4 Articles On Appropriate Sentencing in the Criminal Code – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree – late February 2012

In England, Justice, Law, Prison on January 25, 2012 at 6:14 pm


Was it REALLY worth it? – by Rob Cooper – 2nd September 2011

Doctor’s daughter who looted Poundland for a bottle of Lucozade is jailed for 8 months A doctor’s daughter who stole a bottle of Lucozade and some sweets from Poundland during last months riots has been jailed for eight months, The 17-year-old also helped herself to t-shirts and sunglasses from a nearby store as violence broke out in Peckham, south London. She claimed she had only gone to see what was going on but took the items from two ransacked shops as she got drawn in to the disorder. Riots: The teenage looter, who cannot be identified, flees from the Poundland store in Peckham, south London The teenager, who cannot be named, handed herself in to police after a neighbour spotted her in a picture. She went to the police station with her father, who is a doctor, and her mother, a nurse, and confessed to the crime. The court heard she was a ‘quiet and intelligent’ and regularly attended a church group.

Prosecutor Bridgeen McKeague told Camberwell Youth Court today that that the girl had become caught up in the disorder. She said: ‘There was a picture in a newspaper of the defendant coming out of Poundland. She was then arrested, also for burglary at Blue Inc on Rye Lane. ‘She was seen on CCTV coming out with numerous items of clothing.’ Jailed: The 17-year-old was given eight months behind bars after stealing Lucozade and a number of other items ‘She stated that she had gone to the Peckham area with friends, she wanted to see the riots. ‘When she got there she went into various stores. She went into Poundland and stole numerous items of confectionery. ‘She confessed she did this. Her reason was because everyone did this. She is of previous good character.’ Her defence solicitor Abigail Pavitt said she had no intention of getting involved in disorder but was drawn in. ‘When she got back (home) and realised what she had done she was shocked. The only items which she took were the sweets she had in her pocket. ‘It is out of character for her. It is not how she has behaved in the past or will behave in the future.’ District Judge Tan Ikram gave the teenager a four month detention and training order for raiding poundland and a further four months for stealing from Blue Inc.

The two sentences will run consecutively. The judge said: ‘Peckham was one of the areas which was affected very seriously by public disorder. There was a complete breakdown of law and order. ‘People came onto the street – there was major civil disturbance, large scale looting and large scale damage. ‘There was loss of livelihood, major financial loss and great fear was caused to the general public. ‘The defendant says she wanted to go to see the riots. Many of the defendants I am dealing with at this court are of good character. They come from good families.’ He added: ‘This young lady wanted to see the riots. Most young people did not cause any problems. Most people stayed away. ‘This young lady knew what she did was wrong. She knew that you can’t go into premises that have been broken into by others and help herself – I have no doubt about that. ‘Even the monetary value of these items in my judgement does not reflect the harm that she has caused.’ She had earlier pleaded guilty to two counts of burglary.

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Get her to reimburse 1 bottle more than she stole (i.e. 100% – see if any banksters dare to steal billions) then attend a good citizenship seminar that addresses people who did petty theft. It is not a money problem, it is a behaviour issue in a situation she was not prepared for by the education (maybe add a section that when during a riot do not steal stuff). She did not imprison anyone. This sentence only enriches the prison contractor system AGAIN. She’s not such a bad sort, just drop the jail term and let her go with a warning as it was a first offence and in extraordinary circumstances (i.e. during riot) where her moral judgment was impaired by the chaos around her. Entitling as ‘was it worth it’, makes Rob Cooper seem supportive of the sentence somehow? It is not worth it to the taxpayers, and not fair to imprison 8 months for such a petty sum which should be settled at an equitable 2 times penalty as exampled above. 3 World countries are always enriching cronies. This method using the prison system is rampant in England.


Teenager lured girls into house to be raped by Asian gang jailed 7 years – by Rob Cooper – 2nd September 2011

Stephanie Knight, pictured outside court at an earlier hearing, was jailed for seven years after being found guilty of conspiracy to rape lured two 16-year-old girls on a night out to be raped by an Asian gang has been jailed for seven years. Stephanie Knight, who was 17 at the time, told her victims that they were going out to a nightclub. But instead they were driven round to a house where they were plied with alcohol and drugs before being sexually assaulted by brothers Amjad Hussain, 34, and Shahid Hussain, 38, and their cousin Tanveer Butt, 39. The girls, who cannot be named for legal reasons, were taken from Blackburn, Lancashire, to a derelict terraced property in Accrington with no electricity as one of the girls was subjected to a ‘terrifying ordeal’ of oral, vaginal and anal rape. Knight, 19, wanted the other teenager to perform oral sex on one of the men but she refused. She and Butt then stopped her from going to help her friend as she cried out while she was being raped. Knight said the victim was ‘chilling with my boys’. The Asian gang are the latest in a long line of groups who have targeted vulnerable teenagers across Britain. The two victims were later orally raped by Amjad Hussain, Knight’s ex-boyfriend, as they were driven home following the attack in December 2009.

All three male defendants were jailed indefinitely at Preston Crown Court and ordered to serve at least seven-and-a-half years before they can be considered for parole. Knight, who had been in local authority care since the age of 11, told a jury she first met Amjad Hussain six months before the incident when he pulled up in his car by her in the street and asked for her mobile number. They went on to have a sexual relationship and she said she later fell in love with him. In the months that followed, he persuaded her to perform oral sex on the other two defendants, she said. It emerged during her trial that she was currently being supported by Engage, a multi-agency initiative set up to tackle child sex exploitation in Blackburn. In mitigation, Knight was described as a ‘victim’ who claimed she had previously been raped herself in a separate incident. Judge Beverley Lunt told the 19-year-old she played a ‘vital part’ in the conspiracy as she ordered her to spend seven years in a young offenders’ institute. ‘It is clear you have had a difficult life so far. There is no doubt you have distorted views of morality and appropriate behaviour,’ the judge said. Jailed indefinitely are Tanveer Butt, Amjad Hussain and Shahid Hussain were told they must serve at least seven-and-a-half years before they are considered for parole ‘There is no question that you were badly used by these men. You knew what they were like and what their interests were and yet you lured the girls into their clutches. ‘But for you, neither girl would have been exposed to the danger on the night and subjected to the humiliating rapes.

‘You played a vital part in this conspiracy and knew what you were doing.’ Knight, from Rawtenstall, Amjad Hussain, from Accrington, and married father-of-four Butt, from Rochdale, were all convicted of conspiracy to rape. Knight and Butt were also found guilty of aiding and abetting rape while Amjad Hussain, Shahid Hussain, of Rochdale, and Butt were all found guilty of rape. All four defendants denied the offences. Convicted: Amjad Hussain, his brother Shahid and Tanveer Butt protested their innocence but were found guilty of their parts in the girls’ horrific ordeal

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Get some (equally Asian) masked volunteers to rape Stephanie Knight back the same way with the victims facing away and with earplugs and clear intent for her to regain what she has lost (she wasn’t a virgin was she? then get virgin male volunteers to do the raping) – this is the equitably best way to do give justice and ‘spiritually’ restore her, then close the case and let everyone go back to their own business. Punishment equal and fair all over in an hour at most. Who wants to pay 7 years of prison lodging and food? This is how England or the First World bankrupts itself. Stephanie didn’t cause someone to be imprisoned, she caused someone to be raped. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, gang rape for gang rape. As for the boys, they could have been raped back in some similar sentence with equally unpleasant people carrying out the punishment too instead of burdening taxpayers while enriching the prison system.


A 19-year-old New York man faces up to five years in prison after federal authorities arrested him on Tuesday for allegedly streaming live copyrighted sporting events over the Internet. The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) announced that Mohamed Ali was taken into custody at his home and charged with one count of criminal infringement of a copyright. “Today’s arrest sends a clear message to website operators who mistakenly believe it’s worth the risk to take copyrighted programming and portray it as their own,” ICE Director John Morton said in a statement. “Protecting legitimate business interests are a priority for HSI, the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center and our law enforcement partners.
We are dedicated to protecting the jobs, the income and the tax revenue that disappear when organized criminals traffic in stolen content for their own profit.” Ali was the operator of site that provided online access to telecasts of sporting events and pay-per-view events, such as the World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), Ultimate Fighting Championship and (UFC) and boxing events. The website did not host the pirated content. Rather, it embedded video displays whose content was running on a stream from another website. The two domain names associated with the site, HQ-STREAMS.COM and HQ-STREAMS.NET, were seized by ICE in February as part of “Operation in Our Sites,” an ongoing investigation into websites that illegally offer copyrighted material. Ali made more than $6,000 in profits from February 2010 to January 2011, according to ICE. Another man from New York, Brian McCarthy, was arrested in March and charged with criminal copyright infringement. He was the owner of The advocacy group Demand Progress called the arrest a “shocking overreach.” While the criminal complaint alleges that McCarthy did engage in the “reproduction and distribution” of copyrighted material, it is never clear that he actually reproduced any of the specified broadcasts. “Under that sort of thinking, everyone who’s sent around a link to a copyrighted YouTube video is a criminal,” Demand Progress warned, calling the prosecution a “radical shift” in the way the government polices the Internet.
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*Make* the offender work at or consult with related experts on the correct side of the computer industry at appropriate places (non-intelligence sensitive anti-hacking software design labs for example) for free, to instil in him the reasons why illegal streaming should not be done and how to appreciate the work the industry does. Fine and jail again are meaningless. Telecoms rather than the consumer should pay the producers incidentally, as without content, no people would bother to use internet streaming services. This is a victimless crime if the above suggestion can be implemented.
A Monterey Park yogurt shop owner is facing kidnapping and attempted murder charges for abducting a female employee and keeping her inside a box in a soundproof room, prosecutors said Friday. Robert Yachen Lee alleged lured the employee to a storage room above O My Yogurt on south Atlantic Boulevard early Wednesday, knocked her unconscious and then — after removing her clothing and dressing her in an adult diaper — placed her in a box, authorities said. The victim told authorities that when she came to, she was bound with tape and had a collar around her neck. Prosecutors believe Lee planned the kidnapping, because the storage room had recently been soundproofed. The woman was able to free herself and escape to a nearby optometrist’s office, where she alerted police. Lee appeared briefly in Alhambra Superior Court on Friday afternoon. Bail was set at $10 million.
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This is a childish or fetish inspired action. What he needed was to pay an escort or some such their fee and be done with it. A stint at psyche counselling centre overseeing the same, an apology to the girl and her family, and don’t involve the courts will solve THIS problem. Make sure he learns to enjoy his fantasies with consensual people or fetish workers. Make sure the counselor makes sure that he hires an escort to play those out for him when he needs to. Save the taxpayer money, save the courts time, and show some maturity as a society and community. What he needed was a plan of action that society normalises for this. Simple solution. In fact the media should not even publish his photo like this (at most a general likeness/pencil sketching for the media) as it will make life in his community impossible after whatever counselling he receives, and then being knocked out in turn should the victim demand it. His attack against the girl occured in private and was known to none but him and her.
But putting him under scrutiny of the public punishes him far beyond the scope of what he had dished out. 100s or 1000s may revile him, while his act only humiliated one person. At most the family of the victim could be present in whatever similarly retaliative action, and even then should the woman choose if anyone closest to her (and nobody else). This stigma effectively destroys him and makes it impossible to grow as he will be countering 100s or 1000s of ‘enemies’ for as long as he is not strong enough. This is like kicking a person when their down. This is unjust and will suffer retaliation in some form or other and thus the cycle of viciousness worsens by the hand of the judge and society’s inability to think for itself and grow a conscience.

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