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We’re not Greece, says Barack Obama as US fears grow – by Alex Spillius – 16 Jul 2011

In Democracy, Fat Cats, Law, Plutocracy, Socialism, Wealth distribution on January 28, 2012 at 3:24 pm

President Barack Obama on Friday said only “modest adjustments” were required to overhaul the debt-ridden US economy as he insisted the country was not in the same straits as “Greece or Portugal”. With Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s, two major ratings agencies, threatening to downgrade America’s top credit status, Mr Obama tried to downplay fears about the strength of the world’s largest economy, while issuing warnings to Republicans that time was running out to reach a deal on spending and borrowing. “We are running out of time, that is my main concern, and we simply need to make some tough choices,” said Mr Obama. “But contrary to what people are saying, we are not Greece, we are not Portugal. We have a chance to stabilise America’s finances for a decade or 15 years or 20 years if we’re willing to seize the moment.” Weeks of negotiations with the opposition on spending and borrowing have led to an impasse, with Mr Obama storming out of a meeting with Republicans this week declaring “enough is enough”. He needs to reach an agreement with Congress, which is partly controlled by Republicans, to raise the US government’s $14.3 trillion borrowing limit in order to allow it to continue functioning. Failing to reach a deal by Aug 2 would leave the president with an array of unpleasant options, such as not paying pensioners or war veterans, closing courts or cutting student loans. Ben Bernanke, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, warned that such a failure would be “calamitous”. He said that even if the federal government continued to pay interest to its creditors, principally the Chinese, the inability to make other payments would be a shock to the global financial system. Votes to raise the debt ceiling are usually fairly routine, but with the anti-spending Tea Party Republicans calling the shots, Republicans have insisted that the government commit to cutting the deficit before they agree to more debt. To that end, Mr Obama has agreed to cuts but wants Republicans to compromise by ending some tax breaks for wealthier Americans and corporations, which is anathema to most Republicans. The president insisted the public was on his side in wanting a “balanced approach” that would mix spending cuts and tax increases. “The American people are sold,” he said. “The problem is that members of Congress are dug in ideologically.”

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Even with a debt of 14 trillion as so claimed, USA will still have 2 A’s in it’s rating, AA2 to be exact, supposedly down graded from AAA! Whats with all the As and what is so ‘A’ about a nation with 14 trillion dollar debt? The Malays would say this sort of rating system is a ‘Syok Sendiri Rating’ (Wanker Rating). Any ‘A’ being associated with any nation in debt is absolutely ridiculous. Try the below re-labeling to properly reflect and warn investors or even people migrating. Tell it like it is.

RATINGS AGENCY (i.e. Moody’s, Standard and Poor’s (also commonly called S&P), Fitch, A.M. Best etc..)

AAA 0 debt (foreign and internal) for 10 years

AA 0 debt for 3 years

A+ 0 debt

A 50 million debt

A- 100 million (Malta 200 million)

B+ 500 million (Austria 800 Million)

B 1 billion

B- 10 billion (Bulgaria 35 billion, Estonia 24 billion, Latvia 31 billion, Slovakia 36 billion, Slovenia 40 billion)

C+ 30 billion

C 50 billion (Greece 86 Trillion, Romania 75 billion)

C- 100 billion (Russia at 150 billion, Poland 170 billion, Finland 270 billion)

D+ 300 billion (Argentina 300 billion, Zimbabwe 475 billion)

D 500 billion debt (Denmark 500 billion, Canada 800 billion, Sweden 600)

D- 1 trillion debt (Spain 1 Trillion, France 1.4 Trillion, Germany 1.7 Trillion, Italy 1.8 Trillion, Netherlands 2.3 Trillion)

E+ 3 trillion debt

E 5 Trillion debt

E- 10 Trillion debt (Japan 8 billion, England 10 Trillion, USA at 14 Trillion, European Union considered in whole 18 Trillion)

F 20 Trillion or more (Country dissolved?)

Guess what? The world is filled with economic failures. (*listed debts of above countries circa 2010)

SUGGESTION FOR A ECONOMIC NATIONAL SERVICE BILL Applicable during Economic Emergencies – as in interest accruing debts that will destroy or indebt a nation towards default). This will encourage existing plutocrats (perhaps also the 20 Million asset model which is much better than the unlimited one under Capitilism in link below . . . ) to speak up against policies that collude against or impoverish a nation. National service in the form of requiring the nation’s top :

10 Billionaires (C rating)

100 Billionaires (D rating)

1,000 Richest (E rating)

10,000 Richest (F rating) people to contribute up to 50% of their excess (sequestered and unused or parked in commodity) wealth should be written into law. It beggars belief that while the nation which has fostered and provided that same individual holding a citizenship is allowed to collapse while that ‘citizen’ has wealth sufficient to clear that same debt 100 times over. Think and legislate. Also see the below for issues of equitable wealth distribution :

Utopia – Capitalism with Socialist Caps on Personal Assets – US$20 Million . . .

3 Articles On Structural Problems in USA, Crime, Bad Laws, Geopolitics and Education – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree – 1st February 2012

In Corexit, Education, Fukushima, GMO, Radiation, Russia, Technology, USA, War on January 28, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Obama to give US missile defense secrets to Russians Posted by Matt Lacy • January 10, 2012 • Printer-friendly

Decision comes amidst massive Russian military modernization while US faces upwards of $1 trillion in cuts U.S. SM-3 by Matt Lacy –

Coming on the heels of massive troop drawdowns and massive cuts to the U.S. military, the Obama administration is planning on sharing U.S. missile secrets with the Russians. The military could face cuts of close to $1 trillion in cuts over the next 10 years. Currently the Pentagon is expected to cut $490 billion over the next 10 years, however another $500 billion in cuts could come because of the congressional deal reached last year during the debt ceiling debate.

As part of the cuts, for the first time since World War II, the U.S. will not have the ability to fight on two fronts at the same time. Colorado Congressman Mike Coffman has said he wants the two war posture kept and believes it can be done even with the defense cuts. Coffman is a Marine Corps combat veteran who served in Iraq.

“I’m all for making cuts so long as they don’t compromise our national security.  I’m afraid from what I’ve seen so far of the direction that the Obama administration wants to go, it does just that by signaling to our adversaries that we are incapable of simultaneously fighting two conflicts at the same time.”

On top of the cuts, president Obama has signaled Congress that he is considering sharing U.S. missile defense secrets with the Russians.

During the signing of the controversial Defense Authorization bill into law, Obama issued a signing statement indicating that he felt restrictions aimed at protecting top-secret data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 could impede his foreign policy authority.

The Washington times reported several weeks ago that U.S. officials were planning to provide Moscow with the data from the SM-3. The SM-3 is part of America’s missile defense program that was begun under President Ronald Reagan.

Reagan’s program was ridiculed in the press who called it Star Wars. The plan called for America to develop a missile shield to shoot down incoming nuclear missiles.

The Star Wars program has been credited as the beginning of the end of the Cold War as Moscow realized they could not keep up with American know-how.

Security officials have expressed concern that the technical data provided to the Russians could compromise the system’s effectiveness and allow Russian technicians to counter the missile. The SM-3 is considered to be some of the most highly effective missile interceptors in the U.S. inventory.

The proposal to share our top secret technology while we are facing upwards of $1 trillion in defense cuts comes at a time when the Russians are doing the exact opposite.

DefenseTech has revealed that Russia is currently in the process of a 10 year, $640 billion military modernization.

The modernization will include 600 new aircraft, 1000 new choppers and an additional 100 vessels added to the Russian Navy including 20 submarines.

Section 1227 of the Defense Authorization bill prohibits spending any funds that will be used to give Russian leaders access to our top-secret missile defense technology as part of any agreement until Congress is sent a report identifying the secrets to be shared, steps to protect the data from being compromised and how the secrets will be used.

Additionally, the president must certify to Congress that the technology will not be shared by the Russians to any other countries.

During the signing ceremony, Obama indicated he did not feel bound by the requirements of section 1227, saying while he intends to keep Congress informed, he also intends to implement the section “in a manner that does not interfere with the president’s constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs and avoids the undue disclosure of sensitive diplomatic communications.”

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Pre-emptive appeasement. In case an Iran-USA war flares up, Russia has it’s word of honour to lose as well if it hits the USA. National pride in the eyes of all winners and survivors will have a bitter taste if the USA fell only because Russia broke it’s word by striking when they were fighting. With this tech transfer, Russia probably has promised not to attack USA if Iran is attacked. Don’t worry the WH is on the problem, no Mad Max, Waterworld scenario yet, though that BP and Corexit spill along with Fukushima type radiation could lead to ‘Predator (1987 John McTiernan) Mandibled’ Whales and gills on horny ‘Mutos’.


Once upon a time, cheating was something only pupils did. They would secretly take notes into their exams, copy each other’s homework and get a little too much help from their parents while doing their coursework. But over the last twenty years, cheating has spread. Now the teachers cheat too. In fact, I would argue that so much “cheating” goes on that the teachers themselves don’t even realize they’re doing it. Kingsdale School in Southwark has been fingered by whistleblowers who say that teachers unfairly helped pupils with GCSE and AS-level exams and coursework. The school has been rated “outstanding” by Ofsted and David Cameron said it was “brilliant”. Certainly the word on the street is that Kingsdale is an excellent school. It was once a place where security guards with dogs roamed, but the Head, Steve Morrison, turned the place around. Parents are keen to get their children into the school and children are proud to go there. Whistleblowers say that marks for non-existent coursework were sent to the exam boards. The coursework system works like this:
i) teacher collects in the work and marks it
ii) teachers in the department moderate the coursework by sample marking the work of others
iii) all marks are sent to the board
iv) the board asks to see a sample of the coursework, and if the marks on these few pieces are accurate, all of the teachers’ marks are approved.
It is a good system. While it respects the teacher enough to trust him to submit proper marks and to have followed the rules, it is able to ensure that teachers who are not skilled at marking accurately get the required support. But without the certainty of teachers’ professionalism, the system falls apart. One can see how a teacher, under pressure to get in all of his coursework, with kids who are lazy and refuse to do it, simply makes up a mark that he thinks the kid is likely to get and then submits it, with the intention of getting the coursework from the child at a later date. Kingsdale is also accused of allowing pupils to correct their exam papers after the exam had finished. It is also alleged that pupils who were late to their exams were not quarantined and were in fact allowed to sit the exams after other pupils had finished. Apparently, teachers would go to a pupil’s home if they did not turn up for an exam and would let them sit the exam there instead of at school. Who knows how much of this is true. But it is clear that teachers all over the nation are under so much pressure to produce results that a culture of cheating has taken hold of our schools. I have known countless teachers go to great lengths to “help” pupils with their work.
The problem always lies in knowing where the line should be drawn. I remember once taking a boy into my office, sitting him down with a pen and paper, demanding he write something for his coursework, knowing that by just forcing a few lines out of him, his chances of a C would be possible, but without those lines a C was out of our grasp. When he begged me to tell him what to say, I refused. I could easily have hinted at what he should say. But I didn’t. I wasn’t about to “cheat”. But did I? Once upon a time, quite simply, the deadline would have been set, he would have missed it, and he would have failed. That experience would have taught him that in life, without effort, one fails. And the next time he may have behaved differently. As it is, that boy wrote some 6 or 7 lines and managed to get a few marks more than he would have done otherwise. In the end, he missed a C grade by one mark – just one.
And to this day, I blame myself for that miss: I always think to myself, if only I had insisted on 8 lines instead of 7, he would have got that C… That’s our system. The teacher is responsible for the grades and the teacher is judged by them. This leaves the pupil without any responsibility for himself, and it has our system in tatters, where teachers are actually sent on courses that tell them how to bend the rules of the exam board in order to maximise exam results. Children no longer take deadlines seriously, and “help” has come to mean something entirely different. It’s easy to point the finger at Kingsdale. But in doing so, we’re missing the bigger picture. (Katharine Birbalsingh is the teacher who exposed the failings of the comprehensive school system at the Conservative Party conference last year. Katharine has been teaching in inner London for over a decade and plans to set up a Free School in south London to help to serve underprivileged children. Her book, To Miss with Love, is out now.
Follow @Miss_Snuffy on Twitter to see what Katharine’s doing now. Katharine’s personal website is
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Just one of the symptoms of collusion from the ‘Feminist Agenda’ of NWO control and, an unethical promoting a poisonous oestrogen drenched environment rather than the ethics exuded from a testosterone drenched natural one. Yang = Structure and Ethics, Yin = Filler and Flavour. If you reverse that or miss out either ingredient, all the results would be chaos. In general only societies that function without an agenda are the only ones that will evolve and grow. the rest will stagnate and fall apart – try USA and it’s Sudra caste/military/plutocrat dominated zeitgeist. No future and no wonder, it’s Nero and his violin while the ‘West’ or Capitalist nations burn.
15 Examples That Show Many Americans Have Become So Desperate That They Will Do Just About Anything For Money
More Americans than ever are desperate for money and many of them will do just about anything to get it.  The crumbling U.S. economy has pushed millions of ordinary Americans to the brink of utter desperation.  When it comes time to choose between being able to survive or breaking the law, many people are choosing to break the law.  These days it seems like Americans will do just about anything for money.  All over the country, there are areas where just about anything that is not bolted down is being stolen.  A lot of people have resorted to making money however they can – selling drugs, selling their bodies, shoplifting, invading homes, taking bribes, running credit card scams and even stealing from their own family members.  You will have a hard time believing some of the things that you are about to read below.  When people have their backs pushed up against the wall, often they find that they are willing to do things that they never imagined that they would do.  Things are getting crazy out there on the streets of America, and as the economy continues to decline things are going to get a lot crazier.The following are 15 examples that show many Americans have become so desperate that they will do just about anything for money….

#1 In Utah, one unemployed 28 year old man is offering to be “human prey” for hunters for the bargain price of $10,000.  For an additional $2,000, he will let people hunt him down while he is running around naked.

#2 The Huffington Post is reporting that there has been an epidemic of air conditioning thefts all over the United States….

Across the country, in states like Illinois, Texas, Arizona, Georgia and Florida, there have been reports of thieves stealing unsecured air conditioning units weighing as much as 125 pounds.

#3 In Corpus Christi, Texas thieves have actually been breaking into funeral homes in order to steal the embalming fluid.

#4 Even police officers are committing desperate acts these days.  Just check out what one police officer in Chicago is charged with doing….

A Chicago Police officer stole $50,000 from his ailing elderly father to pay off his bills and gambling debts and unsuccessfully attempted to swipe his dad’s retirement savings by impersonating him

#5 Nothing is off limits to thieves these days.  Criminals recently broke into a southwest Atlanta beauty supply store and took off with $30,000 in hair extensions.

#6 In another area of Atlanta, thieves have been breaking down walls and busting bathroom fixtures with sledgehammers in order to get their hands on copper, brass and steel….

Kids in two Atlanta communities won’t have their neighborhood pools to help beat the summer heat, at least for now. Thieves used what is believed to be sledge hammers to bust walls and break fixtures in bathrooms at Adams and South Bend parks to steal copper, brass and steel.

#7 One grandmother in Florida has been accused of trying to sell her newborn grandson for $75,000.

#8 In Antioch, California a total of approximately 300 power poles were recently knocked down by thieves and stripped of their copper wiring.

#9 In Minnesota recently, a mob of teen girls brutally pummeled a mother and her two daughters until they were black and blue.  Apparently the mob of teen girls was enraged over a pair of missing sunglasses.

#10 In Asheville, North Carolina thieves recently took off with 4 metal tables and 16 metal chairs that were sitting outside a pizzeria.

#11 In Florida, thieves have actually been stealing storm drain covers.

#12 In Oregon, thieves recently broke into a Salvation Army community center and stole 3 large air conditioning units.  Now all the people that come to that facility for help and for community programs this summer will be absolutely sweltering.

#13 In the Cleveland area, two young boys that had set up a lemonade stand were robbed in broad daylight.  The crooks got away with approximately 12 dollars.

#14 In Oklahoma, thieves recently broke into a church and stole “arts and crafts supplies meant to help teach bible stories to children”.

#15 A 59 year old man from North Carolina named Richard James Verone was so desperate for money that he actually robbed a bank and got caught on purpose so that he could be put in prison and be given free health care.

One day Verone walked into an RBC Bank in North Carolina, handed a clerk a note demanding exactly one dollar and sat down and waited for the police to arrive and arrest him. Verone has a growth on his chest and two ruptured disks but he does not have any health insurance.  He is hoping that in prison he will get the medical treatment that he needs.

As society continues to unravel, prison is going to look like an appealing option for more and more people. At least in prison you get fed, you have a roof over your head and they will take care of your medical needs. For a whole lot of Americans, that would be a major step up. Have you noticed that the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted is starting to disappear? America is becoming a cold, cruel place and lawlessness is everywhere.

For ages, Americans have looked down on the crime and the depravity that goes on in other areas of the world. Well, now America has all of the crime and depravity it can handle and it is going to get a lot worse as millions of formerly middle class Americans descend into poverty. A regular commenter on my website who identifies himself as “El Pollo de Oro” recently described the kind of chaos that he believes is coming to the streets of America….

I live in Philadelphia, a city that used to have a ton of blue-collar manufacturing jobs as well as a great deal of white-collar employment, but the blue-collar manufacturing jobs have disappeared–and on the white-collar side, a college degree isn’t necessarily the ticket to prosperity it once was. Philly has its share of nasty, dangerous ghetto areas as well as ritzy, upscale areas like Rittenhouse Square. But then, there are parts of Mexico City that look like Beverly Hills except that the signs are en español. A minority of Chilangos are filthy rich, which is what you expect in a Third World country: an uber-rich minority and a poor majority. And when The Banana Republic of America (formerly the USA) signed on for globalism and ignored Ross Perot’s warning, it opted to become a Third World country—which means that you can kiss the American middle class goodbye.

But there will be some growth industries in The Banana Republic of America: kidnapping, drug smuggling, murder for hire, carjacking, armed robbery. And if you want a taste of what life will be like in American cities in the future, just spend a few weeks in Guatemala City, Johannesburg or Caracas—all of which have the type of horrible crime rates that BRA cities can look forward to in the future. Desperate people do desperate things, and hardcore desperation will be in the norm in the BRA. It won’t be fun (unless, of course, being robbed at gunpoint in broad daylight is one’s idea of a good time).

Welcome to life in a rotting, decaying Third World hellhole. Welcome to the collapse of the Roman Empire. Welcome to life in The Banana Republic of America, formerly the USA. America is changing.  The safe, secure environment that we all used to take for granted is dying.  The number of truly desperate people rises by the day, and many of those desperate people are willing to do just about anything for money. The United States used to have a thriving middle class, but our economic system has been so manipulated over the decades that now almost all of the economic rewards go to the very top of the food chain. 25 years ago, the wealthiest 12 percent of all Americans controlled 33 percent of all the wealth.  Today, the wealthiest 1 percent of all Americans control 40 percent of all the wealth. In the United States today, we are actually witnessing the death of the middle class.  Our jobs have been shipped overseas, the banks have enslaved us to debt, the government keeps finding more ways to tax us and the Federal Reserve keeps debasing our currency. Everywhere you go, despair is in the air.  According to a brand new Reuters/Ipsos poll, 63 percent of Americans believe that the nation is on the wrong track. Fortunately, many Americans are responding to these signs of trouble by preparing.

One local Oklahoma newspaper recently did an article that profiled a few of the growing number of Americans that are preparing for hard times….

Rod and Lauretta Smith estimate they could survive a year without going to the grocery store. A large garden on their 5-acre property in south Tulsa produces hundreds of quarts of canned and frozen beans, tomatoes and other vegetables. Chickens provide eggs. The Smiths are among a small but growing number of people stocking up on food to become more self-reliant in a time marked by natural disasters and economic uncertainty.

The truth is that all of us should try to become less dependent on the system.  The Democrats, the Republicans, the Federal Reserve and the big corporations are not there to help you.  They are not going to come riding to the rescue if you lose your job and your home.

We all need to do what we can to become more independent and to prepare ourselves and our families for the incredibly difficult economic times that are inevitably coming.  Those that have faith that their jobs will always be there or that the government will always take care of them will be deeply disappointed.

The system is dying and society is coming apart.

The only rational thing to do is to prepare for what is coming.

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Here’s a solution that will not need a single cent.

Offer each person on food stamps or ‘council housing’ (not working or homeless), land for subsistence farming and make them live in a tent. Very Soviet era-esque, but when American citizens begin herding their own animals, composting rather than buying fertilisers, burning firewood rather than using electrical heaters and begin growing their own food, collecting rainwater/digging wells, weaving cloth for making their own clothes from home grown cotton, ALL FOR FREE, USA will finally be rid of the debt caused by sequestration of land by the state and dependence on food stamps or funding of state funded homeless shelters (See below link on this group as well for homelessness solutions . . . ).

Is Ending Homelessness Just a Dream? – Joel John Roberts – 13th June 2011

As for education. Education does not need a millions worth elementary school, 10s millions worth high school, 10s billions worth University, do it like they did in the past – in a Warehouse-Barn and do not allow ‘Professor’ to charge exhorbitant fees (i.e. no more than allows him to retire in comfort or with some dignity, not extreme wealth) simply because he groups up with other Professor’s and calls a bunch of buildings a University.

Ditch those cars and vehicles, use draft animals which can also be eaten. Or use bicycles as in China, with ‘sidecar’ attachments if carrying goods. No more spending on fuel. You want to get there, you jolly well PEDDLE with your own legs (than charge fuel costs to the taxpayer if you’re in government).

The other thing of course would be to END ALL EXPENSIVE WARS and shut down all WMD silos of any and every type. How much does a silo or nuke cost to maintain yearly? How many nukes does USA have that it may NEVER use? All just to enrich military contractors.

Whos up for life in 1800s America? Better than post millenial decay as we see now for certain while USA indulges in wars without end.

For everyone else with some assets, liquidate EVERYTHING excess you have in fiat for precious metals, buy land to cultivate your own food, do not fuel ANY ‘Suit or Electricity using Industries’ and live like a Hillbilly. Grow biofuel crops for your electricity, grow your own cotton, get the wife to learn to use the loom, dump the car for a donkey or bullock and cart (no more road tax!), live in a Yurt made from your own skinned domestic animals instead of paying for construction, make your own beer, wine and yoghurt. Burn dung and firewood for warmth.

If enough people do all of this,the  ‘duopolist bilderberg stooge potus’ and government itself is finished. We will be out own militia, so army guys don’t worry about invasions, but do distribute those weapons. Ordinary folk should buy some gunz and bibles (or whatever religious text or kama sutra . . .).

And finally remember to vote ONLY for the POOREST candidate on the list. In the event every candidate is rich, then it is your duty to run for candidacy as a non-plutocrat.

31 U.S. troops, 7 Afghans killed in Taliban attack – By Laura King, Los Angeles Times – 6th August 2011

In Uncategorized on January 28, 2012 at 3:02 pm
In a rare event, Taliban insurgents shoot down a Chinook helicopter with a rocket-propelled grenade near Kabul. It’s the largest single-incident loss of military lives since the war’s start. Soldiers take positions after racing off the back of a Chinook helicopter in November 2008. A Chinook went down Saturday in the Sayedabad district of Wardak province. (David Furst, AFP/Getty Images / August 6, 2011) Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan— Taliban insurgents shot down a U.S. Chinook helicopter early Saturday, killing 31 American troops and seven Afghans aboard, American and Afghan officials said. It was the war’s greatest single-incident loss of military lives. UPDATE WASHINGTON – AP sources: Majority of those killed in helicopter crash were from Navy SEAL Team 6.
The rare downing of an American military aircraft, in a province on the doorstep of Afghanistan’s capital, Kabul, represented a blow to Western efforts to establish calm as the United States and its allies begin drawing down forces in Afghanistan. NATO’s International Security Assistance Force, or ISAF, confirmed in a terse statement that a helicopter crash had occurred and acknowledged insurgent activity in the area at the time. A Western military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the twin-rotor CH-47 helicopter had apparently been brought down by a rocket-propelled grenade moments after takeoff, when it was most vulnerable to attack. President Hamid Karzai, in a condolence statement, identified the slain Americans as special operations forces. Sensitive to operational secrecy, special forces commanders as a rule are slower than other branches to publicly acknowledge combat casualties. That would account for the military’s near-silence on the incident a full 18 hours after it occurred. The helicopter went down shortly after midnight Afghan time in the Sayedabad district of Wardak province, west of the capital, Kabul, according to Shahidullah Shahid, a spokesman for the provincial governor. He and other provincial officials said the crash came after a firefight that had left eight insurgents dead. The NATO force said recovery efforts were underway, and Afghan officials said the crash site had been cordoned off. The statement from Karzai’s office offered condolences to President Obama and the families of the Afghan troops who died. Downings of Western helicopters by hostile fire have been relatively rare in the Afghan conflict, though insurgents do occasionally manage to shoot down a chopper, including one such incident in 2005 that killed 16 Americans. Far more helicopters are lost to mechanical problems or bad weather. The Taliban claimed its fighters had ambushed Western troops after being tipped off to an imminent night raid in the district. The crash site is located in Wardak’s Tangi valley, where the insurgents are extremely active.
The Wardak police chief, Gen. Abdul Qayuum Baqizoi, said the American strike was aimed at a meeting of insurgent figures in the district, which is considered a perilous one. “This area isn’t even safe for security forces to travel in,” he said. The Taliban statement, from spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid, was unusually specific in some of its details, and confirmed the “martyrdom” of eight Taliban fighters in what was described as fierce combat before the shooting down of the helicopter. Targeted nighttime strikes, often carried out by U.S. special-operations forces, have been the single most successful tactic employed by the Western military over the last two years, significantly damaging the field-command structure of the Taliban and other insurgent groups. But night raids are a major point of contention between the Western military and the Afghan government. Karzai has called repeatedly for a halt to the operations, saying they pose an undue danger to Afghan civilians.
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Preplanned murder? Military personnel should be cautious of the great ancient skills applied like so many bad habits (like fengshui and vasthu) from Asia upon your supposedly neutral American policy spaces. These 31 soldiers were to be ‘culled’ right from the day they were recruited to the day they died. That is why (if you consider the non-Joe public or plutocrat dominated Congress) the USA has to have a war or other going on at all times and will continue to do so. On pretense of a war to kill the most righteous citizens. The army acts as an entry point for the slaughter house of war torn areas. It is not a war you fight, but a false flag and abuse of other nations to have an excuse to kill the martial and ‘testosterone righteous’ among you. The Columbines or amokers among citizens are all martial/Spartan persons.
The testosterone disallows ethics as in the article below :
Testerone Equals To Ethics
Hence the corrupted in society need to murder them. Hence the dumping of feminizing chemicals into food and all parts of the ecosystem. Soldiers, especially ‘unwanted/burden-on-society’ injured veterans, protect your own and do your own vasthu or fenghshui or astrology readings of your fellow soldiers. The weak or afflicted are to be cautioned against, some collude from far above, their careers already pre-planned, to the ultimate destruction of the USA and trheir enrichment and empowerment of course. It has been 3 generations since 1917, better wake up Americans your children are being manipulated into being sent to your deaths in wrongful wars because they are afraid they’d do something right by the country you and your children love. An ethical man is a dangerous man. There are alot of jealous and hateful or ethically corrupted people in army, political/civil society (just look at the Church Hierarchy) and anywhere at work that cannot stand their genetic or social superiors, or fear them. Those friendly firing troops, just like the local political situation I experienced, are a symptom of the insanity that continues apartheid, wars and ‘accidental’ murders, a police state posing as a democracy – far worse in the 3rd world but in a fashion that makesw them nobn-obvious UNTIL one lives or visits long enough for them to show their true ugly side. I’d ask all the people here to be aware of the Neurotech as well, Stellite phone tech adopyed to affect minds.
And to study Pat Tillman’s friendly fire case, the death was on purpose (humanity is too psychically aware – or suppressive to allow for such a mistake – unless soldiers are on drugs when in the battlefield? Who knows what experimental stuff they slip into those MREs . . . Strongly wonder if the helicopter was also another pre-planned accident to remove the most ethical and thus dangerous to the scum in the US military. Suspect that your wars are only to murder specific Americans. The real patriots who would if given a chance write laws and policies that aid the people of the world rather tha enrich the military-industrial complex and the plutocratic oligarchs and nepotistrs in Congress.
What do we do then? To end this horror that calls itself government? If you vote, ONLY vote along the below criteria, for Joe Publics who are worth no more than 200K, see the pledge/questionairre below :
Makes characters like Stranix in Under Siege 1 look like heroes or maligned and understood does this not? Some of us would know how that feels . . . I really hope USA has not become like that, but one look at Abu Gharaib and that pile of Muslims . . . that woman should be employed as a dominatrix in some BDSM outfit, not the army, and in Vietnam War (1959-1975 – real life) they collected ears, just like in Universal Soldier (1992 fictional), with Grindhouse (2007 fictional) taking the cake – collecting testicles even . . . did you guys have to do that to Bruce Willis and Quentin Tarantino in that film??? Damn. Rose McGowan’s Chery Darling character rocks! All new theme for the Strip Bars though prolly with blanks not live ammo . . . meanwhile USA is one war with Iran (by proxy any others just itching to get back at USA) short of becoming Mad Max or Waterworld . . .

Future of war: Private robot armies fight it out – by Greg Lindsay – early August 2011

In Abuse of Power, Conscription, Democracy, Forced Conscription, Forced Military Conscription, Mercenaries, Military Contractors, PAP, social freedoms, War on January 28, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Technology opens way for unlimited algorithm-run clashes of DIY terminators If robots are simply computers with wings (and missiles), then expect to see future wars fought by the descendants of flash-trading algorithms, with humans as anxious bystanders, one scholar says. Last month, NATO’s commanders in Libya went with caps-in-hand to the Pentagon to ask for reconnaissance help in the form of more Predator drones. “It’s getting more difficult to find stuff to blow up,” a senior NATO officer complained to The Los Angeles Times. The Libyan rebels’ envoy in Washington had already made a similar request. “We can’t get rid of (Moammar Gadhafi) by throwing eggs at him,” the envoy told the newspaper.

The Pentagon told both camps it would think about it, citing the need for drones in places like Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan, where Predator strikes have killed dozens this month alone. So why doesn’t NATO or the rebels do what Cote d’Ivoire’s Air Force, Mexican police and college student peacekeepers have done — buy, rent or build drones of their own? The development of deadly hardware and software is leading to a democratization of war tech, which could soon mean that every army — private or national — has battalions of automated soldiers at their command.

“Drones are essentially flying — and sometimes armed — computers,” the Brookings Institution noted in a paper published last month. They’re robots that follow the curve of Moore’s Law rather than the Pentagon’s budgets, rapidly evolving in performance since the Predator’s 2002 debut while falling in price to the point where Make magazine recently carried instructions on how to launch your own satellite for $8,000. “You have high school kids competing in robotics competitions with equipment that 10 years ago would have been considered military-grade,” says Peter W. Singer, author of “Wired for War” and a senior fellow at Brookings, who predicts robots on the battlefield will be a paradigm-shifting “revolution in military affairs.” First comes the high-tech arms race with China, Israel and all the other nations competing to build their own drones. Then comes the low-cost trickle-down into low-tech wars like Libya’s, where tomorrow’s rag-tag militias fight with DIY drones.

Finally, if robots are simply computers with wings (and missiles), then expect to see future wars fought by the descendants of flash-trading algorithms, with humans as anxious bystanders. Flattening the battlespace Since the Predator first appeared above Afghanistan nearly a decade ago, the Pentagon’s inventory of drones has risen from less than 50 devices to more than 7,000. But the gap between the U.S. and its closest competitors may actually be shrinking. China, for example, has pinned its military ambitions on 2,000 missiles guided by target data from some two-dozen models of surveillance drones. The worldwide drone market is projected by the Teal Group to be worth $94 billion over the next decade, led by the Pentagon, which has asked Congress for $5 billion for next year’s expenses alone. One reason for the ballooning arms race between anywhere from 44 to 70 nations (depending on which estimate you believe) is self-interest. So far, the Pentagon has refused to share its toys, instituting tight export controls on drones such as the Predator or Reaper, both of which are made by General Atomics. Another is purely financial. An F-22 stealth fighter costs $150 million, roughly 15 times a top-of-the-line Predator. The U.S. military’s blank check of a budget — more than the rest of the world’s combined — means little and less when the cost of drones keeps falling.

But the most important factor may be doctrinal. Unlike the U.S., which is still feeling its way forward with robotic warriors while entrenched generals fight for their tanks and aircraft carriers, small nations with shrinking budgets stand to gain the most from embracing robotic warfare. “There’s no such thing as a first-mover advantage in war,” says Singer. “This technology is different than an aircraft carrier. You don’t need a big military infrastructure to use it, or even to build it. This is more akin to the open source movement in software. You’re flattening the battlespace, and the barriers to entry for other actors is falling.” Predator soars to record number of sorties Master Sgt. Steve Horton / Wikipedia Capt. Richard Koll, left, and Airman 1st Class Mike Eulo perform checks after launching an MQ-1 Predator unmanned aerial vehicle Aug. 7 at Balad Air Base, Iraq. Koll, the pilot, and Eulo, the sensor operator, will handle the Predator in a radius of about 25 miles around the base before handing it off to personnel in the United States to continue its mission. Both are assigned to the 46th Expeditionary Reconnaissance Squadron. Peak arms In 2004, French troops arrived in Cote d’Ivoire to help police a cease-fire in the country’s simmering civil war. Not expecting trouble, they left their air defenses at home. But on Nov. 4, 2004, a pair of Israeli-made Aerostar drones circled their base, reconnoitering targets for the Russian-made jets that bombed them a few hours later, killing nine soldiers and a U.S. aid worker. The drones belonged to an Israeli private military firm hired by Ivorian President Laurent Gbagbo, who claimed (unconvincingly) that the whole thing was an accident.

Hiring drone-bearing mercenaries is easy when you’re a president; what about when you’re a college student? A year later, a trio of Swarthmore students formed the Genocide Intervention Network to help bring attention to Darfur. After raising almost half-a-million dollars in donations, the group solicited a bid from Evergreen International to remotely fly four surveillance drones above Sudan, documenting atrocities. Sadly, the price tag was a cool $22 million a year. (They passed.) Today, they would toss the project on Kickstarter and build their drone using Arduino modules developed by hobbyist sites such as DIY Drones.

In a recent essay, the consultant and futurist Scott Smith noted that both the “maker” movement and the Libyan rebels desperately hacking together weaponry are drawing on the same open source knowledge base. Or for that matter, so are the Mexican drug cartels assembling their own tanks and submarines. “We’ve come to a point where you put together a parallel system to the U.S. Department of Defense,” says Smith. And also to the point where the DoD is soliciting the hobbyists themselves to be the next generation of weapon designers via DARPA’s crowdsourcing effort, UAVForge.

“If I were at a major arms contractor, I would be worried about being disrupted,” Smith says. He wonders if the world is headed toward “peak arms,” in which open source, distributed, low-cost tools fatally undermine big-ticket weapons sales in all but a few cases (most of them involving the Strait of Taiwan). And that goes double for non-state actors, e.g. roll-your-own NGOs and drug cartels. “The era of large scale, run-and-gun DIY micro-warfare is just around the corner,” Smith concludes. The robot wars The trajectory of drones and warbots is the same as computing in general — smaller, cheaper, more ubiquitous. In February, AeroVironment unveiled the prototype of a hummingbird-sized drone that can perch on a windowsill can peer in. Insect-size is next. But the shift from a single pair of eyes in the sky to a swarm of bots would create havoc with U.S. military doctrine, which requires having a human operator at all times, or a “man in the loop.”

This is one reason why the Air Force is training more remote pilots this year (some 350) than bomber and fighter pilots combined. Then again, that’s not nearly enough for 7,000 drones, let alone 7 million, all of which would have the intelligence to fight or fly on their own, with faster-than-human response times. That’s why the definition of “in the loop” is blurring from direct human control “to a veto power we’re unwilling to use,” says Singer. In the case of missile defense systems already in use, “you can turn it on or off,” but you can’t pick and choose which bogeys to shoot. “The speed and complexity is such that the human interface has to be minimized to be effective,” he adds, which suggests the generals in “WarGames” were right all along. Or were they? Releasing increasingly autonomous warbots into the wild will demand new algorithms to command them, raising the specter of a “flash crash” on the battlefield as opposing algorithms clash and chase each other’s tails. Or what if hackers were to assemble a botnet for real: an army of machines ready to do their bidding? Perhaps a decade from now, there will be no “cyber war.” There will only be war.

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That is why infantry is outdated and Military Conscriptions especially FORCED Military conscriptions backed by fines or jail terms amount to nothing more than brainwashing (see Singapore for an example where conscientious objectors and self determinism is ignored JUNTA style). Automated jobs for jar heads. Shoot your own enemies in your own wars yourselves or build robots, don’t make us into robots. The part about launching own satellites is intriguing. Any retired or altruistic techs with the know how ready to launch an open source free cell phone service? The fees are too heavy and obviously enriching to the satellite telco companies. Time for a ” Communications Revolution ” against the tyranny of the telecoms plutocrats? ‘Guerilla’ TV stations based on Seasteading as a solution as well?

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Excepts from @AgreeToDisagree and FB Commentators @Jun Lee, @Justin Ong and @Simon Hung – reposted late Feb 2012

Mind Sets / Exchange On Defense Issues

Justin Ong
can i just be honest here. don’t you think you guys are being a little bit sissy? it’s just two years. i did it too, it wasn’t even anything close to being bad. i had fun, met great people, learnt many life skills from people who honestly love this country enough to dedicate their lives to her. i respected that, and i believe you should too. i’m not saying you all have to like the service like i did, but understand that everything exist for a reason and we all can’t expect all of you the understand it.
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Simon Hung
The cause we are fighting for is ‘human rights’. Admittedly, there are many people who scorn NS because they are scared of it or couldn’t face the challenge; however, there are also those who do not wish to serve NS (National Conscription Service – with no abstention option for citizens) for a multitude of other…See More
December 31, 2011 at 11:37pm · Unlike · 2

Marah Freedom
If abstentions are a part of NS, then could you dare someone to join NS and claim they were sissy if they did not join. But so long as there is no option, it is sissy to join without demanding that abstention option. Also even with abstentions, some of us would prefer a private training course with VIP treatment and REAL veterans from the USA. XE holds ‘Merc’ courses in SA, that sort of free form anime style mercenary band thing with long haired bandanna fist fights, would be much cooler that shaven heads and GAYNESS of uniforms. Given a choice anyone would choose joining a merc band than NS. But those with no choice can only refuse to serve and sit in jail to prove their point out of courageousness. It is sissy to toe the line you sissy.
January 2 at 2:44am · Like · 1

Jun Lee So what if biological guys are sissy? You wouldn’t say that to a biologically born female who refuses to serve the military by choice. Our male-mandatory national slavery is sexism . . I’d rather be a sissy than a disgusting smelly beastly military brute.
Friday at 7:28pm · Like

Justin Ong jun lee. you’re funny. you really are. i’m not even going to discuss your statement with you cause it makes me laugh.
Friday at 8:14pm · Unlike · 1

Jun Lee
?* such is an example of our backward coercive gender-conservative hyper-machismo mindset that all *persons/individuals* born as a male should be thick, hairy and macho and be forced to conform to this silly artificial narrow and totally unnecessary gender-mold/stereotype in this day and age ; that any from of weakness and sign femininity in biologically male-individuals is deserving of mockery, disdain, harassment, insult, bullying, assault, etc. by pigs.
Friday at 8:49pm · Like

Justin Ong so i’m a backward red neck?
Friday at 8:53pm · Like

Jun Lee
Huh? By the definition of “red-neck” , you are not Justin ; . . I wasn’t accusing you of being racist . . but rather, you’re simply being a gender-conservative sexist ; in the sense that you believe that all males should be coerced into thi…See More
Friday at 9:05pm · Like

Justin Ong
and you based all of that just because you seem a bit sensitive when it comes to the word sissy? where by sissy means gay? i am no sexist, nor am i conservative, i don’t even live in singapore because it’s way to concern with norms and rule. i’m not saying you’re gay, but i have heaps of gay friends. enough about me, sorry if i offended you, but what i was trying to say is that it is a short two years. it doesn’t take long, and i know it’s not that bad. i just don’t see why we should make it an issue. accept the things you cannot change, and change the ones you can. simple rule to life.
Friday at 9:22pm · Like · 1

Justin Ong and marah freedom, what are you talking about….
” that sort of free form anime style mercenary band thing with long haired bandanna fist fights, would be much cooler that shaven heads” dude seriously Friday at 9:24pm · Like

Jun Lee
?* Justin, ok that’s your view and I’ll respect that . . 🙂 That’s cool.

* I’m not gay, but rather I experience intense “Gender Dysphoria” ( wiki it if you may ) since very young ; a psychological “Transsexual” ( as recently diagnosed by my psychiatrist ) but who is trying not to “do” anything drastic, and be sensible with concern for my career and future due to how judgmental and conservative Singapore is . .

* Sorry if I came across as over-sensitive ; but I’ve been quietly dealing with such comments thrown at me ( in a negative/insulting/mocking way ) and I tend to “jump” and felt the need to vent all that pent up accumulated frustrations I guess.

* But as you can see why, NS has been a psychological and emotional hell for me ( one that I cannot expressed and have kept silent about at the time of deep self-denial and internalize fears/anxiety ) ; and further its like a double blow since I was struggling with the “negative” effects of puberty at the same time during that age.

* I do personally honestly view NS being only mandatory for males to be rather sexist and unfair though . . especially since how we are so under-appreciated and uncompensated it is . .
Friday at 9:35pm · Like

Justin Ong sorry to hear to that. and, well i don’t want my sisters to go though the army. they will not be able to take it.
Friday at 9:38pm · Like

Jun Lee
Thanks for the respectful/mature responses thus far Justin. 🙂 However, isn’t society moving towards encouraging females to be independent, willful, and strong? If physicality is an issue :: I ( as an individual case ) wasn’t even physically fit to began with, even with all that pushups and exercising, I never gained much mass and remained at 48-52kg ; and I did take the training seriously and never tried to “chao keng” ( in spite of my immense dislike of becoming muscular ~ I feared being “marked” as a chao keng and just did as I was told like a zombie robot as all soldiers are meant to ). Had to redo BMT due to passing out many times. But yet, I still have to go through the training ( carrying weights heavier than myself ) ~ which worsened my back injury. I’ve also seen some females who are physically stronger than I am. Severely overweight guys who “can’t take it” still have to go through military service regardless. While some of the more physically masculine females ( which do exist ) don’t.

Further . . one of the arguments that I’ve previously made was that; if PES D/E biological males still have to serve NS as store-personals / clerks / technicians / nurses / other areas in combat where carrying excessive back-breaking weights isn’t frequently necessary for the fitter females, etc , then why not forcefully conscript PES A/B female-born individuals instead too ?

But more important, which needs to be stressed IMO, is my view that the male-mandatory should be a lot more fairly compensated than that it has; especially looking at the current situation with the difficulties of NS/Reservice-serving locals finding work with competitions from foreign talents. Here’s one such instance articulated on this current state of SG ::

And to note, I’m not currently in SG, nor am I doing re-service, being here in Australia working on my postgrad degree. However I’m just reacting to what I feel is an injustice done onto Singaporeans, especially those who have wasted their youth and sacrificed their studies/careers virtually uncompensated doing their time in NS ( especially towards those who have already served their time in the past ) ; and the displeasure of my personal experience with all that disgusting MCPs whom I’ve encountered within my camp.
Friday at 10:24pm · Like

Jun . . . I’d rather be a disgusting smelly beastly military brute WHEN NEEDED as well as your preferred sweet smelling sissy when needed.

WHY NOT BOTH as and when needed? BTW biological guys tend towards the smelly brutish type. Sissy is used as a name btw Justin, also stereotyping unwilling people amounts to bullying (guess who . . . )

– dude seriously – Aight Justine . . . mmm try Waterworld or MadMax types crossed with Letters of Marque and Privateering (can’t wait for the Airborne version privateer . . . ). Xe-Blackwater is the Infantry version (though they haven’t run a very tight operation where Human Rights abuses or accidents or black-op stuff is concerned – wanna run a merc operation? Run a clean one.). For style, watch ‘The Substitute’ (1996) one can imagine that Bay of Pigs was done exactly by people like these . . . , or for a wimped out version of ‘style’, try ‘Aliens 2’ (1986) though Napalm Death barring surfeit of cybernetic limbs or bodyparts ala Apotemnophilia (out of active thought not mental illness) par excellence, probably takes the prize. Jun * right back at u 2 – willful strong females are a sign of worsening times, it is a upper class luxury to live as ‘they will not be able to take it sisters’ and upper crust chivalrous minded to ‘don’t want my sisters to go though the army’, though the non-insular ‘out there’ type females in lower society will need to be strong willed and whatever with any males in that sort of position doubtless having more competitors even when breadwinning by females do not see females espousing the sense of paternalism ethics males of the older generation had.

Sad times really. And again, if citizens were to set up or be entirely militia in themselves (with the wealthier allowed to buy innovate and command their own tank battalions (Brad Pitt has a tank, some other plane collectors have a few squadrons worth – warbirding enthusiasts also . . . ) and ships (plutocrats who outfit super yatchs with armour and weapons effectively have warships – who needs Prince Harry to catch pirates when any rich guy with a bunch of bodyguards trained as mercenaries with a mind for extreme Ship-Modding and artillery can do the same) or artillery (technical stay at home types types, Admiral Boom – Mary Poppins 1964) and missile silos (nerds, Dr.Evil types – well not so evil probably they would have to inform the government for safety etc..), fundo families or plutocrats building bunker systems for themselves (might be required to build for 100 other people for everey 1 person capacity 99%-1% . . . as a spin off requirement), there would be no need of the taxpayer to pay for an army and feed that same army with their money. It’s all self funded, though discipline lessons and ethics training, psyche checks would probably be required for anything beyond small arms.

How about a Pig-‘furry’ who is a sissy. Have you considered the feelings or PC of talking like that? Besides your pro-sissy NLPs are abit too obvious to be effective. Let those who want to be sissy or piggy come out and say it for themselves instead of you ‘Jun’ the Faux-Non-Feminist-Strawman-Feminist (who might be an aging PAP ‘apek’ (geezer) rotting at home hoping to be picked to run in the next election because he cannot conceive running for election as an independent . . .) saying it for them, it’s pathologically manipulative y’know. Let MCPs have their space, militant feminists (M.F.s) as well (sure you’ll only get the sub-male types hanging around you, be prepared, they are a NEEDY lot, perhaps perfect to keep M.F. attention occupied than having them go around tearing apart traditional family types i.e. Yin is Yin, Yang is Yang . . . ). I mean it should be perfectly ok for male-persons to be ANYTHING including MCPs, not just sissies.

Jun Lee : ?~* Wasted 3 years of my life in unappreciated, uncompensated sexist male mandatory national service aka slavery imposed upon all of us expendable local “none-talents” ( 3-years including the waiting and pre-BMT training period ; not to mention the psychogical truama especially since I’ve been suffering and going insane from my Gender Dysphoria which has intensified since puberty ) ; sacrificing on the best part of our youths , studies and career ; and trying to adapt back into civilian live again thereafter with all the psychological damaged sustained for years after ( loss of thinking skill, forgotten most of what that has previously been learnt, struggling silently with numbing depression, OCD, anxiety and thought disorder ) ; having to waste time doing reservice ( imposing upon our civilian freedom in many fronts ~ have to cut hair stupid short , loss of work productivity , can’t sue if sustained severe injury during training , and less than adequate compensation be it transport or loss of commission or outputs and not to mention the immense inconvenience caused having to report to mindef , be in the company of MCP macho headed assholes again , and all kinds of insults like having to apply for exit permits on a yearly basis . .~* Foreign Talents :: Don’t have to go through all that male-mandatory NS / Reservice shit . .~* Proposal :: FTs and citizens who did not waste their time doing NS and re-service should pay substantially more taxes , to compensate for those victims who were born in the “wrong” biological-sex ( at least I think I am ) who were forced to do so./End Bitching

Croydon residents’ shock over night of violence – by Chirag Trivedi -9th August 2011

In Abuse of Power, England, Riot, Riots, Wealth distribution on January 28, 2012 at 2:32 pm
(BBC London) The disturbances across London on Monday night have been described by the Metropolitan Police as the worst “in current memory”. It served Croydon for more than 140 years. But it just took one night of violence for it to be destroyed. Family-run business Reeves Furniture was established in 1867 and was so famous locally that the area – Reeves Corner – and a tram stop are named after it. But all that has now gone and owner Maurice Reeves, 80, said he was “devastated”. The shop was destroyed as buildings and cars were set alight on a third night of violence in London, which saw more than 200 people arrested. London Fire Brigade said it dealt with major blazes across the capital on a night which saw “unprecedented” events. Mr Reeves, who runs the furniture shop with his sons Trevor, 55, and Graham 45, has seen his business experience hard times before.
“We survived World War I, the 30s depression, World War II, the recession in the 80s, and all that time we served the people of Croydon. “But in the end it was the people of Croydon, so it seems, that has finally destroyed us.” ‘We are fighters’ Mr Reeves was out in London celebrating his 21st wedding anniversary with his wife Anne, 72, when he heard about the trouble. Maurice Reeves with his two sons i front of his burnt out shop Maurice Reeves was celebrating his wedding anniversary when he heard about the violence He came home to see his store up in flames. “It was hard to describe. It was hugely upsetting and I could only think ‘why?’.
“The whole family is absolutely appalled and devastated by what has happened and I don’t know what’s going to happen now. “We will talk to the insurers obviously – but we will be back. We are fighters.” Some 50 firefighters tackled the blaze at Reeves Furniture store and a woman was forced to jump from a first floor flat as the fire from the shop spread to homes. Croydon Council leader Mike Fisher said the cost of the disturbances in the area would run into millions of pounds. A total of 28 families were made homeless and placed in temporary accommodation but most would be able to return shortly, he said. Walking around Croydon town centre many roads remained taped off by police, as fire crews remain damping down two buildings hit by Monday night’s disturbances. Shops including Argos, Maplin, Lidl and Iceland had their windows smashed and a number of smaller shops, including jewellers and newsagents, were also targeted. Burnet out shell of a bus Residents feared flames from a burning bus would set fire to their homes Richer Sounds electrical store and the Cycle King shop were completely ransacked. The owner of the Il Ponte Italian restaurant is cutting short his holiday after his windows were smashed. And a number of stores in the Whitgift centre including Currys have been raided. The shell of a burnt-out bus and a burnt down bus shelter remain along with a lot of confusion. Several roads are blocked off and many buses are diverted. One West Croydon resident, who did not want to be named, said: “Look at Croydon, look what they have done. They are just all mindless idiots wanting to nick something. “This has nothing to do with what happened in Tottenham. ” Local resident Jennifer Gray-Evans Jennifer Gray-Evans could see the burning bus from her living room window Sixty-six-year-old Jennifer Gray-Evans lives just behind Reeves Furniture store. She said she could also see the burning bus from her living room window, adding: “It was absolutely terrifying – we had the Reeves fire on one side and the bus shelter on the other. “We did not know what to do, whether to stay inside or leave. “Later, I heard people were evacuated, but we were not given any advice and we stayed. We could see hot embers flying towards our house and we thought it was going to go up.”
‘It was horrible’ Another resident in West Croydon said: “We could see big groups going down London Road and they were allowed to do what they wanted. “They were smashing windows, stealing stuff and we could not see any police. They seemed to be up the road somewhere. “Then the groups started running off, later we saw the fires. “It was horrible. I don’t know what’s up with these kids but they left the place looking messed up and we’ve got to pay for it.” Croydon Council staff sign up people at East Croydon station to help the clean-up People are signing up to help the clean-up The local business, Croydon Ceilings, escaped any damage. But its branch manager said staff did not know what they were going to do today. “We have not been told by the police or anyone about whether to stay open or shut up. I know they are busy, but we haven’t been given any advice.” It may have been residents of Croydon that caused the damage but it is the residents of the south London borough that are helping to clear it up. Council staff have been around the town centre signing people up to help the clean-up. Nick Jefferson, who signed up, said: “It’s our town so we should help – to show everyone that there are good people in Croydon.”
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Not inconceivable that neurotech users are being punished. Spiritual warfare otherwise? It cannot be a simple riot for no reason with such specifics. This is a spiritually NEUTRAL and civil society. Are these people finding basic decencies and courtesies are neglected to empower oneself over others with? Now they punish severly the trangressors, WITH or WITHOUT the so-called police, courts or so-called government? More theories but given the nature of reality, it is not too difficult to believ the worst and to applaud reparations. The PEOPLE are the true power. Every stolen iota will exact it’s price so that balance is returned, justice is done. The people do move, and against the tyrants this time.
Remember to vote only for MPs who will rewrite the laws and constitution into something reasonable too, lower taxes, re-distribute the wealth, etc. . . . See the pledge/questionairre below as well : Also try the below link and possibly know why the furniture shop was targeted.
Free sexual thrills: What price privacy? – 11th July 2010
As mentioned before, I really hope the people there will not have to free those imprisoned simply to enrich the prison contractors, supplier and such via ridiculous laws and wrongful application of laws use of loopholes within laws to enrich, that neglectful and abusive MPs put into place. Spirit of the Law is not present in too many laws or the way they are applied. Will an honest MP address this properly? Or will more abuses via so many ways subtle or obvious cause more riots because the law and the government neglect or close an eye to subtle abuses of citizens?

5 Legal Issue Articles and Punishments Out of Spirit of Law / Punishment Suggestions – fr. Various Sites – Mid Aug 2011

In Equality, Ethics, Justice, Law, social freedoms on January 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Policeman punished for encouraging woman to flash her breast – by Malaysia Chronicle – 10 August 2011 14:41 A POLICE officer who encouraged a woman to flash her breasts and then got other officers to take photos of him putting handcuffs on her during last year’s Valley Fiesta is appealing a dock in pay. Constable Travis Garth was reprimanded after accepting an invitation to see a woman’s “boob job” while patrolling as part of Operation Unite, the national police crackdown on booze-fuelled violence, an internal police disciplinary report states. The police investigation found he also allowed her to wear a police cap in the photos and didn’t delete them as ordered to by his boss, the Courier-Mail reported. “I find that you participated in a number of photographs being taken with a semi-naked female member of the public and that you were wearing a police uniform, used police issue handcuffs in an inappropriate manner by posing with the handcuffs to give the appearance she was under arrest,” Assistant Commissioner Tony Wright said in his disciplinary decision. “These photographs were stored on your mobile phone and on that of (a colleague’s) mobile telephone. “I find that you showed other police officers the photograph of you standing next to a semi-naked woman exposing her breasts and . . . said you ‘just had the best night ever’.” Mr Wright said in the disciplinary hearing report that “when applying the appropriate standard of proof, the only finding that I can make is misconduct”. He said in the interest of ensuring the confidence of the community in the force, he had to “establish a strong deterrence” to such behaviour. Constable Garth said in his submission to Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal (QCAT) he received a pay cut of about $55,000 over four years, not including superannuation, overtime or allowances. He argued the penalty was “grossly excessive” and that his peers and supervisors agreed the incident was “out of character”. “I am married with two children and am supporting my family almost on one wage,” he said in the QCAT submission. “With the financial penalty that I will receive, I will not be able to continue my position within the QPS. “I understand that I have caused embarrassment to the QPS and I am extremely remorseful for it. However, I ask for leniency due to my work history and my financial position.” Queensland Police Union president Ian Leavers said it was inappropriate to comment on the case because it was before QCAT. Police sources say Constable Garth was lucky not to have been sacked. –
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Breaking ice is not penalty worthy. Laugh it off and forget it or give a warning for 1st offenders at most and punish equitably, which is not really finable but perhaps different assignment away from the public. Australia indulges in fascism keeps the police cold and distant from the public.
Wednesday, Woman paid $26,600 over sperm (this should read semen?) in water – by Malaysia Chronicle – 10 August 2011
A US man convicted of ejaculating into a co-worker’s water bottle has been ordered to pay the woman more than $US27,000 ($26,600). The Los Angeles Times says a judge today ordered Michael Kevin Lallana to pay the woman for loss of wages, therapy and medical expenses. Lallana was convicted earlier this year of two misdemeanour counts of battery. Prosecutors say Lallana deposited his semen twice last year in the water bottle of a co-worker at Northwestern Mutual Mortgage Company in Newport Beach. The woman drank from the bottle both times, throwing the first one away after detecting a foul taste. The second time she sent the bottle to a lab for testing. Lallana was arrested in July 2010 and his DNA was later matched to the water bottle. –
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Which taxpayer votes for the woman to drop some of her own stuff into a bottle and have the law make the offender drink it instead of paying 6 years of tax monies to house and feed him as well as destroy the man’s life? As this was done in private, the punishment should equitably be done in private as well so that the offender can get back to their life almost immediately. Remember eye for eye and tooth for tooth? This si how a country becomes bankrupt, enriching the prison contractor/crony system. Vote for an MP who can amend punishments for such offenses.
Man fights local council to keep pet – by Malaysia Chronicle – 10 August 2011 A PET sheep is at the centre of a $60,000 battle between a Melbourne man and his local council. Vu Ho, 54, has taken the fight for his sheep, Baa, all the way to the Supreme Court after Greater Dandenong City Council threatened to remove his beloved pet. If he loses the case on September 7, he faces $30,000 in legal costs plus a similar bill for the council’s lawyers. The Springvale mechanic said Baa had become like a “younger sister or child” to him and he would do whatever it took to keep her. “It started off that I got her as a more civilised way to cut the grass at my workshop,” he said. “But she became a pet, like part of the family. It’s like she’s one of my children. I have to take care of her and look after her welfare.” Mr Ho said he had kept Baa at his workshop and in the backyard of his nearby home for 10 years. But Greater Dandenong City Council local laws officers hit him with a $220 fine on February 25 for “keeping livestock on land under half (a) hectare”. Mr Ho, who came to Australia in 1981 as a Vietnamese refugee, said under the council’s 2005 local law, “livestock” referred to any animal, including cats and dogs. He will argue before the court that all pet owners in the municipality would lose the right to their animals if that section of the law were strictly applied. The council updated the laws late last month, exempting cats and dogs from the term “livestock”. Mr Ho moved Baa to a farm at Cranbourne three months ago while he prepared his challenge. But he said he “could feel” that Baa missed being around him at his workshop, which he also shared with his dog, Chucky. “About two weeks ago I could feel that she was missing me. I felt a warm feeling, it was a connection with my sheep,” he said. Hymans Solicitors, of Dandenong, have taken on Mr Ho’s case but declined to comment yesterday, as did Greater Dandenong City Council. – Herald Sun
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More fascism by the Australians and a waste of manpower and abuse of citizens. Who even cares if there is an elephant on that property if it doesn’t even cause anyone a single cent? They should be more concerned about animal abuse cases (in this case it is the council abusing the guy by seperating him from his pet). What this proves is a big society/big brother mentality and a desire of the existing governemnt in Australia to interfere in private lives. If we didn’t know better, this is even about white folk (Australians who come from England) oppressing Vietnamese and other Asian communities.
Sacking Of Eight Immigration Officers Does Not Exempt Them From Prosecution For Their Crimes – by William Leong – 9th August 2011
I refer to the report in The Sun on 9th August 2011 on the statement by the Immigration Director-General Alias Ahmad that disciplinary action had been taken and the eight immigration officers detained under the Internal Security Act (“ISA”) had been sacked. The fact that they have been sacked does not exempt them from prosecution for their crimes. I ask the Minister of Home Affairs, Hishammuddin Hussein, to reconsider his decision not to charge the 8 officers in a court of law for the various offences they have committed. The Home Minister said the eight officers had committed serious crimes such as terrorist activities, firearms smuggling, drugs and espionage as well as human trafficking. The Home Minister said the eight were freed because they have shown remorse, repented for their mistakes and have given full cooperation to the authorities to stamp out human trafficking. I call upon the Home Minister to see that the due process of the law is complied and to charge them for the serious crimes he said they had committed. The Home Minister must not act as prosecutor, judge, jury and pardons board to release them because they have shown remorse. If remorse is the criterion for not prosecuting criminals, we will have anarchy. This is because murderers and thieves will be walking around scot free by allowing them to claim they show remorsefulness and are repentant for their crimes. The Minister of Home Affairs must ensure that this is a nation where the Rule of Law applies and not the arbitrary Rule of Men. William Leong Jee Keen is MP of Selayang
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Don’t be bloodthirsty in demanding so much more. They must be allowed to correct themselves and be allowed to become EX-thieves though EX-murderer’s lives are as forfeit as the victim’s families decide. Murder cannot be revived. Theft is easily repared. In the case of the 8 immigration officers, if they can help in a way equitable to what they have stolen (with interest calculated, if that is even possible), then they should not be further punished. Sacking is already quite severe, they probably have families to raise.
Drug Charge: Woman In Nude Ear Squat Case Goes Free – Bernama – 9 August 2011
PETALING JAYA — The woman linked to the ear squatting-in-the-nude incident was and acquitted and discharged of a drug charge by the Magistrate’s Court here on Monday. Magistrate Nor Afidah Idris ruled that the prosecution failed to establish a prima facie case against Hemy Hamisa Abu Hassan, 28. Hemy’s husband, Kamarul Hamri Mohd Latif, 27, and three others, Azman Mohd Nor, 32, Salman Al Mujahid, 27, and Juan Caesan Mohamad, 32, who were jointly charged with possession of 10.19 grams of syabu at Sekolah Kebangsaan Damansara Jaya 1 & 2, on June 29, 2005 at 1.45am were similarly freed. Counsel Baljit Singh Sidhu defended her while Deputy Public Prosecutor Fatimah Zahra Ramli prosecuted. The mother of three had on Aug 29, 2006 filed a compensation lawsuit naming Mohd Dzulfatah Saari (a constable at the time) who allegedly recorded the ear squat incident, and the government as respondents. She had sought for RM250,000 exemplary damages and other reliefs deemed by the court. The case was settled out of court on July 27 this year.
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The officers who made the woman squat, should be made to squat in the nude to as many people who saw the woman directly with the media clips seen by as many people as well. But 250K compensation is ridiculous and not equal or just as some would demand that they being indvertent voyeurs be compensated for sickened emotions and defiled eyes. It’s not about money, it’s about equitable punishment. Who knows the nude squat woman’s aurat was destroyed and irreplaceable? A price cannot be placed on chastity but the same can be taken in equal measure from the perpetrators without a single cent involved as this is not about money. Meanwhile media should be responsible enough to not simply leak in a manner that causes the life of the nude squat woman to be ruined.

Sarawak’s ‘Red Rally’ earns Bersih support – by Keruah Usit Hornbill Unleashed – 10th August 2011

In 3rd Force, Apartheid, Bumiputera Apartheid, Equality, Invasive Laws, Justice, Law, Malaysia, moles, Pakatan, Pakatan Rakyat Coalition, Straw-women, Strawmen on January 28, 2012 at 2:24 pm
The ‘Red Rally’ for democratic reforms in Sarawak on Saturday has won the support of election reform coalition Bersih 2.0 and has drawn – predictably enough – police scrutiny. Bersih 2.0 had invited two leading ‘Red Rally’ organisers from the Movement for Change Sarawak (MoCS) – leader Francis Siah and Kuala Lumpur co-ordinator Ronald Sia – to its steering committee meeting last Thursday. “We were very pleased that Francis and Ronald were able to attend the NGO meeting and share their experiences. Much of what they shared with us sounded so familiar and I hope they were able to draw courage from knowing that they are not alone in this endeavour,” Bersih 2.0 chairperson Ambiga Sreenavasan told Malaysiakini.
The NGO coalition had received reports of electoral fraud in Sarawak in April’s state assembly election and last May’s Sibu by-election. The coalition, Ambiga explained, is also concerned with the disenfranchisement of many Sarawakians living and working in Peninsular Malaysia, because they are unable to return to vote in Sarawak. Bersih has called on the Election Commission to save the postal vote from the swamp of alleged ballot-stuffing, clean it up and offer it to all voters living away from home. Among beneficiaries from such a move would be an estimated one million Malaysian citizens studying or working abroad. azlanTens of thousands of Sarawakians have been driven to seek employment in the Klang Valley and Johor, thanks to the seizure of their native customary land by well-connected logging and plantation companies, and by dismal employment prospects at home. In the recent Sarawak election, most could not afford to return to vote.
Ambiga noted that Bersih 2.0 remains in touch with civil society in Sarawak, including MoCS. Bersih had initiated a forum in Sarawak before the April polls, on land rights and other pressing social issues. “We felt it was important that all Malaysians became aware of the situation in Sarawak as we all have a shared destiny,” Ambiga said. Ambiga contested the conventional wisdom that most Sarawakians lack political education and drive, since they derive most of their information from the tightly-controlled mainstream media. “Although the general population may have been less politically aware before, this in my view is changing,” she ventured. “In this journey to greater political awareness, I hope the people of Sarawak will support the efforts of (the MoCS) for a better Sarawak and a better Malaysia.” Political corruption There were echoes of this assertion in Ambiga’s remarks in aninterview, published yesterday in the New York Times, that the campaign for electoral reform has become a “true citizens’ movement, because the citizens have taken ownership of Bersih”. Ambiga expressed regret that she will not be able to attend the ‘Red Rally’ because of the Taib Mahmud administration’s ban on her entry into the state. She confirmed she will file an appeal against the decision of the High Court not to allow her to initiate a judicial review of the locking out of Bersih 2.0 activists. “I would have liked to be there…we wish (the MoCS) all the best and salute their courage and commitment.” Ambiga said the MoCS have made it “very clear” that the rally will be a peaceful expression of public opinion and that she hopes “the authorities will facilitate this peaceful rally”. She welcomed the MoCS campaign against political corruption, calling corruption a “major scourge” in the electoral and political system. azlan“The tragedy is that those who have the power to act, close an eye and refuse to act. In our view the Election Commission must take primary responsibility for corruption and all other offences under the Elections Offences Act,” she said. “What is the point in having legislation that deals with corruption in elections if no one is prepared to enforce it? It shows the lack of respect for the laws of this country, even by those in authority…this failure to act against corruption is a dereliction of duty.”
Police ‘welcome’ Francis will try to convince Sarawak Commissioner of Police Mortadza Nazarene, during a meeting arranged this morning, that the rally deserves a police permit. The MoCS has applied for police approval, but has received conflicting answers. The MoCS says the police had given a verbal assurance they would be allowed to demonstrate if they stayed in one place, and if they applied using a registered entity. After the MoCS jumped through these hoops, the Kuching police chief then denied any such promise had been made. Bersih 2.0 had been forced to endure a similar charade before its groundbreaking rally on July 9 in Kuala Lumpur. MoCS leader Francis SiahFrancis (striped shirt)returned to Kuching on Monday, to prepare for Saturday’s rally at the Cenotaph. He was met at the airport by five uniformed police officers. They handed him a letter demanding his presence at the state police headquarters today to give a statement, at the same time as the Commissioner of Police had agreed to meet him. He said he would abide by his earlier demand that the police first call in Taib to make a statement, in order to investigate allegations of corruption against Taib, before he would do likewise. “I have nothing to say until I’ve been informed that the police (have) also recorded a statement from Taib following the police report I lodged against him for corruption, money laundering and abuse of power on March 13,” Francis insisted.
Taib has been discomfited by widely reported allegations of land grabs in Sarawak, and a vast family property fortune spanning four continents. He faces a sticky choice. He may decide that clamping down on the ‘Red Rally’ may backfire, just as the police action against peaceful Bersih 2.0 demonstrators has damaged premier Najib Abdul Razak’s image abroad and at home. Taib’s supporters may argue that the Red Rally might lead to chaos, as a demonstration against the police shooting of a cab driver in London led to uncontrollable rioting over the past three days. This would carry little weight: the same argument was used by Najib’s ministers before Bersih 2.0, but the demonstrators were peaceful, while reports of police brutality were widely disseminated. If, on the other hand, Taib allows the police to issue a permit, he might be embarrassed by media coverage of the event. The harm to Taib’s image may translate to more votes against ruling coalition candidates during the upcoming parliamentary election. Regardless of the outcome of delicate negotiations with the police, the MoCS have announced they will proceed with Saturday’s protest, in defiance of the chief minister – even if the police impose a ban. KERUAH USIT is a human rights activist – ‘anak Sarawak, bangsa Malaysia’. This weekly column is an effort to provide a voice for marginalised Malaysians. Keruah Usit can be contacted
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“The tragedy is that those who have the power to act, close an eye and refuse to act. In our view the Election Commission must take primary responsibility for corruption and all other offences under the Elections Offences Act,” she said. SOUNDS LIKE AMBIGA TALKING ABOUT HERSELF. Why do you refuse to run for candidacy after taking all the credit as so-called leader of Bersiih 2.0? This is compounded by the fact thatso few REAL neutral leaders or citizens with any guts to be leaders exist in Malaysia? Unless you are but a BN mole? If you are sincere about what you say, you cannot refuse to run as candidate. In case the readers and voters forget, it was Ambiga in her pro-BN heyday as Bar Council President who caused rightful MB Nizar to lose Pahang. Maybe she has changed, but the fact that she said she’s not running for candidacy leaves her intent and loyalty to the Rakyat rather than BN doubtful. Run for candidacy AGAINST BN and even PR, set aside our doubts about your intentions Ambiga! “The tragedy is that those who have the power to act, close an eye and refuse to act. There is no place on this planet for those who continue APARTHEID, or aid and abet APARTHEID !

3 Articles on MRT in Malaysia and abuse of Eminent Domain Powers – posted by @AgreeToDisagree – late February 2012

In 3rd Force, Abuse of Power, Allodial, Eminent Domain, Equality, Ethics, Informed Consent, Invasive Laws, Malaysia, Property, social freedoms on January 28, 2012 at 9:42 am


Prasarana shortlists 28 companies for MRT project – by Malaysia Chronicle – 11 August 2011

KUALA LUMPUR – Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) has shortlisted 28 individual and joint venture (JV) companies that are eligible to bid for various elevated civil works, stations and depot packages under the multi-billion ringgit My Rapid Transit (MRT) infrastructure project. Prasarana in a statement today said the tenders comprising works packages for elevated civil works (eight packages), stations (eight packages) and depots (two packages) would be called in stages, beginning next month until December 2012. “The tender for the first stage, which involves two civil works packages will be issued early next month,” said Prasarana group managing director, Shahril Mokhtar. He said the two packages are a 5.4 km stretch from Taman Bukit Ria to Plaza Phoenix in Cheras and the other covering a 5.2km stretch from Taman Suntex to Bandar Tun Hussein Onn. Shahril said the 18 works packages were divided into two categories — open and Bumiputera — and applicants were evaluated based on several aspects, including financial capabilities, track record, experiences and health and environment practices.

For the JV submissions, he said technical and financial evaluations were carried out on the individual companies, with the total score of their technical and financial points combined based on their equity percentage. He said the 28 shortlisted companies were chosen from among 195 who submitted applications, following two public advertisements. Among the companies shortlisted for all three type of packages (elevated civil works, stations and depots) in the open category are Sunway Construction Sdn Bhd, Muhibbah Engineering (M) Sdn Bhd, IJM Construction Sdn Bhd, Gadang Engineering (M) Sdn Bhd and Loh & Loh Construction Sdn Bhd, he added. Meanwhile, in the Bumiputera category, Naim Engineering Sdn Bhd, Trans Resources Corporation Sdn Bhd, TSR Bina Sdn Bhd, Ahmad Zaki Sdn Bhd, HRA Teguh Sdn Bhd, Syarikat Muhibah Perniagaan & Pembinaan Sdn Bhd were shortlisted for all three type of packages. Tenders for the other works packages will be announced in due course.

Considered the country’s biggest infrastructure project as part of the Greater Klang Valley Master Plan, the MRT will provide the backbone service to the existing public transportation system, and be integrated with the existing LRT, KL Monorail and KTM services. Cutting through the city centre from Sungai Buloh to Kajang, the new MRT will run for approximately 51 km. This includes 9.5 km through underground tunnels and be serviced by 27 elevated stations, seven stations underground and depots at Sungai Buloh and Kajang. – Bernama

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I believe that there is enough space for ALL 28 companies to be included in building of the 27 stations and adjoining tracks. Who says a single or a handful of companies must take the entire contract? That way the fastest and most efficient and ‘least damaged section of tract after a few years’ company can be gauged or penalized. Share building plan costs then build cooperatively. Share the wealth via fair distribution of contracts or just admit you are not fair minded enough to be a good government. Meanwhile remember to vote for MPs who will ensure : 1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism 2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. 3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. Vote only for Joe Publics who are worth no more than 200K and able to pledge the items in the questionairre below as well :

Learn  these 2 terms EMINENT DOMAIN and ALLODIAL and vote only for MPs who will abolish the first and implement the second. Otherwise run for candidacy on the issues of these 2 terms. Will be a sure winner!



For development’s sake, Jalan Sultan shops must go, says Prasarana – by Yow Hong Chieh – 11th August 2011

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 11 — Sacrifices must be made in the name of development, the Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit (KVMRT) project owner told Jalan Sultan landowners whose properties will be acquired to allow for underground tunnelling works. Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) project development director Zulkifli Mohd Yusoff said today it was necessary to tunnel underneath Jalan Sultan as it represented the optimum alignment between the fixed points of KL Sentral and Permodalan Nasional Bhd’s (PNB) Merdeka development. A section of those who turned up for the Prasarana briefing on August 11, 2011. — Picture by Jack Ooi “We understand this place has been there for more than 100 years but I think all of us must realise that there must be sacrifices for development,” he told some 30 landowners at a briefing here today. “It’s not that we want to purposely acquire your land. The alignment has to go somewhere. This is for the rakyat.”

Zulkifli pointed out that Kampung Baru land had been similarly acquired for the Light Rail Transit (LRT) and other areas along the proposed Sungai Buloh-Kajang (SBK) KVMRT line will also face compulsory acquisition. “Jalan Sultan is not the only place. We have land in Kajang, land in Kota Damansara. Everyone is affected,” he said. He was responding to Bukit Bintang MP Fong Kui Lun, who expressed concern over the “great impact” acquisition and demolishment of part of the historic Chinatown enclave will have on the nation’s cultural heritage and tourism. Zulkifli stressed that unless the KVMRT optimised ridership by linking key fixed points that coincided with existing transport infrastructure, commercial areas and future developments, traffic congestion in Kuala Lumpur would continue worsen. “We don’t want Kuala Lumpur to be like Bangkok or Jakarta where the roads are like a parking lot [and] your car doesn’t move,” he said. The SBK line will cover a distance of 51km, of which 9.5km will be underground. Seven of the 31 stations will also be underground, including one under the existing Klang Bus Stand near Chinatown. SPNB has to acquire the land above the stations and tunnel before any subsurface work can begin as section 44 of the National Land Code 1965 states that property owners not only have the right to the plot itself but also the air above and ground below.

Zulkifli also revealed today that SPNB had spent “three to four months” in talks with the Attorney-General’s Chambers to see if it was possible to tunnel underneath existing properties without having to acquire them but was told it could not be done. “We had months of discussion with the Attorney-General’s Chambers on how we can have the tunnel underneath and the buildings remain… but under the current law, there is no such provision,” he said, adding that similar talks were held when planning the LRT. This prompted Fong to pledge he would table a motion in Parliament to amend the National Land Code to allow underground construction without the need for surface acquisition, to claps from those present. The Land Office will hold hearings with Jalan Sultan landowners starting August 15 to decide on the compensation to be paid to each. Owners may appeal the quantum by obtaining their own valuations.

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We will sacrifice the MP or the political coalition instead. Recall the below :

General Overview on Malaysian Politics – circa late April 2011 (Original)

What the people want the people must get. This is a subtle show of power. It is not inconceivable that the line can be bulit in another manner.


11 Government Reserve Land To Be Developed Nationwide – Malay Mirror – 16 July 2011
KUALA LUMPUR — Government reserve land at 11 locations nationwide will be developed through a collaboration between the Defence Ministry and Greencity Development Sdn.Bhd (GCDSB). An agreement to that effect was signed today by Deputy Defence Minister, Dr.Abdul Latiff Ahmad, on behalf of the Defence Ministry, and GCDSB, which was represented by its chief executive officer, Mohamad Khairuddin Taha. Speaking to reporters later, Abdul Latiff said that under the agreement, the land, covering 30 hectares, would be leased to the company for 30 years for development, including for building of petrol stations, integrated vehicle service centres and other automobile-related activities. “This is a good collaboration to avoid the land from being left idle and will also provide the government with RM7 million in revenue a year for 30 years,” he added. Abdul Latiff said implementation of the projects would also provide employment opportunities for army retirees. “We will ensure 35 per cent of the jobs that will created from these projects will be given to army retirees,” he added. (Bernama) [[[ *** RESPONSE *** ]]] Who owns Green City? 30% Bumi of nation = 30% 30% army(uniformed would be better?) within of 30% Bumi = 9% 30% of female 30% army(uniformed would be better?) within of 30% Bumi = 3% Total = 42% NON ORDINARY Malays, not including rest of country as well. How can this be fair? Muslim Malay voters, better end this system of patronage and favouring of civili servants. Not only are they supported lavishly by government, now they will be further favoured? How about raising salaries instead of doing something with this GLC which would likely by another full 30% (pocketed ‘commission’) OVER this 42% that does not include ordinary Muslim Malays. I don’t think the honest among the army or uniformed would even want to be involved in this.

Try the below too from oathkeepers USA you uniformed guys :

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control.”
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances. Love the Rakyat and challenge anything corrupt about to be fostered via Green City.

You are military men, dealers of death to invaders (army) and protectors of citizens (police), and NOT thieves stealing from the Rakyat by colluding with anyone. PAS ready to formalize the figures and breakdowns on this raiding of reserve lands already disenfranchising the minorities? Consider the sin of Asabiya then think about Reserve land and the below 3 items :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy.
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution.

The Rakyat of all races would absolutely love a ex-police or ex-army who will run on the above 3 items. Any ex-uniformed personnel who endorses the above 3 items could very well have a shot at PM, the regular politicians are too rich and involved in GLCs for their own and the Rakyat’s good. Just plutocrats, nepotists and racists, the dross of humanity as opposed to honourably discharged Muslim ex-army who denounce corruption via collusion against the Rakyat and the sin of Asabiya.

Discussion with Commentator @Patriot My about Pakatan Problems : Thursday, 26 January 2012 08:45 posted by Patriot My

In Uncategorized on January 28, 2012 at 7:59 am

@Patriot My said :

I am all for “feel good articles like this one, by Mathias Gomes, Stan Lee. In fact most articles articles in MC are “feel good articles.

I would feel much better and confident if strategies by PR (AND Evil umno as well ) are being posted as well or all to see the real situations on the ground at the battle front and to discuss and fine tune as well.

In the absence of strong PR strategies being stated in MC or elsewhere, I dont feel as good, as good as I should feel with continuing more feel good articles without substantiation for the “feel good. Get the drift ?

The failures of PR to get these strategies sorted out and further enhanced and refined, under a fuked EC, will hurt PR in all possibilities post GE with Evil umno win.
I am not the least surpised that PR, despite its all the hula2x of “feel good episodes, has failed in this department with a D grade performance with A to F grade ratings.

I would be the first to stand up to cheer the MC writer(s) to talk about strategies, solutions, survesy, anecdotal evidence by PR (and even from evil umno) as the strategies help to determine the presence or absence, the higher or litle degreee, of grassroot activities and the direction we are in.

Moaz Nair has done something like that from his recent article on some sampling feedback in Tanjung Lumpur(?) We must get these info sooner than later to give the feedback to us/PR all (and for evil) consumpton) on what is happening ON the ground.

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@Patriot My, Malaysia Chronicle is here to show people how ‘clever’ they are, not make people clever. You are here to be awed, not to participate in politics to become political competitors, because Pakatan especially DAP, are undemocratic term limitless nepotistic careerists that recognize potential ‘competition’ from regular citizens (much like John Lees chattering masses, or Azmi Sharom’s ‘statistics’ who deserve no consideration, or PAP’s elite uncaring faces par excellence Wee Shumin) who could set up a similar media portal or rival (3rd Force) political party ANYTIME – in other words being ‘media’ and ‘political seat monopoly’ minded (Kua Kia Soong details this in his article “One candidate, one seat: It’s democracy, stupid!” quite well), self serving types than anything else.

At least Malaysia Chronicle doesn’t delete comments like they did at one point. Malaysian Chronicle still though lacks journalistic neutrality or a sense of duty to it’s readers, it’s a Pakatan propaganda machine probably on some payroll, don’t expect too much from this outfit and use the comments area to communicate with other commentators for what value can be derived.

Steven Tyler’s $4.8million dream Hawaiian home… complete with infinity pool and floor-to-ceiling aquarium By Sarah Bull Last updated at 3:57 PM on 27th January 2012

In Uncategorized on January 28, 2012 at 7:53 am

American Idol judge Steven Tyler must be more than a little excited after picking up his dream home in Hawaii for nearly $2million than the listed price.

The 63-year-old rocker paid a still-expensive $4.8million for the property, situated on the edge of the ocean on a nature reserve in Maui, but significantly less than the original asking price.

The stunning home, which is situated over 3,000 sq ft of land, is shaped like a pentangle and featured two bedrooms and three-and-a-half bathrooms.

Hawaiian paradise: Steven Tyler snapped up his dream home in Hawaii for $4.8million – nearly $2million less than the asking price

And, in keeping with Tyler’s eccentric lifestyle, the house also features a floor-to-ceiling aquarium in one room, and an infinity swimming pool.

Tyler recently revealed that he and fiancée Erin Brady had the house ‘blessed’ before moving in.

Recalling his proposal to Brady, Tyler said: ‘I gave her the ring on Christmas Day and the next morning we flew to Hawaii and we were out getting our house smudged, what’s it called there, with a great kahuna? Christened, in a manner of speaking…

Lap of luxury: The stunning property is shaped like a pentangle and features a floor-to-ceiling aquarium and infinity swimming pool

Bless this house: Tyler and fiancée Erin Brady had the property blessed before moving in to it

‘There’s always some island person that comes and blesses the house, gets rid of all the, you know, whatever was left over from there before…’

Tyler, 63, proposed to 38-year-old Brady over the festive period, after nearly six years of dating.

Brady, who is 25 years his junior, will be his third wife – they have been together since 2006.

Set to wed: Tyler proposed to Brady, who will be his third wife, over the Christmas period

Slender: It’s not hard to see what Aerosmith frontman Steven sees in Erin

The Rocker’s first marriage was to Andy Warhol model Cyrinda Fox lasted from 1978 to 1987. The pair had a daughter together, Mia, who followed her mother’s footsteps into modelling.

Tyler was also married to clothing designer Teresa Barrick from 1988 until 2006. They had two children together, a daughter, Chelsea, and son, Taj.

The couple divorced in 2006, the same year Tyler entered into a relationship with Brady.

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How about wooing back wife 1 and 2 too (start with an invitation this marriage) so that the whole family could be together? If Steve can handle that, the new members of his family will be quite fortunate as discussed in another article, Steve would also show that polygamy is cool and in-vogue again. Would make for a grand family portrait wouldn’t it? Ahem the last photo . . . try Face Off (1997) ‘Papa’s got a brand new bag (pad – with Erin carrying the paddle also ROFL!!!) peaches!!! . . .’ . . . ugh won’t go further (Run Liv run!!! . . . )

‘Marital Ethics’ specifically to counter indulgence in incestuous tendencies in society, could require that a man may not marry any wife intentionally because she might look like an existing daughter that grows up . . . OR any grown daughter . . . AS WELL AS . . . any relatives who look like the future wife, in the same light responsibility of all people to not imprint themselves on others so that uniqueness can result is also another aspect of ethics to prevent spiritual inbreeding and copycat murderers where one person tries to look like or becone another with intent to kill the copied person . . . ) . . . the luxury of large communities has made incest a genetic liability, standards have thus risen, that is also why ‘small’ communities are looked down on, though while to seek a mate a larger population is better, that same small community (if not high density) is generally a better place to raise a family, go figure, the complexities of society entirely escape anthropologists and educators that this society destroying sickness and malaise is allowed to persist so that suicides and bullying and bullies or mob mindedness typifies supposedly advanced societies, they have the trappings and technology but the populations are too small and inbred, the mindsets provincial no end. In general experience living in 2 different closed communities of 1 million and 5 million respectively, it took me near 2 decades to figure this out and post this here. Always choose the cities with largest populations to seek a mate, and that anything below 5 million results in a form of spiritual inbreeding . . . not viable at all, too disgustingly COMMON, inbred and ‘small town’.

Damn~ S.T. . . . you a fer’ real American right down to the in**** . . . No hard feeling though you’re among the cooler and more distinct Americans of the day and cannot be blamed for all the stuff, nobody teaches these subtleties in finishing school much less university. Heck most of us have lost that level of education that leads to the mass proliferation of LC culture now . . .

The militant feminists and fundos need to know this :- Don’t be goin’ witch huntin’ y’hear mad’uns?

Good one Daily Mail, almost feel at home with the writers at DailyMail if DailyMail is not merely downloading, reading and replicating (I hope not, but have always suspected that there were some intelligent people in the world, just not where I am what with the psychotic, aged brutes in positions of authority and monopoly minded nepotists and 3rd world governance . . . ).

I’ll shut up now. *Snigger*.