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19 Articles From Around the World : Poseur Article with NLPs Incuplating Specific Mindsets, Ethical View on Diaoyu, Subtle Islamisation Agenda Article?, Fundos Everywhere, Psychiatry A Tool of Control – Think For Yourselves and STand For Your Rights to Be Who You Are, The Media Outlet Which Cried Wolf, Names Not Permanent, Spaces for All, A Good Example of Forms and Blogospheres Littered with NLPs, Degrees A Trap And Tool Of Control, Celebration of the Nudists of the 2010s, Who Gives Birth To Who?, Medvedev’s Warnings, US StateGovernments Saving Money, Whale Skin Cocktail, Nursing And The Education Requirement Problem, Singapore’s Doomsday Oriented Construction Activities, China Continues Massive Scale Construction – Fengshui to Diffuse or Harness Energy, EU Flexes Muscles from Brussels at Independent Minded Scotland, Names Chosen by Parents are Not Names Chosen by the Individual, Reuters Slips In Manipulative MSM Article, Various Commentators’ Justification of Beginning A Civilisational War on Islam, Removal of Mubarak is for Egypt, Egyptian Culture, Egyptian Religion and an Egyptian Pharoanate But NOT for Arabist Islamists – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree – 13th December 2012

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ARTICLE 1

Truth By Consensus – How To Control Our Thinking – by Zen Gardner – Tuesday, December 4th, 2012

Funny how this works. People actually think they can arrive at the truth by averaging what they hear. Seriously. That’s how most people are taught to think. I get this argument all the time. It totally explains the power of the mass media. Just think about this dynamic. How do people arrive at conclusions? What information or lack thereof are they deriving them from? Pretty stark reality if you’re willing to look it in the eyes. People are incredibly similar in their outlook and understandings. And hence behaviors. Incredibly so. Like we’re following a script. Look at yourself. How you dress, the expressions you use, what you’re into. No matter what segment of society you’re living in, it’s pretty freaky. I remember when I decided to grow out my facial hair and looking in the mirror thinking, “Am I following some meme being broadcast by these bastards?”

Paranoid? Totally. It’s the only way on this planet. Completely healthy. If you’re not, you’re not awake yet. Truth is Never Popular. While a defined consensus gets established and reaffirms the status quo, “contrary” eddies of thought and realization make their way through the public psyche. These are carefully ferreted out by the watchdog media cabal and portrayed as “fringe” ideas and “conspiracy theories” of course. Carefully and dutifully packaged and sublimated into a negative subconscious arena for the mainstream unawakened. Anything contrary is now anathema, resented; spuriously thrown overboard as wing nut conspiracy talk. Typical. And more importantly…very effective and very efficient.

Getting To the Point

I’ll take Truth over BS fairy tales any day of eternity. No matter the pain and seeming loss of emotional or otherwise investments, bring on the Truth. 9/11 is always the standard reminder of how duped the world can be. Plain as the nose on your face those towers were brought down by some sort of exotic and carefully planned out demolition technique, but what the hell. No one cares. Or very few. At least that’s the portrayal we get and it seems to hold way too much water. People are even afraid to discuss the subject. That’s when you know society has been seriously hemmed in and headed for dismemberment. As obvious as it is, the Truth can just be right there without people being able to see it. It’s the condition of our “race”…we want to believe what we want and will cloak it in “positive thinking” or “idealism” or imposed bottom line security needs whenever we can for peace and comfort. Very, very sad from the Truth perspective, but oh so understandable. Blindness until awakened. What a tale. But behold the awakening in spite of all this!

Enter Psycho-Sexual Addiction

This psychological pandering we’re witnessing is simply a ploy to keep the masses asleep. The populace has been duped, hypnotized, seduced. It no longer can contain, maintain or control itself. It must have the savories and goodies of the system or it will go berserk.  This addiction is firmly established. Football, advertising, game shows, reality dramas, zombie and vampire horror and sci-fi movies while sucking down addictive, poisonous foods………”Please bring it on! We want more! We want another reality, not our own!” Scantily dressed young girls, sculpted effeminized men, cross sexual weirdness of every type and genre…. …bring it on. Chaos is our new middle name–in fact, their manipulated shifting world is apparently our New Normal. ‘Chaos is the new normal’ is as cognitively dissonant as the ‘war on terrorism’. Orwell, you must be howling!

Summary

Know what you “believe” about not only their false structure, but our true reality, to the point it’s not a belief. Please know each of those as facts…not an emotional extension of some hope or sense of idealism. Be sure you’re deciding for yourself and not following anything unconsciously. We’re not used to that kind of truly independent thought, having been taught all our lives to just follow, obey and repeat, so it’s a lot of work and a set of muscles that have to be developed. You’ll see what I mean as it goes along. Affirming our conscious awakening in spirit, word and deed is our primary purpose and most potent weapon. Not only against the usurpers and the ignorance and darkness that seems to rule our current paradigm, but for the development and realization of the true conscious reality that is there to be expressed into this dimension. Get busy being and doing what you know is right and the rest will follow, I guarantee. Because that’s how it works. And do it in love. If we can wake up, anybody can. Love, Zen

“If you’re not free to follow life’s signs and live in synchronicity, you’re not free.” – Zen

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. . . It must have the savories and goodies of the system or it will go berserk. . . . Chaos is our new middle name–in fact, their manipulated shifting world is apparently our New Normal. . . .

Actually savouries or goodies MUST not be considered such. Chaos is not ‘our’ new middle name, Chaos is not mainstream, Chaos is going to take a proper place WITHOUT punishment. There is no way ‘Chaos’ can co-opt you unless you are Chaotically inclined, and given the need of Chaos in evolution per se, I’d say Chaos is the very most important thing to ANY species which wants to move on, even as older structures become increasingly exotic and rarefied to the point of gaining value (in retarded areas of the 3rd world, the rare are villified much like LGBT, in the right places, the rare’d be exotic and invested in to ensure survival . . . ).

Religion would have taken the role of rare, but the overproliferation and low quality of followers, obvious internal rot and abusive nature of religion says that religion is already over-proliferated and people being subconsciously sick of religion, acting whatever in the only way they can, to sabotage religion much like pedo-priests protesting celibacy, Islamists protesting no alcohol and no pork rules by being violent, Buddhists acquiring car collections and much trappings of wealth and gold all around the temple (Temples to rampant-Capitalism and Greed), even as Buddha said to not be materialistic, can we see that the highest ranked in the faith actually do the most opposite? I wonder if I do enough ‘opposite’ I’d be the Ecclesiarch Primifex of the Planet . . .

. . . So get busy being and doing what you know is right and the rest will follow, I guarantee. Because that’s how it works.  . . .

Don’t accidentally co-opt what is already known as your own!

@Zen appears to be quite fused with whatever mass mind or community hive @Zen is from (@Zen is less hive minded overall but still enough to identify that the mindset is still hivelike). Truth By Consensus problems as describe above are however correct. Subversive article with a good NLP positive article that disparages ‘Chaos’? Hard to say, but whatever we gravitate to, that is what we truly are, everything else is just nonsense, regardless of whatever laws or social trends, though spaces appropriate to size and facilities must be available to all and sundry in either case.

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China opposes U.S. bill concerning Diaoyu Islands (Xinhua) 09:09, December 04, 2012

BEIJING, Dec. 3 (Xinhua) — China has expressed serious concern and firm opposition to a U.S. bill that regards China’s territory as under the authority of a U.S.-Japan security pact.

At a regular press briefing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters, “The Chinese side expresses serious concern and firm opposition to the U.S. Senate’s amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act which involves the Diaoyu Island and its affiliated islets.”

In the bill, which the U.S. Senate passed last week, the United States reaffirmed that it “takes no position” on the ultimate sovereignty of the Diaoyu Islands. However, the bill notes that Japan has the rights of administration over the territory and that “unilateral actions of a third party” would not affect its position.

Hong said the Diaoyu Island and its affiliated islets have always been the inherent territory of China since ancient times, and China has undisputed sovereignty over the Diaoyu Islands.

According to the U.S. bill, any armed attack “in the territories under the administration of Japan” would be met under the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security.

Hong called the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan as a “product of the Cold War era”, saying it should not go beyond bilateral scopes, nor undermine the interests of a third party.

Hong said the U.S. side has repeatedly stated that it will not take sides on territory disputes between China and Japan.

He said the U.S. side “should not send out signals that conflict with each other.” He expressed the hope that the U.S. side would “proceed from the general situation of peace and stability of the region”, “keep its words” and “do more things that are conducive to peace and stability in the region.”

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The islands were part of Chinese territory with an indigenous people that accepted vassalship under the Chinese Emperor until the 8 Foreign Powers invasion and later Japanese expansion in WW1 and 2. USA should understand that sovereignty loss during war cannot have legal continuity under occupiers or aggressors when the war ends. How would USA like for the Native Ameri-Indians to kick them back to Europe?

ARTICLE 2

Ooh Baby It’s a Wild World – by Daniel J. Flynn on 11.30.12 @ 6:08AM

It’s a jungle out there for transanimals.

The humans called Dennis Avner “Stalking Cat.” His kind referred to him as “meow.”

The cat-like Avner, who held the Guinness Book of World Records mark for body modifications — including a bifurcated lip, extensive tiger-stripe facial tattooing, surgically pointed ears, and silicone injections in the cheeks, chin, and forehead — died earlier this month.

The human authorities suspect he killed himself. I suspect humans, threatened that one of their own had defected to the cat community, killed him.

Human nature, alien to Stalking Cat, remains quite familiar with suicide. The dearth of documented cases of self-inflicted felicide raises suspicions. Only an Ace Ventura could definitively answer this whodunit. The one certainty here is that it’s a jungle out there for a person who realizes he, she, or it is an animal trapped in a human’s body.

Dennis Avner never found acceptance among mankind as a felid despite the plastic surgeries, the tattoos, and the silicone injections. He was, in a loose sense, a real-life Philip Nolan — a manimal without a species.

Biology is the new racism. The phobia against transanimals recalls the societal obstinacy regarding transgenders. We exiled them to the “third bathroom,” inscribed pesky reminders of their physiology on their driver’s licenses, and imprisoned them with criminals of the opposite gender. Some men still won’t consider dating a woman who was born a “man” — whatever that antiquated designation means. One surmises that Stalking Cat encountered similar prejudices among potential dating partners of all sexes and species.

Society’s rejection of transanimals results in their rejection of themselves. When a man splits his tongue, amputates his arms, and fuses his legs together to realize his inner serpent, society calls him crazy, a freak, and troubled — instead of what he is: a snake. We will become as sane as they are only when we finally see transanimals as they see themselves.

All this recalls the dark ages when we denied that one biologically born a male who surgically remade herself as female was as much a woman as your mother. Dennis Avner was as much a cat as Chastity Bono is a man.

Yet, many landlords won’t rent to transanimals. Their contracts stipulate “no pets.” Restaurants still post “no dogs allowed” signs. Public parks demand that you keep animals on a leash. Dennis Avner served in the Navy. But he did so in the form of a human being. The ban on transspecies soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines persists despite the obvious intimidation factor that a battalion of tiger-men would impose on the enemy.

What was Stalking Cat supposed to make of the many restrictions, formal and informal, that civilization imposed upon his wild spirit?

Transanimals face a gross double standard vis-à-vis transgenders. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services decrees that the Affordable Care Act forbids discrimination against transgendered patients within federally funded programs. U.S. District Judge Mark Wolf, a Reagan appointee, has ordered Massachusetts taxpayers to fund gender reassignment surgery for Michelle Kosilek, an inmate convicted of murdering his wife after she caught him in her clothes. Sixteen state governments find a compelling interest in forbidding employers from taking into account a man’s metamorphosis into a woman, or vice versa, when hiring and firing.

By what logic do these states, the federal judge, and HHS, which prohibit discrimination based on gender identity, then permit discrimination based on animal identity?

In fits of self-absolution, tormentors conveniently maintain that the extinction of Stalking Cat, along with a transgender suicide rate 25 times the general population’s, proves that self-mutilation begins a slow self-destruction that ends in one’s ultimate destruction. Society has dysphoria over sexual, and species, dysphoria. We lose some of our humanity when we don’t extend it to gharials, capybaras, and narwhals. Cats are people too.

Mourn Dennis Avner’s tragic demise. But celebrate the miracle of his longevity. While most house cats survive to about 15, Stalking Cat lived to 54. If you last that many years more, you will surely meet others of his kind.

It’s a bestial domain we inhabit. Or, as Cat Stevens — no relation to Stalking Cat — told us, “Ooh baby, baby it’s a wild world.” It’s getting wilder.

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Cat Steven became a Muslim. Please don’t use Cat Stevens (now aka Yusuf Islam) as an example if you value your NLP-free/’accidental-proselytization-neutrality’ credentials Daniel. People might wind up thinking you’re a subverted Xian fronting for Muslets hiding behind the controversial topic of bestiality.

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4 Bodies Found Face-Down Outside California House – by DAISY NGUYEN Associated Press – LOS ANGELES December 2, 2012 (AP)

The bodies of four people who had been shot to death were found face-down Sunday outside a suburban Southern California home that apparently served as an unlicensed boarding house, authorities said.

Los Angeles police were seeking a motive for the attacks at the house in Northridge, in the San Fernando Valley.

Lt. Terri Brinkmeyer said a 911 call led police to the large house around 4:30 a.m. Cmdr. Andrew Smith said the bodies of two men and two women were found face-down on a side yard of the property.

Investigators were questioning several people who were on the property at the time of the shooting, but no one has been detained or arrested.

Los Angeles City Councilman Mitchell Englander, who represents the area, said the house was split into several units for rent. He said at least a dozen people lived in the house, which contained several bedrooms, kitchenettes and mattresses on the floor.

“It appears from the nature of things that this was an unlicensed boarding facility,” Englander said from the crime scene. He noted that one bedroom was only accessible through a window.

The house was on street lined with houses, schools and places of worship.

“This is a very safe neighborhood. This type of thing doesn’t normally happen here,” Englander said.

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Places of worship is the keyword here perhaps. Fundo alert. Or religion contrived sense of entitlement that caused strife with possible secularists.

ARTICLE 3

‘Asperger’s disorder’ being dropped from psychiatrists’ diagnostic guide by Lindsey Tanner, The Associated Press

CHICAGO — The now familiar term “Asperger’s disorder” is being dropped. And abnormally bad and frequent temper tantrums will be given a scientific-sounding diagnosis called DMDD. But “dyslexia” and other learning disorders remain.

The revisions come in the first major rewrite in nearly 20 years of the diagnostic guide used by the nation’s psychiatrists. Changes were approved Saturday.

Full details of all the revisions will come next May when the American Psychiatric Association’s new diagnostic manual is published, but the impact will be huge, affecting millions of children and adults worldwide. The manual also is important for the insurance industry in deciding what treatment to pay for, and it helps schools decide how to allot special education.

This diagnostic guide “defines what constellations of symptoms” doctors recognize as mental disorders, said Dr. Mark Olfson, a Columbia University psychiatry professor. More important, he said, it “shapes who will receive what treatment. Even seemingly subtle changes to the criteria can have substantial effects on patterns of care.”

Olfson was not involved in the revision process. The changes were approved Saturday in suburban Washington, D.C., by the psychiatric association’s board of trustees.

The aim is not to expand the number of people diagnosed with mental illness, but to ensure that affected children and adults are more accurately diagnosed so they can get the most appropriate treatment, said Dr. David Kupfer. He chaired the task force in charge of revising the manual and is a psychiatry professor at the University of Pittsburgh.

One of the most hotly argued changes was how to define the various ranges of autism. Some advocates opposed the idea of dropping the specific diagnosis for Asperger’s disorder. People with that disorder often have high intelligence and vast knowledge on narrow subjects but lack social skills. Some who have the condition embrace their quirkiness and vow to continue to use the label.

And some Asperger’s families opposed any change, fearing their kids would lose a diagnosis and no longer be eligible for special services.

But the revision will not affect their education services, experts say.

The new manual adds the term “autism spectrum disorder,” which already is used by many experts in the field. Asperger’s disorder will be dropped and incorporated under that umbrella diagnosis. The new category will include kids with severe autism, who often don’t talk or interact, as well as those with milder forms.

Kelli Gibson of Battle Creek, Mich., who has four sons with various forms of autism, said Saturday she welcomes the change. Her boys all had different labels in the old diagnostic manual, including a 14-year-old with Asperger’s.

“To give it separate names never made sense to me,” Gibson said. “To me, my children all had autism.”

Three of her boys receive special education services in public school; the fourth is enrolled in a school for disabled children. The new autism diagnosis won’t affect those services, Gibson said. She also has a 3-year-old daughter without autism.

People with dyslexia also were closely watching for the new updated doctors’ guide. Many with the reading disorder did not want their diagnosis to be dropped. And it won’t be. Instead, the new manual will have a broader learning disorder category to cover several conditions including dyslexia, which causes difficulty understanding letters and recognizing written words.

The trustees on Saturday made the final decision on what proposals made the cut; recommendations came from experts in several work groups assigned to evaluate different mental illnesses.

The revised guidebook “represents a significant step forward for the field. It will improve our ability to accurately diagnose psychiatric disorders,” Dr. David Fassler, the group’s treasurer and a University of Vermont psychiatry professor, said after the vote.

The shorthand name for the new edition, the organization’s fifth revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, is DSM-5. Group leaders said specifics won’t be disclosed until the manual is published but they confirmed some changes. A 2000 edition of the manual made minor changes but the last major edition was published in 1994.

Olfson said the manual “seeks to capture the current state of knowledge of psychiatric disorders. Since 2000 … there have been important advances in our understanding of the nature of psychiatric disorders.”

Catherine Lord, an autism expert at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York who was on the psychiatric group’s autism task force, said anyone who met criteria for Asperger’s in the old manual would be included in the new diagnosis.

One reason for the change is that some states and school systems don’t provide services for children and adults with Asperger’s, or provide fewer services than those given an autism diagnosis, she said.

Autism researcher Geraldine Dawson, chief science officer for the advocacy group Autism Speaks, said small studies have suggested the new criteria will be effective. But she said it will be crucial to monitor so that children don’t lose services.

Other changes include:

—A new diagnosis for severe recurrent temper tantrums — disruptive mood dysregulation disorder. Critics say it will medicalize kids’ who have normal tantrums. Supporters say it will address concerns about too many kids being misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder and treated with powerful psychiatric drugs. Bipolar disorder involves sharp mood swings and affected children are sometimes very irritable or have explosive tantrums.

—Eliminating the term “gender identity disorder.” It has been used for children or adults who strongly believe that they were born the wrong gender. But many activists believe the condition isn’t a disorder and say calling it one is stigmatizing. The term would be replaced with “gender dysphoria,” which means emotional distress over one’s gender. Supporters equated the change with removing homosexuality as a mental illness in the diagnostic manual, which happened decades ago.

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People are weird and different. The Victorian Era destroyed LGBT and butchered half the world’s indigenous cultures, many of which were LGBT friendly. The Victorian Era also propagated Christianity, which subsumed and destroyed many native faiths as well as subverted many world citizens into colonial mindsets that still persist this day. The English were expelled from the USA, sadly the Christian faith still is afflicting many populations worldwide. The English incidentally were the Angles, a group of GERMANIC outcasts that murdered the Celtic and Nordic cultures of the Isles, occupied thier lands, and butchered all the way through Africa, India and later China destroying lives, cultures and native religions for mere ‘paganism’ (those who didn’t want to belive in ‘god’ were heathens and ‘soulless’ needed to be murdered in those days . . . no end.

ARTICLE 4

Onion: We just fooled the Chinese government! – by the CNN Wire Staff – November 28, 2012 — Updated 1015 GMT (1815 HKT)

Onion editor: Tricking China has a “certain delightfulness”
A Chinese news site takes an Onion satire for a real story
The Onion declares North Korean leader Kim Jong Un “sexiest man alive”
People’s Daily Online runs portions of the Onion story and 55 photos of Kim

(CNN) — China, as one Twitter user wrote Tuesday, has been fooled by the “mysterious Western art of satire.”

The merciless comedy website The Onion has declared North Korean leader Kim Jong Un the “sexiest man alive for 2012.” And it appears China’s People’s Daily Online has taken the story seriously.

“I love this one,” Onion editor Will Tracy told CNN. “It has a certain delightfulness to it.”

The Chinese story reprinted satirical comments describing Kim’s “air of power that masks an unmistakable cute, cuddly side,” his “impeccable fashion sense, chic short hairstyle, and,” the story says, “that famous smile.”
A Chinese state-run site was fooled Tuesday by a satirical story that declared North Korea\’s Kim Jong Un the \
A Chinese state-run site was fooled Tuesday by a satirical story that declared North Korea’s Kim Jong Un the “sexiest man alive.”

The story on People’s Daily Online on Tuesday illustrates the mutual backscratching that China and North Korea exercise through their government-run media. The incident also shows foreign media outlets’ difficulty in navigating The Onion’s brand of satire.

The Chinese website had underscored its story by including its own 55-page photo gallery to accompany the text, which was published in both English and Chinese. But the pages and the images were no longer available Wednesday.

A woman responding to a call Wednesday to the office of the website said it was “impossible that the People’s Daily will quote from any unreliable media — we do verify our news and sources.”

The woman, who declined to identify herself, noted that the item had been removed.

The People’s Daily Online has a separate office from the print version of the Chinese Communist Party’s main newspaper.

Tracy said he’s not surprised when legitimate news sites fall for his high-level tomfoolery, but this was the first time The Onion had named a “sexiest man alive.” “We knew it would get a response,” he said “but we didn’t expect it would get life from abroad.”

A satirical post on The Onion congratulated the People’s Daily for its coverage.

The site “has served as one of the Onion’s Far East bureaus for quite some time, and I believe their reportage as of late has been uncommonly fine, as well as politically astute,” said The Onion’s Grant Jones in a e-mail statement. “May our felicitous business association continue for centuries to come.”

Earlier Tuesday, The Onion pointed readers to the Chinese website: “please visit our friends at the People’s Daily in China, a proud Communist subsidiary of The Onion, Inc. Exemplary reportage, comrades.”

Twitter users went wild over the editorial faux pas. “It makes me cry from another room!” Tweeted Francesca Ulivi @fraubass.

“Not sure they know this was a joke,” wrote @loweringthebar.

“Curse of the #Onion again,” said Colin Freeman @colinfreeman99.

Yes. Again. If this scenario sounds familiar it’s because The Onion is no stranger to fooling government-run news outlets.

In September, an Onion satire fooled Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency. Fars published an Onion story claiming that a Gallup poll found that rural white Americans preferred Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad over President Barack Obama.

On the Chinese microblog Sina Weibo, netizens made their own teasing comments about People’s Daily.

“Foolish foreigners, the party paper was born to be funny,” wrote @sheldon-BaiBai.

“The world was fooled by the People’s Daily, because no Chinese believes this paper,” wrote @Hai_Dao_Wu_Bian.

The Onion never writes its stories with the intention of fooling government agencies, Tracy said. But “it’s great when it happens. We hope it happens more often.”

This prank, he said with obvious glee, may turn out to be the legendary Onion fake story that veterans will talk about for years to come. “We essentially just fooled the government of China.”

CNN’s Jethro Mullen and CY Xu contributed to this report.

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Remember the boy who cried wolf? And if this is intended to harrass the foreign media, The Onion is just inviting the Chinese to do the same to foreign media portals. If this becomes rampant, then news on the internet will become rubbish or manipulative unreadable agenda laden nonsesne, and the MSM papers which will still remain propaganda, become more influencial and manipulative of the citizens locally until the dark pre-info-ages take hold again through sheer contrivedness and agenda loaded inaccuracy of articles. The Onion is opening a can of worms that could down all online media or online media accuracy if not careful . . . If the CNN, BBC and Peoples Daily or whatever online media do not remain strictly accurate in reporting, above the fray of b.s., the world will be poorer for the lack of ethics for preference of manipulation to bad ends.

ARTICLE 5

Don’t name your kid Siri – by Dean Obeidallah, Special to CNN – December 2, 2012 — Updated 0502 GMT (1302 HKT)

Sometimes a highly individualistic name for a baby is not good news for a kid, says Dean Obeidallah

Dean Obeidallah: A new list of popular 2012 baby names includes Siri, Mac, Luna
He says it’s not just celebrities with offbeat baby-naming now; it’s spreading to the rest of us
He says studies show distinctive names can spur teasing and mistreatment
Obeidallah: Parents, think twice on names; it could have long-term effect on your child

Editor’s note: Dean Obeidallah, a former attorney, is a political comedian and frequent commentator on various TV networks including CNN. He is the editor of the politics blog “The Dean’s Report” and co-director of the upcoming documentary “The Muslims Are Coming!” Follow him on Twitter: @deanofcomedy

(CNN) — Siri, Mars, Mac and Luna. I’m not talking Apple products or planetary terms. These are baby names. And not just any baby names but ones that have jumped in popularity in 2012, according to Baby Center.com’s just released list.

Baby Siri? Seriously, who would name their bundle of joy after a frustrating Apple product that hardly ever works? And speaking of Apple (see daughter of Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin,) that name moved up a whopping 585 places on the list of names for girls born in 2012. So there could conceivably be a family out there with a daughter named Apple and a son named Siri. (Hope that entitles the family to a discount on an iMac.)

There was a time when bizarre baby naming was something only celebrities did to their kids (as if being the child of a celebrity wasn’t challenging enough). There’s Beyonce and Jay Z’s Blue Ivy, Penn Jillette’s son, Moxie Crimefighter, Bono’s daughter Memphis Eve, actor Jason Lee’s son Pilot Inspektor, and the list goes on and on.

But now this “condition” is apparently spreading to the rest of us. In addition to the offbeat names above, 2011 saw babies sporting such names as: Moo, Draper, Graceland and Tequila.

There are even media reports that this past weekend some parents allegedly named their newborn daughter, Hashtag. That one may turn out to be an Internet hoax, but after last year’s story of a child in Egypt being named Facebook (in praise of the role Facebook played in the Egyptian revolution), we can’t be too far from babies named Retweet and Spam Blocker anyway. It truly is only a matter of time until you meet a kid named DVR or Playstation 3.
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Apparently some parents believe that giving their child a jaw-dropping name will make him or her more distinctive. News flash: it’s not the name that makes your child stand out, it’s his or her achievements.

While I don’t want to rain on creativity, let’s be honest — these weird names are more about parents showing off their “cleverness” than about finding a name that fits the child. It’s not like the parents got to know the child first for a few months and then said, “You know this baby really is a little Siri.”
Beyonce, Jay-Z welcome baby Blue Ivy
Jolie: We are all Malala

And do these parents even consider that a baby’s name can cause consequences for the child that the parents never imagined, and in many areas of the child’s life? When I reflect upon my own name, I realize that my life could have been far different if my parents had followed their initial instincts when naming me.

My Palestinian father wanted to name me Saladin after the famous Muslim leader, while my Sicilian mother wanted to name me Dino. Instead they compromised on Dean.

Growing up in North Jersey, Dean was not a common name. But it actually made me feel different in a good way being the only Dean in my class. And even today in looking at the list of baby names for 2012, I was actually happy that Dean was not in the top 100.

Still, the truth is, if I’d been named Dino, I would have certainly been viewed as more ethnic by teachers, potential employers and co-workers. I would have been required to continually overcome cultural stereotypes.

And if I’d been named the very Arabic Saladin Obeidallah, you could just imagine all the “fun” I would have had in post-9/11 America. I would have likely volunteered for “random” security checks at the airport to make it easier for all involved or simply got used to taking the bus cross country.

But there’s a difference between a name that isn’t overly common and naming your child after your favorite appliance. A name is a big part of a kid’s identity. It can trigger impressions about a child even before we meet him or her — a particular problem among the closed-minded of the world, but this is the world your child will have to navigate.

For example, studies have found that children with names that linguistically sound like they come from a lower socioeconomic status are less likely to be recommended by school officials for gifted classes and actually more likely to be labeled as learning disabled.

Other research has revealed that boys with feminine sounding names — such as Shannon or Ashley — have had more disciplinary problems in school because of their response to teasing. Still other studies have found a link between how much people like their own names and their level of self-esteem.

So, parents, keep in mind that your choice of name will have a lasting impact on your child — both for good and bad. And if you insist on picking a bizarre name for the baby, then I propose that your child be empowered to rename you with any name he or she chooses. At least then it’s fair that a child named Hashtag has parents named Angry Birds and YouTube.

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In the past there were in some cultures NAMING CEREMONIES AT ADULTHOOD. The child would choose a name LATER, and all children knew their names when young were TEMPORARY and that parents chose those names. Sometimes what the child did that was most unique would also decide what that child was RENAMED at adulthood. So ‘Hashtag’ away and legalise/normalise name changing at the age of 21. Knowing that names are temporary and chosen by parents, kids would not be affected by teasing because they knew they were going to change that name, or the teasers would not bother to tease knowing the name would also change by then.

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‘If it was offensive then God wouldn’t have given us genitals’: Naked jogger wins High Court appeal after conviction – by Eddie Wrenn – PUBLISHED: 11:29 GMT, 3 December 2012 | UPDATED: 12:06 GMT, 3 December 2012

Shocked complainant said she would never walk her dog in Oropi Park, New Zealand, again
Andrew Pointon, 47, was charged with offensive behaviour for his naked runs
But appeal judge agrees that naked body by itself is not offensive

Freedom to jog naked: Andrew Lyall Pointon, 47, won his appeal against offensive behaviour (stock picture)

The right to go jogging in the nude has been upheld by the High Court in New Zealand.

Andrew Lyall Pointon, 47, was wearing only a pair of shoes when he was spotted by a woman while running at 8.30am in a forest near Tauranga in August last year.

She called police and he was arrested during another nude run.

Pointon was charged with offensive behaviour and found guilty in Tauranga District Court last December.

An appeal was thrown out in June, but a second appeal has just been upheld by Justice Paul Heath in the High Court at Tauranga.

‘If it was [offensive] then God wouldn’t have given us genitals,’ Mr Pointon told The Dominion Post.

‘It is a win for all libertarians and a setback for all conservatives in the country.’

The judge, Justice Heath, compared the situation to passing ‘gang members’ walking through the park.

He said: ‘It would not be surprising for a person in the position of the complainant to be concerned and discomforted by their presence, and even to feel threatened.

‘However, on any view, their behaviour would not be regarded as offensive behaviour.

‘Should the sight of a naked man, in the circumstances in which the complainant found herself, be treated any differently? I think not.’

He added that he felt Pointon was ‘a genuine naturist’ who had taken measures to avoid disturbing others – such as choosing a time when children would be unlikely to be on the track.

But Family First spokesman Bob McCoskrie said he was disappointed and said Justice Heath’s decision shows ‘double standards’.

He asked: ‘Is it okay for someone to streak through his courtroom? He’d be the first one to put them in the cells.’
Picturesque: The jogger was spotted close to Tauranga harbour in New Zealand

Picturesque: The jogger was spotted close to Tauranga harbour in New Zealand

Naturist Mr Pointon said he enjoyed the freedom of not wearing clothes and began running naked about 18 months ago.

The complainant, who was out walking her dog when she spotted Pointon, said she was so offended that she did not wish to ever return to the Oropi Bike Park.

But Pointon lashed out at the woman who complained.

He said: ‘It’s just ludicrous. Has this person got nothing better to do than wasting everyone’s time?

‘All she saw was a naked man running through the bush. It was just a fleeting moment, which has cost us all.

‘It just shows that it was a stupid decision by police to go ahead … and charge me for something totally irrelevant.’

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Perhaps a nudist’s track to keep the 2 different groups seperate.

ARTICLE 7

A Good Example of Forms and Blogospheres Littered with NLPs : 2012, I am tired – Topic started on 9-12-2012 @ 02:48 AM by TheAlmo – reply posted on 9-12-2012 @ 03:00 AM by xxshadowfaxx

I just want the date to come. Lots of mystery surround it, lots of theories, but no one knows a damn thing.

If anything is going to happen, its going to be something we haven’t seen before. Something the ancients tracked 25000 years ago. No one alive today can possibly know what it is. We don’t even know for sure if we have the right date. All the math is very precise and it seems that dec 21 is certainly a good possibility, but we may be off by hundreds of years. All we can do is wait and see.

Soon you won’t have to worry about it anymore because it is only 12 days away now. Whatever happens, happens, theres nothing anyone can do about it.

Also, its definitely possible to be love. Love is a state of being, and beneath all your problems, all your thoughts, is a state of love. When you can learn to silence the mind, and learn how to move energy through your chakras, you will find yourself in a state of love. It is beautiful to experience. All the people that talk about are trying to tell you something, and most of us ignore it completely. But the answers to all questions truely do lie within us. Once you be love, once you attain that state, you are given knowledge about who you are, what you are, and what your purpose is. You will experience the divine.

Commentator Response

I am tired you guys. Enough. This is insane.

The amount of 2012 topics on ATS and everywhere is staggering. It seems everyone takes a shot at it. Everyone. You guys turned the year 2012 into a prostitute year that everyone can buy and f*** for a while.

The problem is that I go through phases. Sometimes, I just really don’t pay attention at all and I don’t even try to rationalize or criticize the material I am exposed to. Other times, I find myself so angry about it and digging deep to find every logical fallacy there is. You know why this happens to me? Because:

1- My mood changes from time to time
2- The 2012 shower is an everlasting one that never ever stops.

Therefore, my reaction to the eternal 2012 shower varies depending on my mood.

What do you mean when you say things like:

“The change is coming, embrace it”
“All you have to do is be love”

Why does it have to be so astonishingly ambiguous? Why?

What do you mean if I don’t “embrace” the change I won’t feel anything and December 21 will be just another day?

Can this lunacy get anymore vile and degrading to our intellect? I am sorry, but even the most spiritual practices can be “practicalized” if you know what I mean. You can ask me to actively stop thinking about people that I hate or that I even hate them. I can do that. But what do you mean when you say “Be Love”? How can someone be love? Can you be Batman? A sandwich? I don’t know. Be love? Embrace change? This all reminds me of an incident when I was a kid walking by a public swimming pool and a guy was teaching his 6-ish years old son to swim by saying: maintain your balance… don’t drown.

Yeah… the best thing to say to tell someone who’s drowning: yell at them: don’t drown. dude, not cool, you’re gonna die, maintain your balance. work physics to make it happen.

I am tired of this nonsensical spiritual masturbation.

What about doom and gloom?

Are you gonna tell me where to go? What to do? Or just scream around and run all over the place like a fuc*** moron? What? No place to go? Nothing to do? Where is the warning then? It’s not like you’re gonna say “told you so” later.

I am tired of this. It’s too much. It’s everywhere. Everywhere I go.

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Thats the problem with the people. The laws written cause this, so vote for a candidate not of the 1% (plutocrat or political nepotist) or run as candidate yourself if there is no such candidate. Write and ratify laws to distribute national wealth and unused national land (the country belongs to all citizens so why should a handful of GLC cronies get everything, even the land and wealth from natural resources belong to the people and must be shared to reserved for a handful of politicians who can be easily identified if mega-wealthy), and end the raison d’etre for NLP articles. This way there will be enough harmony so that the world need not end, or if the world ends, everyone was happy anyway.

ARTICLE 8

How The Cost of a Degree is Now £100,000 – Posted on December 9, 2012 by Zen-Haven – Author: Paul Gallagher

The true cost of a university degree will rocket to up to £100,000 for today’s students, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.

Thousands of people currently studying at university will end up paying that amount over their career because of interest charges and other fees – several times the £27,000 or £36,000 in fees that most three- and four-year courses charge.

The landmark figure, revealed in the Government’s own documents, is far higher than the £70,000 in repayments that it was previously thought students would end up paying over their lifetimes. The Government figures confirm that graduates who find well-paid jobs – in finance and law, for example – will be able to save tens of thousands of pounds by paying off their loans more quickly than the vast majority of their counterparts on middle incomes.

Even before they started in September, every student was hit with a hidden charge: for repayment purposes, the total cost of tuition is backdated to day one, meaning that the majority of the 300,000 three-year students and 117,000 four-year students currently studying will graduate with an extra £3,300 or £5,000 bill respectively, according to the Department for Business Innovation and Skills (BIS) website. Many students will repay up to four times the cost of their tuition during the 30 years following graduation, after which any remaining debt is written off.

Add in other living costs and average student debt is now predicted to hit £53,000 by graduation. Accountants say billions of pounds of student debt will never be repaid, leaving “a massive tax time bomb” for generations to come.

Based on the Government’s figures, almost 300,000 students – 70 per cent of those studying – who started university in the autumn will repay between £65,000 and £85,000, while those in the highest income bracket pay back less because they will start to pay off their debts sooner. About 10 per cent who are in the “squeezed middle” could end up paying back between £85,000 and £100,000. The 20 per cent of graduates with the lowest lifetime earnings (a group dominated by women) will never come close to repaying their fees and the debt will be written off after 30 years.

The Government’s own projections lay out details of what students and graduates would owe at the start of each year in interest and repayment charges. What graduates pay back each month depends on their earnings: 9 per cent of income above £21,000 a year, independent of both the interest rate and the size of the loan. The amount due increases with time because interest is added. A 28-year-old male beginning a three-year course and whose starting salary of £21,000 quickly rises to £60,000 in year four, and is a six-figure salary by year 15, will settle his bill in 13 years, repaying just over £42,000. A woman who earns less than a third of that in her lifetime and who begins work a few years after graduating repays almost £62,000 over 28 years. A woman in her twenties who earns less than £1m in her career and takes time out to have a family will pay back less than £20,000, leaving an unpaid debt of almost £60,000. Scottish students in Scotland have their fees paid, while students in Northern Ireland pay a maximum £3,575 a year tuition.

Peter West, financial director at Portal, a computer company in Bracknell, Berkshire, said: “No one is aware of the long-term implications of this accounting wheeze. Higher education reform is a victimless crime and a massive tax time bomb. The Government has simply shifted all the debt off the accounting sheet for now – but, my God, will it come back and hit us in 30 years’ time.”

Susan Cooper, professor of experimental physics from the University of Oxford, said: “If the £21,000 repayment threshold doesn’t increase with inflation, the requirement for repayment can become much more onerous over the 30-year period. And maybe the 30 years could be increased as well. The higher the costs, the more the Government has to write off 30 years later. One could have wished for a more thorough thinking through of the consequences before being launched into this experiment.”

The University and College Union general secretary, Sally Hunt, said: “The Government rushed through higher fees without properly considering the financial consequences. We warned at the time that fees close to £9,000 a year would be the norm and that the calculations for repayment by graduates were flawed.”

A spokesperson for BIS said: “Extending the write-off period to 30 years was fully costed as part of the whole repayment system. The new system helps reduce the deficit, is affordable and sustainable for the Government, while offering protection for those who may not go on to high-paid employment.”

Chuka Umunna, Labour business spokesman, said: “Students will never forgive this government for hiking up the costs of going to university. This figures show that, as ever, it is middle- and lower-income families who are being hit hardest.”

The NUS president, Liam Burns, added: “It is shocking that politicians treat the potential of a generation before they have even started their working career with such nonchalance.”

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The problem is that the establishment (or NWO) has already decided which people friendly to the regime of the day will get the top jobs that can actually influence policy or social culture. So even before enrollment or payment, those who are not on the same wavelength of the Education-STUDENT-DEBT-Financiar Complex (nominlly fused with the dominant religious institutions of the region – if these are not insane or hated or indulging in pedophilia) had better not even bother with ‘Education’ and instead learn how to vote and educate others on how to vote. The system is stacked EVEN at  education level and hardly neutral. Identify this and act accordingly by refusing to spend anything on education. Free spirits beware, the mob mentality of society comprised with useless eaters only enriches the 1% term limitless plutocrats and political nepotists.

ARTICLE 9

Celebration of the Nudists of the 2010s : Ai Weiwei investigated over nude art – Chinese artist says he is under investigation for spreading pornography, after pictures including One Tiger Eight Breasts

Jonathan Watts in Beijing – The Guardian, Friday 18 November 2011 15.54 GMT

The Chinese artist Ai Weiwei poses with nude women in Beijing

Ai Weiwei and female nudists.

Ai Weiwei and female nudists.

Ai Weiwei is under investigation for spreading pornography, the Chinese artist has said, as the authorities turned their attention from political subversion and tax evasion to online images of nudity.

He said police had questioned his cameraman Zhao Zhao on Thursday over pictures Zhao had taken of the artist. “They clearly told him this is an investigation, now, they are doing on me, on pornography,” Ai told the AFP news agency.

One of the pictures, One Tiger Eight Breasts, shows Ai posing nude on a wooden chair flanked by four naked women who are giggling and smiling.

“Netizens came to take photos with me, so we said why don’t we take nudity photos, then everybody agreed so we did it and they were put on the internet, and that’s it, we forget about it,” Ai said.

This year Ai has been held for 81 days in a secret location, questioned about subversion and then accused of tax evasion and given a fine of 15m yuan. Several of his assistants have been detained for lengthy periods and interrogated about Ai’s political beliefs, business and personal life.

His lawyers say the investigations are politically motivated to silence Ai, who has used his high profile to speak out on police brutality, official corruption and human rights violations.

Police have been reluctant to discuss his case and there has been little or no coverage in most domestic media outlets. But the Communist party newspaper Global Times said on Wednesday that dissidents such as Ai could only exist because of the support of the west.

“For 30 years Ai Weiweis have emerged and fallen. But China has kept rising despite their pessimistic predictions. The real social trend is that they will be eliminated in the rising process of China,” said a comment article in the paper.

Ai has attempted to turn the tables by mounting an internet campaign against his accusers. He says 30,000 people contributed a total of more than 8m yuan to his online appeal for loans to challenge his tax fine.

A pornography or obscenity charge based on the pictures revealed so far is likely to incur ridicule and anger among Ai’s supporters. Many Chinese contemporary artists have appeared naked in their work.

Ai said police had previously questioned him about the images, but he doubted they understood art. “If they see nudity as pornography, then China is still in the Qing dynasty,” he told Associated Press.

Ai Weiwei with EVEN MORE nudists.

Ai Weiwei with EVEN MORE nudists. The CPCC and PLA need not fear this wall of human flesh led by a scruffy semi-geezer, fear is in the mind China!

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This is not for everyone BUT, this is an acid test of human rights and civil society. Hey frumpOs, if you had the aesthetic, you’d be as sex positive and body confident enough to use nakeness and beauty as weapons to shame the ugliness of society and the establishment instead of attacking nudism and snarking on morality. So stop victimising naked persons, that counts for MALE body parts too . . . so about a decade ago there was this activist who really didn’t know why until now . . . WHOS STILL WRITING TO END APARTHEID . . . Nudism is COURAGE and PETA is not exactly at the level of anti-apartheid activity.

PETA Nudists.

PETA Nudists.

Perhaps Nelson Mandela should visit Ai Weiwei and learn something missed, though this does not make for mainstream just yet but we early birds are the most well loved birds, so see Israeli women have taken a nude group photo to express solidarity with Aliaa Magda Elmahdy . . . and look at non-Muslims getting arrested for Khalwat in Muslim countries. Monyet dan Anjing! Hunga bunga! Bulaklak!

Duh.

QUOTE Lursa : ‘Human (nudist) females are so revolting . . . ‘ UNQUOTE – Star Trek Generations 1994, David Carson

Ladies, if you’re a Lursa or a B’etor everyone will understand why the preference to stay covered is there, BUT no understanding will be offered to those who hate on all of the above people who dare to be nudist or go nude for their cause. Same to the narrow gents. What’s YOUR cause Frumpos? Snarking at people who try to change the world? Who try to end apartheid? Who challenge status quo?

Nudists in Russia marching against Putin's 3rd term??? . . .

Nudists Nuns in Russia marching against Putin’s 3rd term??? . . .

The more ‘faithful’ they are the more brittle the faith . . . hence the term ‘cracker’ . . . so go hide your daughters and get out your shotguns. (this is intended to remind those without 2nd amendment rights to know how good hillbillies live in the USA, no other reason . . . ). Aight back to surfing porn and drinking horse, pork and beef flavoured beer . . .

Nudists in Paris.

Nudists in Paris.

Israeli Nudists for St.Alia.

Israeli Nudists for St.Alia.

Pussy Riot - Russia.

Pussy Riot – Russia.

Nudist Zones in China (at least zones exist . . .)

Nudist Zones in China (at least zones exist . . .)

This is not a nudist gathering but rather an English advert.

This is not a nudist gathering but rather an English advert.

So the next time someone is dressed like this, just keep the mouth shut. Bikini's are skimpier and even if out of context, nudism is not even sexual activity per se. The clothes on this woman are actually kinda wholesome, even with the neons . . .

So the next time someone is dressed like this, just keep that mouth shut. Bikini’s are skimpier and even if out of context, nudism is not even sexual activity per se. The clothes on this woman are actually kinda wholesome, even with the neons . . .

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Woman Has Baby At Upstate New York Zoo : There was no time to get the expectant mother to hospital after she suddenly went into labour on Friday. – 8:33pm UK, Saturday 08 December 2012 – Rosamond Gifford Zoo in Syracuse, New York

A New York state zoo has had a surprise visit – from the stork.

A woman went into labour on Friday and gave birth on a path at the Rosamond Gifford Zoo in Syracuse.

The 21-year-old woman, who was visiting the zoo with a group, had a baby girl with help from keepers not far from the bear exhibit.

Zoo worker Liz Schmidt told The Post-Standard that she heard about the situation and rushed to find the woman already pushing out the baby.

“I honestly didn’t expect her to deliver at the zoo,” Ms Schmidt said. “I thought we’d pop her in a wheelchair and she’d be good to go to the hospital.”

Other workers arrived with blankets to keep the mother and baby warm, and the zoo’s elephant expert herded away curious visitors.

An ambulance soon arrived to take the newborn to a hospital. A hospital representative declined to discuss the mother or baby’s medical conditions for privacy reasons.

Zoo Director Ted Fox said the attraction plans to send a gift to the family.

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Nice . . . so Penang gets another beast among their ranks what was being snatched? Zoo animals conceiving? Now we understand why cheaters never prosper and why (some) Asians REALLY do not have Human Souls. That which is not one’s may never belong by theft or strength in numbers, more so on the spiritual level. How about another invasion of the 3rd world before the pariahs get too strong. Those who play by the rules need not worry, by now most of the ‘invaders’ should be able to identify the whos who among pariahs and among the rich and politically connected are plenty of pariahs.

ARTICLE 10

Medvedev Makes Strange Off-Air Comments : The Russian prime minister expressed bizarre views on Father Christmas and aliens when the cameras were still rolling. – 9:43pm UK, Friday 07 December 2012

Dmitry Medvedev has been caught making some unusual comments off-air after failing to realise television cameras were still rolling.

The Russian prime minister let his guard down after an interview with five Russian television stations – offering his strange views on Father Christmas and aliens as well as taking a pot shot at President Vladimir Putin and the federal police.

“I believe in Father Frost. But not too deeply. But anyway, you know, I’m not one of those people who are able to tell the kids that Father Frost does not exist,” he said in a jovial reply to a question about Russia’s equivalent of Santa Claus.

He went on to take a jab at Mr Putin for his frequent lateness for meetings after he was more than hour late for an event in southern Russia.

“Colleagues, somebody should be extremely punctual, while somebody else is exhausting all the limits for being late,” he said.

The comments invited a satirical reaction on the Internet which is unlikely to help Mr Medvedev, whose power has been ebbing since Mr Putin took over as president.
RUSSIA-GOVERNMENT-POLITICS-MEDVEDEV The prime minister speaking to the TV stations that caught him off-air

In the interview itself, Mr Medvedev underlined his allegiance to the president in a likely bid to dismiss rumours he is about to be fired.

In an unexpected move, the liberal-leaning prime minister defended Kremlin-backed laws which critics say will be used to stifle dissent.

But in the off-air comments, he was more frank.

When a journalist complained about federal investigators arriving to search the home of a witness in an inquiry early in the morning, Mr Medvedev said: “They are just jerks, so they come at eight in the morning.

“It’s just their set of habits. I know many people who work in the police. They think if they come at seven in the morning they will get everything in the world.”

Another of the journalists asked whether the president is handed secret files on aliens when he receives the briefcase needed to activate Russia’s nuclear arsenal.

“Along with the briefcase with nuclear codes, the president of the country is given a special ‘top secret’ folder. This folder in its entirety contains information about aliens who visited our planet,” Mr Medvedev answered playfully.

“Along with this, you are given a report of the absolutely secret special service that exercises control over aliens on the territory of our country…

“More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called Men In Black… I will not tell you how many of them are among us because it may cause panic,” he said.

None of the television stations that interviewed Medvedev broadcast the off-air comments.

Russians mocked the prime minister on the internet.

“It’s sad when the former president and current prime minister of your country is simply a pathetic person,” Yekaterina Kudinova wrote on Twitter.

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Not strange at all but with the kind of Russian subtlty that bore Russia a Marx. Medvedev has a OCCULT (or Techno advanced derived) CONSCIENCE which could be tranlated into OCCULT (or Techno advanced derived) ETHICS which can translate into (or Techno advanced derived) MORALLY AFFLUENT LAWS. This is my strange response to Medvedev’s strange off air comments. Expositions on methodology will lead to spiritual cleanliness and less hive mindedness and less mob mindedness, these many headed “non-individuals” Medvedev is referring to are the true criminals of Humanity that need to have the worst happen to them.

A one-on-one between exes is not the same as mass parasitisation, and we all know where spiritual parasites are going, those who do not produce and only take, as “Useless Eaters” are bound for the Auswictzs’ of the future (and past). In other words, do your own work or (spiritual homework) and choose your fights carefully and with respect, millions of spirits will be seeking their payment for their untimely deaths and that will be the ‘hell’ everyone keeps talking about . . . vote Medevedev for the next Sec. Gen. of the UN and we might see a better world if Medevedev applies entirely such principles within the SPIRITUAL update of the UN Human Rights Charter. Here’s one for the morally affluent non-cops and non-parasites . . . lets shine a light on all degenerates who won’t even think for themselves . . .

ARTICLE 11

Rotting whale in Malibu likely left to nature – by RAQUEL MARIA DILLON | Associated Press

MALIBU, Calif. (AP) — No government agency is taking action to remove the decaying carcass of a whale on a California beach, making it appear the job will be left to Mother Nature.

The corpse of the huge fin whale created a spectacle on Friday as people wandered down the narrow Malibu beach to look at the remains — white bones, rolls of blubber and the tail flukes trailing along the water’s edge.

The homes of movie stars, celebrities and others line the cliffs high above the slender beach.

Looking over the whale, Malibu resident Ben Dossett suggested there was now no need to try to remove it.

“You look at the difference between what it was on Tuesday to what it is today. I think they can just leave it and let nature take its course,” he said.

The smell had largely faded away, but still attached to the shoes of those who came near. Some people took pictures, a boy poked the bones and dogs sniffed it.

“It’s really sad that this is my first time seeing a whale,” said Ingrid De La O, a Malibu resident. “It’s mind-boggling to see this immense huge thing that lives in the water.”

The 40-foot-long, 40,000-pound juvenile male washed ashore Monday near Point Dume, which marks the western end of Santa Monica Bay, about 30 miles west of downtown Los Angeles.

“From the evidence that we have so far, it appears that it was hit by a ship,” said Jonsie Ross, marine mammal coordinator for the California Wildlife Center.

James Respondek, a real estate agent who lives in the area, worried that the carcass would draw sharks that could pose a threat to his young daughter, who swims in the cove, and to his favorite surfing spot down the beach. He said he was frustrated that no agency would remove the carcass.

“There seems to be no readiness to take responsibility, to take action, just a lot of excuses. ‘I don’t have a boat, I don’t have the money, I don’t have the resources,’ they all told me,” he said.

Fin whales are endangered, and about 2,300 live along the West Coast. They’re the second-largest species of whale after blue whales and can grow up to 85 feet, weigh up to 80 tons and live to be 90 years old.

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Austerity leads to political caution? Cost saving and avoiding use of crony contractors (in this case whale cleaning crews companies which the government cleverly decided not to pay with taxpayer funds by, or where the links were so obvious they did not want to expose their political flank for) is good for the taxpayers and respect of tax fund access, and who knows a clever reference to Kim Schmidt that MSM should play on . . . the cleanup might cost a few thousand which could go to the starving or homeless, instead of  a crony company. The local bars could take a look at the below article btw, a potential money making and indirect clean up courtesy of the local oceanside bars, though killings of mostly endangered whales intentionally by ship owners should be very carefully watched for . . .

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‘Whale Skin’ Cocktail: London Bar Raided – A ‘Moby Dick’ cocktail allegedly containing illegal whale skin is removed from a trendy Hoxton bar’s menu after a police raid. – 9:43am UK, Sunday 09 December 2012

There is a Europe-wide ban on the sale of whale meat

A London bar has been raided by police for allegedly serving cocktails flavoured with illegal whale skin.

The Metropolitan police targeted the Nightjar bar in Hoxton, East London, where a drink called the Moby Dick was listed in an online menu.

It was described as containing Laphroaig whisky, Drambuie, ale and bitters, along with a “whale skin infusion”.

There is a Europe-wide ban on the sale of whale meat and products, except under strict restrictions in Greenland and Denmark.

Police were tipped-off in October that the bar was serving whale skin illegally, and raided the City Road premises on December 3.

It was carried out by officers from the Met’s Wildlife Crime Unit and an officer from the United Kingdom Border Force.

“One item from the premises was seized,” said a police spokesman. “This has been sent for analysis.”

No arrests have been made.

No-one from the bar was available for comment, however the Sunday Times reported that the bar’s management was unaware the drink may have contained an illegal ingredient until the raid.

The drink no longer appears on the bar’s online menu.

'Muktuk' Whaleskin, fresh from Kenai Peninsula, Soldotna, Alaska.

‘Muktuk’ Whaleskin, fresh from Kenai Peninsula, Soldotna, Alaska.

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Mix, shake it cold and pour into an icecube-filled highball glass, top with soda. Drop the soda and use a smaller glass with crushed ice to get a fuller taste. Drape whale skin on edge.

INGREDIENTS

2 1/2 parts Dark rum
1/2 part Galliano
1 part Triple sec
3 parts Lemon juice
2 parts 7-up
wedge of Lemon
whale skin infusion

ARTICLE 12

I wanted to burn down the hospital that let my husband die like a battery hen: MP’s heartbreaking account of NHS neglect – by Frances Hardy – PUBLISHED: 00:50 GMT, 8 December 2012 | UPDATED: 10:28 GMT, 8 December 2012

Owen Roberts was an Oxford graduate, a man of dazzling intellect and gentle wit, who met Ann when they were both young broadcast journalists

Ann Clwyd had presumed that when her husband was admitted to a flagship teaching hospital, the staff charged with caring for him would do just that. It was not an outrageous assumption.

She did not imagine that he would die ‘like a battery hen’, squashed against the bars of his bed.

She did not anticipate that he would deteriorate catastrophically because, she feels, those entrusted to look after him were guilty of ‘indifference, contempt and callousness’.

She had expected that her gentle and genial husband, Owen Roberts, who suffered from multiple sclerosis, would be accorded care and kindness.

Instead, six weeks ago, he died, aged 73, of pneumonia he had contracted while at the University Hospital of Wales, in Cardiff, as she sat helpless at his side.

This week, Ann, 75, the Labour MP for Cynon Valley, and a redoubtable campaigner for the rights of the oppressed, steeled herself to make her private grief public.

She did so not for political aggrandisement but to try to spare others similar suffering.

Ann spoke out shortly after Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt admitted that poor standards of care are one of the biggest problems facing the NHS; that in the worst cases, hospital staff are overseeing ‘a kind of normalisation of cruelty’.

And she wept in the House of Commons this week when she asked the Prime Minister what he intended to do about nurses who fail to show compassion for their patients.

When I met her in her parliamentary office later, she was composed and softly-spoken. Occasionally her eyes blurred with tears, but aside from grief, the emotion that overwhelms her is a quiet, simmering fury.

‘I felt it in the hospital,’ she says. ‘I can’t really remember what happened immediately after Owen died — it’s a blur — but I do remember my anger. Owen did not die from MS. He died from hospital-acquired pneumonia, and from lack of care and attention.

‘I’m still angry, and the anger gets fiercer. I think at one point I felt I’d like to burn down the hospital.

‘I know that people meet in rooms and discuss things and promise it will never happen again. But you know very well that it does. Again and again.

‘Owen was a tall man, 6ft 2in, and he died cramped and squashed against the bars of his bed like a battery hen. He had an oxygen mask that didn’t fit properly and cut into his chin. When I asked for a better fitting one, they said, “Oh, we don’t think so”.

Almost every request I made was ignored or dismissed. His lips were very dry and I couldn’t understand why nobody was moistening them. I used my own lip salve on them.

‘I saw a nurse in the corridor and asked her why my husband wasn’t in intensive care. She just said, “There are lots worse than him”, and walked on.

‘Previously, I had asked another nurse if a doctor had seen him that day, and she said: “No, but we know what to do.”

To me, that meant “We’ll do nothing”. It was almost as if someone, somewhere, had decided they weren’t going to do anything more for Owen, although he was obviously very ill.
Six weeks ago, Owen Roberts died, aged 73, of pneumonia he had contracted while at the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff, pictured

Six weeks ago, Owen Roberts died, aged 73, of pneumonia he had contracted while at the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff, pictured

‘He was very cold, because a patient in the next bed had a fan that was blowing cold air over him and Owen had only thin cotton blankets on his bed.

‘There was no one observing him. You ask yourself: “Where is everyone? Where are the nurses? Why is no one doing anything?”

‘You kick yourself that you didn’t stand in the corridor and scream, but when you’re an MP, you’re concerned about throwing your weight around. And you think, “I’m in a specialist hospital, with people who’ve been professionally trained” — and you assume they know what they’re doing.

‘But a basic element of good care was missing: compassion.

‘Owen lived with great dignity and fortitude, but when he died, he was treated with contempt. And I believe the fact that the nurses and doctors failed in their duty of care contributed to his death.’

Owen Roberts was an Oxford graduate, a man of dazzling intellect and gentle wit, who met Ann when they were both young broadcast journalists. He went on to become a distinguished director and producer on Welsh television.

They had no children and Ann entered politics — and became MP for her Welsh constituency in 1984. She later became Tony Blair’s special envoy on human rights in Iraq.

When Owen died in October, they had been married for 49 years.
Ann Clwyd was the UK special envoy for Human Rights in Iraq from 2003 to 2010. She is pictured during a visit to the Welsh Guards in Iraq

For 30 years he had suffered from MS, but had borne adversity with courage. Two years ago, in 2010, he fractured his leg in a fall and had a partial hip replacement, which left him confined to a wheelchair. But he lived at home in South Wales with Ann, who combined her parliamentary duties with looking after him.

He was ‘spirited, aware and intellectually curious’ and had enjoyed a visit from an old friend, an Oxford professor, just days before he collapsed on October 10 and was taken to hospital by ambulance.

At the hospital, Owen was allocated a bed in an open area of the A&E department, near the nurses’ station. Ann was told he would be kept in for observation, but she did not want to leave him until she had established that he would be sent to a ward.

She recalls: ‘Every time I tried to talk to one of the nurses, they were either on the phone or talking to one another. I know they were busy, but it did not explain how they could completely ignore a patient.

‘Whenever I asked when we’d see someone, the answer was always: “In a minute.” There was busy-ness, laughter, joking?…?but nobody addressed our concerns.

‘A doctor arrived with a tick list. He was brusque, arrogant and rude — he didn’t even introduce himself. When I asked, “What’s your name?”, he looked at me as if I’d said something impertinent. After he’d asked his questions, he just went off.

‘All this time, I hadn’t been offered a chair or a word of explanation. I’d expected at least some reassurance. But it was as if the nurses were in their little world. There was a feeling of total isolation’

Faced with this, Ann sent a text message to her PA, begging her to ask for help on her behalf.

Two-and-a-half hours later, a doctor arrived and assured her that Owen would be sent to a respiratory ward. Ann duly went home — but 24 hours later, her husband was still in A&E.

Meanwhile, Ann became ill herself, with a chest infection, and was unable to visit her husband — who’d now, finally, been transferred to a ward — for fear of infecting him and other patients.

Instead, friends and family popped in every day and she sought reports on his condition by phone. Often, she was thwarted. ‘I’d be told his nurse wasn’t there, or was on a tea break. I asked to speak to him on the phone, but they told me it was a facility they didn’t offer.’
The MP wept in the House of Commons this week when she asked the Prime Minister what he intended to do about nurses who fail to show compassion for their patients

The MP wept in the House of Commons this week when she asked the Prime Minister what he intended to do about nurses who fail to show compassion for their patients

Owen was diagnosed with sleep apnoea, a treatable disorder characterised by abnormal pauses in breathing during sleep. He was, Ann was told, to be given a mask to wear at night to help regularise his breathing. It never materialised.

However, she spoke on the phone to a staff nurse, who offered a hopeful and cheering prognosis, predicting that Owen should be able to return home the following week.

The next day, however, Ann had a call from a consultant, telling her that he was very worried. “We think he’s got pneumonia,” he said.

‘I was stunned; panicked. I rushed in with my niece, and they told me he was not responding to antibiotics.’ Owen’s condition deteriorated sharply. Ann recalls the eight hours she spent at his bedside on the day before he died, on October 23.

‘I took in a catalogue of shirts and ties that had arrived in the post because he loved colourful ties and I thought he’d find it a bit of a joke. I showed it to him and he said, in Welsh, “Tomorrow”. It was the last word he said to me.’

‘I sat by his bed and he was breathing with his oxygen mask on. One of his eyes was inflamed and watering, so I asked for a nurse to wipe it. But no one came. So I got a tissue from my bag.

‘I sat at his bedside from 2.30pm until 10.30pm and, as far as I recall, no one said anything to us. No one asked me if I wanted a cup of tea. It was as if I was invisible.

‘There was one ward round, and I stood in a corridor while they pulled the curtains around Owen’s bed. They were gone in a flash, and I’ve no idea what went on.

‘I tried to reassure him, so that he didn’t feel abandoned. He was very cold — as he had been all the time he was in hospital. I put red socks on him — he always liked red socks — and I sat and held his hand.’

When Ann returned home, she texted a friend: ‘No doctor has been since this morning. Very few nurses around either. Not very happy with the set-up.’ That night, she slept fitfully for a few hours, and was called back to the hospital at 5?am.

‘I was in a state of shock. I got dressed very quickly and put on a red coat that Owen loved.

‘My neighbour Geraldine came with me, and when we got there and found Owen’s knee squashed against the side bars of the bed. We pushed a pillow in between to make him more comfortable. His feet were sticking out of the end of the bed and he was cold. Geraldine got a towel and put it over his feet.

‘I’d once got a bill through parliament to improve the welfare of battery hens, and I remember thinking he looked so cramped and squashed he was just like one.

‘I just sat there and stroked his arm. I was afraid to do anything — but I was in a university teaching hospital and I thought they must know what they were doing.

‘It was all a bit of a haze, but I remember thinking: “Why aren’t they doing anything?” I tried to say encouraging words. I wanted to reassure him, to let him know that I was there.

‘I’d never seen anyone die before, but when I saw the blood draining from Owen’s face, I just knew that he was dead.
As Ann’s husband died, there was a sudden flurry of activity. ‘People rushed in, tore his mask off – but it was too little too late. And I suspect it had been for some time’

As Ann’s husband died, there was a sudden flurry of activity. ‘People rushed in, tore his mask off – but it was too little too late. And I suspect it had been for some time’

‘Just at that moment, a nurse came in with a trolley crying out: “Anyone for breakfast?” It was only a four-bed ward, and she showed indifference bordering on callousness. It was, for me, a very emotionally draining time — and I believe care and dignity were not there. Owen was treated with contempt.’

As Ann’s husband died, there was a sudden flurry of activity. ‘People rushed in, tore his mask off — but it was too little too late. And I suspect it had been for some time.’

A few days after her husband’s funeral, Ann returned to work. Friends had told her that work was the best therapy — but six weeks on, sleep eludes her.

For her, solace comes in the form of campaigning so that others do not suffer as her husband did. ‘This is why I’ve forced myself to speak out. I’ve had hundreds of supportive emails, and one retired GP wrote: “I felt ashamed of my profession and I cried at your distress.”

‘I don’t want any redress for myself, but I want to start a campaign. I just want to flag up the lack of compassion.

‘We all know nurses work under huge pressure, but so many now have degrees, and it seems to me there is more interest in their qualifications than in the qualities they should show to their patients.

‘Care, compassion, concern: this is what is needed. This is the message I want to get across.’

Mr Adam Cairns, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board Chief Executive, said he was keen to meet with Ms Clwyd.

‘I would, of course, like to offer my sincere condolences to Ms Clwyd on the loss of her husband. I have been very concerned to learn of her experiences but, unfortunately, to date, and despite repeated efforts, Ms Clwyd has not responded to our offers to meet with her.

‘As a health board, we always accept responsibility when things don’t go well, which is why we really need Ms Clwyd to help us get to the bottom of what happened in the case of her late husband and to allow us to investigate fully the very serious concerns she has raised.

‘I’ve asked for a review of the case to be undertaken, a process which would be much improved by having information first-hand of the circumstances surrounding this case.’

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Any person can be a nurse without the degree after an informal internship. Somehow, working so hard and saving so much for a degree sucks the very compassion and humanity necessary to be a good nurse and a good citizen. Modern education is EVIL but in a very subtle way. Thats another reason to avoid those who swear by education, especially HIGHER EDUCATION. I had a dozen or so friends that ‘died’ (dehumanized to point of non-viability as friends) after getting educations.

They never seemed the same. As for hospitals, I’d say that my parents who had some reason to be interred, ALSO ‘died’ and became ‘different’ after their stays. Education and healthcare, even working on a salary in general somehow fracture the souls of those they come into contact with or those working at such places. Try talking to people with less education and compare, while the conversations are mostly less interesting or more limited, the sense of humanity is more intact. There might be some sort of ‘contract’ that the spirit seems to be affected by when using such institutions, not easy to place this occult sort of thing, but most of society excepting the people denouncing or untouched by the overall system make for a very difficult case to put forth, yet we still try and the closing thing to a key I’d say is to study Socialism and Marxism FIRST before getting into the Capitalist and Consumerist world. That is all I can offer to those who are afflicted with what I just described. Modern society is a spiritual sickness of sorts. That and high density living which fosters hive minds ad mob mindedness . . . the other thing that changes a person’s objectivity and ‘true self’, is marriage and family, but that will be for another response . . .

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Doomsday Plans? Or forewarned of terror by terrorists (and hence complicit)? – Jurong Rock Cavern – Published April 17, 2009

“Jurong Rock Cavern, South-east Asia’s first underground rock cavern for oil storage, with its two access shafts almost completed, will begin its first phase of proper construction at year end, with the first two caverns providing 480,000 cu meters of storage. JRC is located more than 100 meters below Jurong Island’s Banyan Basin and it will provide safe and secure storage for liquid hydrocarbons such as crude oil, condensate, naphtha and gasoil. Locating the JRC just beneath Jurong Island will add more infrastructural support to the major chemical companies operating there such as Chevron Philips, ExxonMobil and Shell. Phase 1 of the project will free up about 60ha of usable land above ground and it will create 1.47 million cu metres of storage space, equivalent to 580 Olympic-sized pools, when completed by 2014. The cavern itself will be up to 27 m high – equivalent to a nine-storey building. This first phase will consist of 8km of tunnels and five caverns housing a total of nine storage galleries. The caverns will be built using a technique that drills and blasts sedimentary rock and for greater stability, the inner wall will be lined with rock bolts. A planned phase 2 of the project will double JRC’s storage capacity. GK-JCPL Consortium, a Jurong International partnership with French engineering firm Geostock, has previously been awarded the contract to in providing basic engineering design and construction management services for the caverns and associated facilities. Jurong International is also previously responsible for many of the heavy infrastructure and engineering projects associated with Jurong Island including its initial formation via reclamation and amalgamation of seven islands.”

Why we need such a deep storage in granite…300 feet below the surface? Just hoping its not for nuclear plant or weapons storage.

Hyundai clinches $890m Jurong Rock Cavern contract – by RONNIE LIM

CONSTRUCTION proper of Singapore’s underground oil storage project is finally set to start with South Korea’s Hyundai Engineering & Construction clinching the main $890 million ‘design and build’ contract this week from JTC Corporation.

Actual building under this contract, for the first phase of Jurong Rock Cavern (JRC), begins at year- end, with the first two caverns providing 480,000 cubic metres of oil storage when ready in the first half of 2013.

The entire phase one, comprising five caverns, will offer a total of 1.47 million cu m when completed by 2014.

This will make the JRC slightly larger than the $470 million, 1.24 million cu m tankfarm of Horizon Terminals, but about two- thirds that of Hin Leong Trading’s $750 million, 2.3 million cu m Universal Terminal – Asia’s largest commercial storage.

The project had earlier run into some delays, although Senior Minister of State for Trade & Industry S Iswaran last month gave the assurance that Singapore was committed to the JRC which would help alleviate the land shortage on Jurong Island.

Investors have not been able to get land there to build more above-ground oil terminals needed by oil refiners and traders to store their oil and petrochemical products.

So despite being behind schedule and slightly above cost, the JRC will provide necessary infrastructure for Singapore’s oil hub, especially once the rebound comes.

The cost for phase one of JRC – being built under Banyan Basin – has run up by about one-third to $940 million from an earlier estimate of $700 million.

This includes the $50 million for two access shafts and start-up galleries – which are almost completed – to facilitate construction.

The chosen operator of the JRC – earlier expected to be announced at the same time as the main construction award – will, however, only be made known by mid-year, JTC officials indicated yesterday.

Existing terminal operators here such as Royal Vopak of Holland and Emirates National Oil Company are known to be vying for this.

The main construction award came 11/2 years after the tender was first called by JTC in late-2007.

Asked why it took that long, given that there were only two bidders (the other being South Korea’s SK Engineering), the spokesman explained that ‘it’s a huge tender which involved a lot of detailed work and is very complex’.

The work is being done 130m below the seabed, and Hyundai – which has experience with such projects in Taiwan and Korea – has to carry out ‘drill and blast’ excavation using explosives, he added.

The entire phase one will involve eight kilometres of tunnels, with five caverns made up of two storage galleries, with each gallery being 340m long, 20m wide and 27m high. (About nine-storeys high, each gallery is large enough to contain water from over 64 Olympic-sized pools).

‘The water pressure will keep the oil contained within the generally unlined rock caves,’ the spokesman said.

The higher project cost arose due to improvements made to the cavern designs to enhance operational flexibility, he explained.

A planned phase two of the JRC could add a further 1.3 million cu m of storage, doubling its capacity.

Asked if this could cost more than phase one, the spokesman said that ‘the complexity is similar, so it depends on the timing (of when the project is done)’.

Commentator Comments :

Default Re: Jurong Rock Cavern To Store What? Scary Thought…Nuclear Plant?

I have a sneaky feeling its for something nuclear. It was mentioned before by our MIWs that Singapore may go nuclear in the future. Since when they tell u the truth about anything until TOO LATE or that we manage to ‘DIG’ things up trawling the internet. I have a real sneaky feeling about this ‘cavern’. Anyone have a map where this 8km cavern is located precisely? Dont want to live above it just in case. It’s in Jurong but where EXACTLY?  “You can fool some of the people some of the time….BUT, you cannot fool ALL the people ALL of the time…

WHICH PARTY’S SLOGAN IS……We Aim To Fool The Majority All The Time?”

Re: Jurong Rock Cavern To Store What? Scary Thought…Nuclear Plant?

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the location for sure will be top secret. No lah, the big lobang is for oil. For weapons or ammo, it would be somewhere else. Instead of hving thse giantic tanks like big targets for terrorist, safer to store them underground. The MIWs have been telling too many lies that its hard to believe them anymore. Even if for oil, there must be air-vents to the surface. i like to know where these air vents are so as not to visit the area too frequently. These air vents should be spewing out invisible chemicals  “You can fool some of the people some of the time….BUT, you cannot fool ALL the people ALL of the time…

WHICH PARTY’S SLOGAN IS……We Aim To Fool The Majority All The Time?”

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Kiasu at the taxpayer’s expense? MM 4 million+ yearly, SM 4 million+ yearly, ON TOP of the President and Prime Minister’s posts . . . which 99% of Singaporeans said those salaries were legal? Obama earns 400K a year and USA is 1000s of times more than Singapore? Meritocracy or Institutionalized/Legalized Corruption?

ARTICLE 14

China to flatten 700 mountains for new metropolis in the desert – Lanzhou new area plan to begin with ‘mountain-moving project’, but financial and environmental wisdom of project questioned – Jonathan Kaiman in Beijing – guardian.co.uk, Thursday 6 December 2012 17.48 GMT

A long, long time ago, an old Chinese peasant named Yu Gong decided to move two inconveniently located mountains away from blocking the entrance to his home. Legend has it he struggled terribly, but ultimately succeeded. Hence the Chinese idiom “Yu Gong moves the mountains.” Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Now Chinese developers are putting old Yu to shame.

In what is being billed as the largest “mountain-moving project” in Chinese history, oneof China’s biggest construction firms will spend £2.2bn to flatten 700 mountains levelling the area Lanzhou, allowing developers to build a new metropolis on the outskirts of the north-western city.

The Lanzhou New Area, 500 square miles (130,000 hectares) of land 50 miles from the city, which is the provincial capital of arid Gansu province, could increase the region’s gross domestic product to £27bn by 2030, according to the state-run China Daily. It has already attracted almost £7bn of corporate investment.

The project will be China’s fifth “state-level development zone” and the first in the country’s rapidly developing interior, according to state media reports. Others include Shanghai’s Pudong and Tianjin’s Binhai, home to a half-built, 120-building replica of Manhattan. China’s state council, its highest administrative authority, approved the Lanzhou project in August.

The first stage of the mountain-flattening initiative, which was reported on Tuesday by the China Economic Weekly magazine, began in late October and will eventually enable a new urban district almost 10 square miles in size northeast of downtown Lanzhou – a small, but important part of the Lanzhou Nnew area project to be built.

One of the country’s largest private companies: the Nanjing-based China Pacific Construction Group, headed by Yan Jiehe, is behind the initiative. The 52-year-old former teacher is portrayed in China as a sort of home-grown Donald Trump – ultra-ambitious and preternaturally gifted at navigating the country’s vast network of “guanxi”, or personal connections.

Yan was born in the 1960s as the youngest of nine children. After a decade of working as a high-school teacher and cement plant employee, he founded his construction firm in 1995 and amassed a fortune by buying and revamping struggling state-owned enterprises. In 2006 the respected Hu Run report named Yan – then worth about £775m – as China’s second-richest man.

His latest plan has evoked a healthy dose of scepticism. Lanzhou, home to 3.6 million people alongside the silty Yellow River, already has major environmental concerns. Last year the World Health Organisation named it the city with the worst air pollution in China. The city’s main industries include textiles, fertiliser production and metallurgy.

Liu Fuyuan, a former high-level official at the country’s National Development and Reform Commission, told China Economic Weekly that the project was unsuitable because Lanzhou is frequently listed as among China’s most chronically water-scarce municipalities. “The most important thing is to gather people in places where there is water,” he said.

Others also pointed to the financial risk of building a new city in the middle of the desert. “All this investment needs to be paid back with residential land revenue, and I don’t see much on returns in these kinds of cities,” said Tao Ran, an economics professor at Renmin University in Beijing. “If you have a booming real estate market it might work, but it seems to me that real estate in China is very, very risky.”

In an email interview, a China Pacific Construction Group spokeswoman dismissed criticisms of the project as unjustified. “Lanzhou’s environment is already really poor, it’s all desolate mountains which are extremely short of water,” said Angie Wong. “Our protective style of development will divert water to the area, achieve reforestation and make things better than before.”

Yan’s plans could be considered “a protective style of development, and a developmental style of protection”, she said, adding: “I think whether it’s England or America, or any other country, no one will cease development because of resource scarcity caused by geography.”

A promotional video posted on the Lanzhou new area website shows a digitally-rendered cityscape of gleaming skyscrapers and leafy parks. Against a driving operatic score, the camera zooms out from a large government building to reveal features of the area’s imagined urban topography: a clock tower, a new airport, an oil refinery, a light-rail system, and a stadium packed with cheering fans.

The new area “will lead to an environmentally sustainable economy based on energy-saving industries” including advanced equipment manufacturing, petrochemical industries and modern agriculture, wrote Chinese Central Television on its website.

The Lanzhou city government could not be reached for comment.

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There is no such thing as ‘real estate’, this has tremendous occult significance instead. Note the location and surrounding quake zones. This is a fengshui confluence city that looks set to be  filled with life energy if not mistaken or even able to somehow harness the energy at the safe point. Concept of money and real estate is a farce btw. Save for allodial titles backed by force of arms, real goods and real labour/services, or the whimsical entertainments of the RLD, OPZ or Casino city, there is nothing on this planet but evil politicians term limitless and nepotistic, along with plutocrats (those who are BOTH politician and plutocrat are the worst) that sequester wealth and pollute the environment.

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Brussels says it would block independent Scotland automatically joining the EU – by Matt Chorley, Mailonline Political Editor – PUBLISHED: 08:57 GMT, 6 December 2012 | UPDATED: 09:02 GMT, 6 December 2012

European Commission letter to House of Lords says Scotland’s membership will ‘cease to apply’ if it breaks away from the UK / Spanish government would block entry, fearing it would embolden Catalonian separatists

First Minister Alex Salmond has insisted an independent Scotland would automatically join the EU – something Brussels disputes

Brussels will refuse to let Scotland automatically join the European Union if voters back Alex Salmond’s plans for independence, it emerged today.

Officials at the European Commission have revealed Scotland’s EU membership will ‘cease to apply’ if it is no longer part of the UK.

The Spanish government has made clear it would ‘veto’ any attempt by Scotland to join.

It is a major blow to claims made by Mr Salmond, Scotland’s First Minister, that Scotland would automatically continue to be in the Euro bloc.

He was ridiculed after claiming in a TV interview that he had obtained legal advice on EU membership but it had to remain secret. He later admitted no advice had been sought.

Now it has emerged that a letter sent to a House of Lords committee warns that that independence ‘would not have a neutral impact’.

Scotland would become a ‘third country’ – outside the EU and have to apply to join the 27-member union, the European Commission told the Lords economic affairs committee.

‘If a territory of a member state ceases to be part of that member state because it has become an independent state then the treaties would cease to apply to that territory,’ according to the letter reported by The Scotsman.

If Scotland did lodge an application it would need to ‘fulfil the usual obligations’ and be ‘accepted unanimously by the members of the council [member states]’.

In a recent debate, Lib Dem Lord Wallace revealed the UK government was clear that any attempt for Scotland to join the EU would meet with difficulties.

‘On the question of Catalonia and Spain, it is entirely clear that the Spanish Government are opposed to any idea of secession and would be likely to veto a Scottish application to join the European Union under current circumstances.

There have been exchanges between the Spanish Government and the European Commission on this exact issue.’

The Spanish government fears that if an independent Scotland gained membership it would bolster calls for Catalonian independence.

It directly contradicts claims made by Mr Salmond’s SNP, who have repeatedly suggested Scotland would automatically join the EU as a new state.
The Scottish independence referendum is being held in autumn 2014, when Mr Salmond hopes to capitalise on a patriotic mood marking 700th anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn

The Scottish independence referendum is being held in autumn 2014, when Mr Salmond hopes to capitalise on a patriotic mood marking 700th anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn

SNP MP Pete Wishart told the Commons last month: ‘Scotland is a constituent part of the United Kingdom. We are currently a member of the European Union. After independence, we will continue to be a member of the European Union.’

But Foreign Office minister Hugo Swire told the same debate that ‘everything would change’ if Scots vote to go it alone in the referendum due in autumn 2014.

An independent Scotland would not automatically be a member of the EU and would have to ‘start afresh’, he added.

A spokesman for the Scottish Government said: ‘Immediately following a Yes vote in Autumn 2014, Scotland will still be part of the UK. Negotiations will then take place on the transfer of powers from Westminster to the Scottish Parliament along with negotiations on the specific terms of an independent Scotland’s continued membership of the European Union.

‘Ministers have always been clear that these negotiations will be needed – but the crucial point is that they will take place from within the EU.

‘Scotland has been an integral part of the European Union for almost four decades and an independent Scotland will continue in EU membership. As legal, constitutional and European experts have confirmed, Scotland is part of the territory of the European Union and the people of Scotland are citizens of the EU, and there is no provision for those circumstances to change upon independence.’

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I wouldn’t worry if I were Salmond or Scotland. When Scotland becomes a sovereign state and possibly banking or hub for BRICS, Brussels will change their tone to the effect that automatic joining will be forestalled by going through the motions of ‘starting afresh’. This is terribly manipulative but a face saving necessity.

Scotland presents a great opportunity for BRICS by being sidelined in this manner by EU. BRICS well needs a friendly point to the EU by and if the EU has decided to distance from Scotland then BRICS would certainly find Scotland that much more attractive, not that EU and BRICS are in any spat that Scotland is already not aware of. UN can even drop Scotland, but so long as BRICS is around the multipolar world will balance things out.

An independent Scotland would not automatically be a member of the EU and would have to ‘start afresh’, he added. Well thats just pretentious. And if by some impossibility that Scotland fails to join EU, the BRICS will be very happy to have a new member EVEN IF Scotland becomes the North Korea of the EU. Like a trust fund under guardianship and insulting as hell to Scotland to the tune of a deflated bagpipe gasping a sour note of contrived control. I’m not Scottish but already feel offended on the Scots’ behalf. Incidentally, try the CGI “Brave”, the settings make the Scots into a circus, main characters are ‘fractured’ as hell and an unhealthy role model . . .

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Don’t name your kid Siri – by Dean Obeidallah, Special to CNN – December 2, 2012 — Updated 0502 GMT (1302 HKT)

Sometimes a highly individualistic name for a baby is not good news for a kid, says Dean Obeidallah

Editor’s note: Dean Obeidallah, a former attorney, is a political comedian and frequent commentator on various TV networks including CNN. He is the editor of the politics blog “The Dean’s Report” and co-director of the upcoming documentary “The Muslims Are Coming!” Follow him on Twitter: @deanofcomedy

(CNN) — Siri, Mars, Mac and Luna. I’m not talking Apple products or planetary terms. These are baby names. And not just any baby names but ones that have jumped in popularity in 2012, according to Baby Center.com’s just released list.

Baby Siri? Seriously, who would name their bundle of joy after a frustrating Apple product that hardly ever works? And speaking of Apple (see daughter of Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin,) that name moved up a whopping 585 places on the list of names for girls born in 2012. So there could conceivably be a family out there with a daughter named Apple and a son named Siri. (Hope that entitles the family to a discount on an iMac.)

There was a time when bizarre baby naming was something only celebrities did to their kids (as if being the child of a celebrity wasn’t challenging enough). There’s Beyonce and Jay Z’s Blue Ivy, Penn Jillette’s son, Moxie Crimefighter, Bono’s daughter Memphis Eve, actor Jason Lee’s son Pilot Inspektor, and the list goes on and on.
Dean Obeidallah

But now this “condition” is apparently spreading to the rest of us. In addition to the offbeat names above, 2011 saw babies sporting such names as: Moo, Draper, Graceland and Tequila.

There are even media reports that this past weekend some parents allegedly named their newborn daughter, Hashtag. That one may turn out to be an Internet hoax, but after last year’s story of a child in Egypt being named Facebook (in praise of the role Facebook played in the Egyptian revolution), we can’t be too far from babies named Retweet and Spam Blocker anyway. It truly is only a matter of time until you meet a kid named DVR or Playstation 3.
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Apparently some parents believe that giving their child a jaw-dropping name will make him or her more distinctive. News flash: it’s not the name that makes your child stand out, it’s his or her achievements.

While I don’t want to rain on creativity, let’s be honest — these weird names are more about parents showing off their “cleverness” than about finding a name that fits the child. It’s not like the parents got to know the child first for a few months and then said, “You know this baby really is a little Siri.”
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And do these parents even consider that a baby’s name can cause consequences for the child that the parents never imagined, and in many areas of the child’s life? When I reflect upon my own name, I realize that my life could have been far different if my parents had followed their initial instincts when naming me.

My Palestinian father wanted to name me Saladin after the famous Muslim leader, while my Sicilian mother wanted to name me Dino. Instead they compromised on Dean.

Growing up in North Jersey, Dean was not a common name. But it actually made me feel different in a good way being the only Dean in my class. And even today in looking at the list of baby names for 2012, I was actually happy that Dean was not in the top 100.

Still, the truth is, if I’d been named Dino, I would have certainly been viewed as more ethnic by teachers, potential employers and co-workers. I would have been required to continually overcome cultural stereotypes.

And if I’d been named the very Arabic Saladin Obeidallah, you could just imagine all the “fun” I would have had in post-9/11 America. I would have likely volunteered for “random” security checks at the airport to make it easier for all involved or simply got used to taking the bus cross country.

But there’s a difference between a name that isn’t overly common and naming your child after your favorite appliance. A name is a big part of a kid’s identity. It can trigger impressions about a child even before we meet him or her — a particular problem among the closed-minded of the world, but this is the world your child will have to navigate.

For example, studies have found that children with names that linguistically sound like they come from a lower socioeconomic status are less likely to be recommended by school officials for gifted classes and actually more likely to be labeled as learning disabled.

Other research has revealed that boys with feminine sounding names — such as Shannon or Ashley — have had more disciplinary problems in school because of their response to teasing. Still other studies have found a link between how much people like their own names and their level of self-esteem.

So, parents, keep in mind that your choice of name will have a lasting impact on your child — both for good and bad. And if you insist on picking a bizarre name for the baby, then I propose that your child be empowered to rename you with any name he or she chooses. At least then it’s fair that a child named Hashtag has parents named Angry Birds and YouTube.

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In the past there were in some cultures NAMING CEREMONIES AT ADULTHOOD. The child would choose a name LATER, and all children knew their names when young were TEMPORARY and that parents chose those names. Sometimes what the child did that was most unique would also decide what that child was RENAMED at adulthood. So ‘Hashtag’ away and legalise/normalise name changing at the age of 21. Knowing that names are temporary and chosen by parents, kids would not be affected by teasing because they knew they were going to change that name, or the teasers would not bother to tease knowing the name would also change by then.

ARTICLE 17

Michigan weakens union rights in home of auto industry – Michigan passes anti-union law amid protests – by Bernie Woodall – LANSING, Michigan | Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:28pm EST

An anti right-to-work protester is seen outside of Michigan’s state capitol building in Lansing December 11, 2012. REUTERS/Rebecca Cook

(Reuters) – Michigan enacted a ban on mandatory union membership on Tuesday, dealing a stunning blow to organized labor in the state that is home to U.S. automakers and the symbol of industrial labor in the United States.

As more than 12,000 unionized workers and supporters protested at the Capitol in Lansing, the Republican-led state House of Representatives gave final approval to a pair of “right-to-work” bills covering public- and private-sector unions.

Republican Governor Rick Snyder signed the bills into law as soon as they reached his desk, completing in a few days a campaign to make Michigan the 24th U.S. state to prohibit unions from requiring employees to join and contribute dues.

“I view this as an opportunity to stand up for Michigan’s workers, to be pro-worker,” Snyder told a news conference after he signed the bills.

The laws will take effect 90 days after the end of the legislative session, which means they will probably come into force sometime in April. Existing union contracts will not be changed until they expire, according to a provision of the laws.

In a rapid turn of events, Michigan moved from being a bastion of union influence to joining states, mostly in the South, that have weakened local protections for unions.

The Teamsters union national president, James Hoffa, whose father, Jimmy Hoffa, was one of the nation’s most famous labor leaders until he disappeared in 1975 in Michigan, denounced Republican leaders in a speech to the protesters.

“Let me tell the governor and all those elected officials who vote for this shameful, divisive bill – there will be repercussions,” Hoffa said, adding the Republicans could be defeated in the next election.

Unions have accused Snyder of caving in to wealthy Republican business owners and political donors such as the Koch brothers, owners of an energy and trading conglomerate, and Richard DeVos, the co-founder of Michigan-based Amway.

Snyder, a former computer company executive who had said “right-to-work” legislation was too divisive for Michigan, changed course last week and announced his support for it.

While labor leaders decried the legislation, Republican Representative Lisa Lyons said during the debate in the House that such laws were not an attack on unions.

“This is the day Michigan freed its workers,” she said.

Opponents argue that the measures undermine a basic union tenet of bargaining collectively with employers for better wages, benefits and working conditions. They also allow workers to opt out of a union, potentially reducing membership.

By weakening unions, Republicans also could hurt the Democratic Party, which traditionally receives a significant portion of its funding and grass-roots support from unions.

Supporters of right-to-work measures say some unions have become too rigid and workers should be given a choice of whether to join. They also say a more flexible labor market encourages business investment, citing “right-to-work” states where some foreign automakers have put plants rather than in Michigan.

CRIES OF ‘SHAME’

The measures were approved to cries of “shame” from protesters inside the Capitol building, which was closed to visitors when it reached capacity of 2,200, Michigan State Police Inspector Gene Adamczyk said.

An estimated 10,000 more people demonstrated outside in cold and snowy conditions, including members of the United Auto Workers union, and teachers, who shut down several schools in the state to attend the rally.

A few protesters were ejected from the Capitol after they chanted slogans from the gallery during the debate. Protesters tore down two tents set up for supporters of “right-to-work” on the grounds of the Capitol. Adamczyk said six people were arrested after scuffling with officers.

A mixture of pepper spray and tear gas was used on one person, Adamczyk said, although Reuters journalists also saw protesters sprayed with a substance at a government building near the Capitol.

The protests recalled big rallies in Wisconsin nearly two years ago when Republicans voted to curb public-sector unions. Wisconsin never tried to pass “right-to-work” bills.

But Indiana earlier this year became the first state in the industrial Midwest to approve “right-to-work” legislation and several other states are watching the Michigan action closely.

LEGAL CHALLENGES LOOM

Republicans in Michigan were also emboldened by the defeat in the November election of a ballot initiative backed by unions that would have enshrined the right to collective bargaining in the state constitution.

Michigan is home of the heavily unionized U.S. auto industry, with some 700 manufacturing plants in the state. The state has the fifth highest percentage of workers who are union members, at 17.5 percent

The Detroit area is headquarters for General Motors Co, Ford Motor Co and Chrysler, which is majority-owned by Fiat SpA.

The UAW was founded in Michigan after a 1932 protest at a Ford plant in Dearborn left five people dead, increasing public sympathy for industrial workers during the Great Depression and leading to national legislation protecting unions.

Major automakers, which secured concessions from the UAW after nearly going bankrupt during the recession of 2008-09, were careful not to take sides publicly in the fight.

All of the so-called Big Three domestic automakers said they were “neutral” on “right-to-work,” even though the Michigan Chamber of Commerce strongly supports it.

“At Ford, we are focused on working with all our partners, including the UAW,” the company said in a statement on Tuesday.

Democrats and unions have vowed to challenge the new laws in the courts, to try to overturn them in a ballot initiative and possibly oust through recall elections some Republicans who voted for the measures.

Democratic Representative Douglas Geiss said “right-to-work” laws would lead to a resumption of the battles surrounding the creation of unions decades ago.

“There will be fights on the shop floor if many workers announce they will not pay union dues,” Geiss said.

(Additional reporting by Robert Carr, David Bailey and Deepa Seetharaman; Editing by Greg McCune and Peter Cooney)

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Reuters?!? A ban on mandatory union membership *IS NOT*, dealing a stunning blow to organized labor in the state that is home to U.S. automakers and the symbol of industrial labor in the United States. This protects the workers from mob mindedness or being forced into what become SECRET SOCIETIES that also collect yearly dues or other fees that mosy workers who need a union cannot and would rather not pay! Work unions are powerful and goodly when CONSENSUAL, but when EEVERY WORKER IS FORCED TO JOIN, we end up with ‘Satrapies’ run by tyrants, especially if term limits in the COMMITTEE are not a fact or part of the constitution of the Union in question. This law protects the individual worker by giving OPTIONS. How could Reuters write such news?!?

‘Supporters of right-to-work measures say some unions have become too rigid and workers should be given a choice of whether to join. They also say a more flexible labor market encourages business investment, citing “right-to-work” states where some foreign automakers have put plants rather than in Michigan.’ This says everything.

“There will be fights on the shop floor if many workers announce they will not pay union dues,” Geiss said.

Oh yea? So what if they don;t join or don’t pay. If they don’t want to pay the union mafia, thats their choice. Why should there be any fights at all. Are these unions thugs?

ARTICLE 18

Various Commentators’ Justification of the Civilisational War on Islam : Somewhat censored and telling comments found on : http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=32211602&postID=115475218932378014

Blogger mike obrien said…

i fuckin hate this religion ,i grew up in muslim majority country and i can say muslims are full of shitt even though i don’t hate muslims i hate islam “To Muslims it is always a just war if the end goal is to spread Islam. If the war is waged by non Muslims to stop Muslims from marching in to spread Islam inside their land, it is an unjust war…Many Muslims call for da’wa in the West, which technically means “an invitation to Islam.” They present it as a “peaceful” invitation, but they do not tell the West that this is the first step before outright war if their da’wa is rejected. So when Muslims say da’wa, the West should be warned, because they do not want you to know that da’wa is merely the “make nice” first step before preceding outright jihad.” 7:56 PM

Blogger Gabe Del said…

I’m a witness to the ignorance that is Muslim . I’m a US Marine forward deployed on my 5th combat deployment. Four in Iraq and now one in afghanastan . These guys are illiterate and simple minded. The ten percent that can read will twist young Muslims minds to make them believe what ever they want them to believe in their Gods name. Kill, kill, kill is what they teach them against anyone not Muslim. There Koran teaches peace and good will, but I agree, history tells the truth of what kind of people they really are. No need to swear or lower yourself to their level. Muslims are the infection this world so desperately needs a cure for. 10:19 AM

Dead Ted said…

So your saying that the sneak attack on our towers, the pentagon, and the White House is a way to protect their land and people? Good plan worked wonders…some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever read 2:38 PM

Blogger Red_Rooster said…

Their minds are f***ed, memorizing the fucking Koran. Their ‘thinking’ part of the brain has gone redundant. They hate the Jews but do everything the Jews do; do not eat pork, cut their dicks, bleed a poor animal to death and call it ‘Hallal’ instead of ‘Kosher’, write backwards and wash their dicks before they start praying. In fact, the dumb muslims, follow the Jewish calender! The first day for the muslims is ‘Yom al Ahed’, meaning the first day. It is the Sunday; the first Jewish day after the Sabath. Yom al Itneen, Yom al thalata, Robo, Khamis and Juma, stand for the second, third, fouth, fifth and sixth day. The muslims 7th. day, is ‘Yom al Septh’; literally meaning, the seventh day. In fact, the Sabath; the day the Jews were told to rest. The muslims only differ from the Jews, is in their day of rest. They rest a day before the Jews. In prayer, physically they are the same, except the Jews literally tell you they are fucking somebody, while the muslims tell you, “Fuck Me!”

samy said…

to Jihan

I know what is written in Quraan , i was forced to read and even memorize it at school when I was living in my mother country before migrate to canada ( thank God), the true islam relegion is violence .. force other people to convert otherwise they will be islam enemy and should be killed .. this is what written in Quraan and you knw it and can not deny it… even in here in canada they are trying to force the stubid islamic belives on other people and their ultimate goal is to take over north america and europ .. I hope that our government to wake up and realise what is going on … WAKE UUUPPPP.., islam is evil , muslims are twisted minded and hate everyone simply because he or she is not muslim !!!! they will be in everlasting HELL.. this is the simple plan truth, so what ever you or any muslim try to say otherwise .. it is a BIGGGGG LIE.!! 10:45 AM

Event_Horizon said…

They are so backward in all aspects of life including commerce, infrastructure or technology. They are a brainwashed nation thirsty for the blood of other successful nations. And the worst part is their fucked up religion acts as a catalyst. It inspires them to wage was over the world. For how long will the world continue to tolerate these freaks of religion? The muslims sole mission in life is to create terror in the world. That is what they live for, that’s what their religion teaches them. They are jealous of the developed countries . . . P.S. Muslims smell bad…..True Story! 12:38 PM

Blogger Pris said…

I love all other religions except islam. Muslims are truly f***** up, but don’t know any better because they are brainwashed and left with no brains. Watch all the muslim countries in the world, none of their economies are doing well. The ones that have oil may have money, but they have no infrastructure, no scientific manpower etc. These assholes come to the west for a better life and then try to force their evil religion, customs, traditions and damn sharia law on the free citizens of the world. If left to thrive these guys will make our western nations deteriorate to the abysmal level of the muslim countries they came from. Their goal is to dominate the world and so they multiply like rats to increase their numbers. Before they become a sizable population in the west we should send these guys, including the ones that were born or converted in the west, to muslim countries and contain them there. Let them over populate muslim countries . . . are contaminating the west and so should be stopped before it is too late. To start off, we need to prohibit building of mosques and islamic schools, and publishing of the unholy koran. We need to unite and end this evil.

Blogger TheDeathBird said…

I know a family who left Lebanon to flee Muslim persecution. One of their grandsons returned to visit. On this trip there was a man yelling on the TV set in his hotel room. The man was protesting being fined a cow for shooting his wife for being outside the house. She had crossed a field and a man on a horse said something to her, since he didn’t get a clear shot at the man. Since he could not prove the man was really talking to his wife they fined him a cow. This is Muslim law this is what the Koran teaches. Also, in the Koran a woman told her husband to stop following Mohamid or she would leave She believed Mo was a bad evil monster. Her husband begged her to not talk bad about Mo but since She wouldn’t stop talking bad about Mohamid and She was Pregnant he cut his unborn child out of her belly. He went to Mo and told him and Mohamid said ” I can find no fault with this man” OK people this Story is in the Koran! can you imagine any other spiritual leader like Jesus or Krishna saying something like that! Only the spawn of hell the son of Satan the true Anti Christ would say such a thing Muslims worship the devil their God lives in hell and eats the faithful Muslims for dinner. While pretending to be God. Let any Muslim tell us that story isn’t in the Koran I read it! they follow this monster Mohamido the vile and say he is good. Anyone who reads the Koran who has any love inside them or spirtuality will be sad such a vile work of hate can be considered a work inspired by God. 7:48 PM

sexyharry said…

these guys(muslims) when small in numbers behave as if they are good (we respect other religions,and our god is tolerant etc.) but reality is there quran teaches to hate,kill people who doesn’t believe in islam, some of muslims are good as they doesn’t follow islam properly…….as muslims number increases they will be no more friend of urs ,they will take the side their muslim brothers and try to implement the shariah law’s,blasts,killing who leaves islam……so,i am a guy from sanathan dharam,in our religion we respect every other religion and our religion doesn’t believe in conversion bcoz god resides in us not by simple conversion…..so,i love all religions except islam ………4:02 AM

Blogger vsindia said…

Thes muslims are really lowly creatures. all the terrorists in this world are muslims. how can screw muslims ?

– stop giving them jobs
– shun them publicly
– make separate , stricter laws for muslims
– lets convert all their kids after killing the men
– lets creat gas chambers once again – only for muslims/

I hate them so much that my fist clench and jaws go tight when i think of these bastards. They have forcibly thrown out hindus out of kashmir and christians out of bosnia.

4:42 AM

mark said…

not all muslims are bad but I am sick of them. I am sick of them coming to the west and demanding that shariah law be implemented in western nations. if muzzies think shariah law is so great then they should piss off and go live in a muslim nation.

sick of their fantical hate and terrorism.
sick of their demands and sick of their backward ways.
muslims should go and live in muslim nations and keep their shit ways in muslim nations.

10:08 PM

Blogger marine corps captain said…

JIHAN,

I have taken significant time to read your Koran. And I would rather wipe my ass with a dirty, dime store novel than waste another minute reading, or listening, to that complete pile of pig cum.
Thank GOD I had the opportunity to kill 19 of your brethren while in Iraq. 19 less jihadists on the move.
It’s not ignorance my camel fucking friend…I completely understand your beliefs, motives and wants for this world. And if given the chance I would end your life as well. And your family’s and friend’s lives if possible.
And please refrain from the old tag line of “That’s not true Islam.” Any individual with a 3rd grade education has the ability to understand your religion of hate, murder, suppresion and penchant for death. Watch your back, Muhhamed…you won’t have a second chance with me. 8:23 AM

Fighting to live said…

Hi guys . I am married to a moslem but I am Greek Orthodox. This is a quite funny mix. Our kids are Christian I made sure . But the Moslems all jokes aside have made and continue to make efforts to convert me. That is quite frightening. My husband offered to convert. So I decided to make him sell everything in Pakistan and the next step is to convert him. Wait and see. Keep up the great work

8:50 PM

Blogger Uncle_Sam said…

this maessage is for the fucking muslims

Long gone are the days when you used to blow yourselves up in the middle of the streets in the countries that you infest with your presence.You forget that we are the ones who created and adopted this so-called human rights but we can also break em! you call yourselves warriors ? Com on up and fight you stinckin’ cowards! we’ll show you what a war means…We’ll show you what everyone felt 65 years ago!We’ll show the Nazi style bitches…we will behead all of your stinckin’ children and your masked-shit-pushed-in wifes… Can u all spell together HOLOCAUST? 3:10 PM

Blogger Red_Rooster said…

sdlfihsdiulkgh54;kuy5b4jgrehthredyth said… This man talks of porn … Tell him to go to Yemen. He can fuck 12 yr. old girls there for free! Three times a day! Free!

I lived in Yemen and I know. All the women go out around noon to eat Kat at their friends’. You just pick these Burka clad women and boy, when they enter your home, the Burka is off in a jiffy! Just like that! Pot luck but fucking lucky evertime I had. I must have fucked over 300 muslim cunts in my 5-year stay there. No worry of husbands. They are all in working in Saudi Arabia; coolies there and their 12 year old brides are getting fucked back home. By the way … all their women have inserted in them, the ‘Copper T’. A muslim Female gynacologist I knew, made a roaring business from inserting these things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrauterine_device

4:35 PM

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The ruder parts of the above have been edited out. The acts of terror are clear enough, but just from a woman’s angle, one doesn’t need to be a woman to want Islam to end in some places, to see how horrible Muslimahs lives are in some places . . . combine with a chastity belt (Christianity) and wallah, a semi-Cyborg . . . how much do some of the very worse among Muslets hate life or procreation that makes them treat women like this, makes the ‘no condoms’ Catholic lot seem humane even though abortion IS A HUMAN RIGHT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity_belt_(BDSM). . .

In 1998, racial riots against the ethnic Chinese in West Java prompted the production and sale of “anti-rape corsets” (things have cooled off since as China gains further traction in ASEAN . . . ).

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/10946622/ns/today-entertainment/t/anti-rape-devices-stir-debate-metal-museum/

ARTICLE 19

Egyptians suffer buyers’ remorse as Morsi drives toward Islamicization – by Araminta Wordsworth | Dec 12, 2012 8:30 AM ET | Last Updated: Dec 12, 2012 8:43 AM ET

Full Comment’s Araminta Wordsworth brings you a daily round-up of quality punditry from across the globe. Today: It’s the statistics, stupid!

There are more than 83 million people living in Egypt, the Middle East’s most populous nation; 90% of them are Sunni Muslims. More than half dwell in small towns and villages in the countryside and tend to be deeply conservative, attached to tradition. There is a small, urban, educated upper-middle class of liberals and left-wingers.

If these people get the vote, guess who the majority would go for? Under these circumstances, the dramatic swing from dictatorship through democracy to dictatorship is all too sadly predictable.

Now, Mohammed Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood member who was elected Egyptian president in June, is showing his true colours — he’s like Hosni Mubarak with a beard. He wants nothing less than an Islamic state, with sharia law and Muslim clerics empowered to render legal opinions.

His idea of reaching out to the opposition is to restate his position, as he did in last week’s speech. This was so devoid of anything resembling reconciliation or fresh ideas, the BBC cut off the live feed after about seven minutes.

Instead, Morsi is calling on the military to do his dirty work, arresting and trying civilians. Brotherhood members have also resorted to torture and the kind of vigilante “justice” that was a feature of the ancient regime. In their view, opponents are Mubarak supporters and/or paid troublemakers.

The Economist for one has seen the writing on the wall.

[Morsi’s actions have polarized Egypt’s exhausted people. The most populous and politically pivotal Arab state stands on the brink of prolonged civil strife, or a descent into a form of veiled dictatorship not unlike the one so recently overthrown, only this time in drab Islamist garb …
The abruptness of the Islamists’ lunge for control has ignited Egypt’s hitherto fractious opposition in outrage, prompting protests on the scale of those during the revolution. A group of former presidential candidates has picked Mohamed ElBaradei, a Nobel peace prize-winner and former UN official, as their leader, and threatened strikes and continued protests until Mr. Morsi relents. The judges, who usually run such things, plan to boycott the referendum. But he shows no signs of backing down. Tired, impoverished and apprehensive, ordinary Egyptians may be tempted to let the  Muslim Brotherhood have their way.

Reporting for Der Spiegel from Cairo, Matthias Gebauer describes Morsi as the Brotherhood’s poodle.

Morsi remains intent on strictly following the course of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Islamist group wants to see their man, who won a narrow victory in summer elections, to put Egypt on the path to fundamentalist Islam. And the Muslim Brotherhood is in no mood for compromise. After more than 80 years in the political underground, Brotherhood leaders have decided to seize their chance. And Morsi increasingly looks the part of a fainthearted Brotherhood puppet. He appears to have accepted his country’s descent into violence, making more clashes on the streets of Cairo inevitable.

At The National Review, Andrew C. McCarthy says Egypt’s unravelling was inevitable.

Here’s the late-breaking news: The Muslim Brotherhood is the enemy of democracy. … the Muslim Brotherhood is an innately, incorrigibly Islamic-supremacist outfit. Wherever it establishes a presence, it seeks — as gradually as indigenous conditions require, and as rapidly as they allow — to implement its repressive construction of sharia. Wherever it gets the opportunity to rule, it uses its power to impose this sharia, despite resistance from the society’s non-Islamist factions.

This is not a mere theory. Egypt, the world’s most important Arab country, is violently convulsing before our eyes in direct reaction to the suffocation that is Islamist rule. So, will we finally take the lesson? Will we finally come to understand why democracy and Islamic supremacism cannot coexist? Ebrahim Moosa, an Islamic studies prof at North Carolina’s Duke University, believes the Egyptian president and his Islamic allies badly misjudged the situation.

Mr. Morsi seems to have forgotten the sensitivity that a country freshly freed from decades of despotism might feel towards anything with an odour of dictatorship. Secretive and inward-looking, the Brotherhood appears surprised by the depth of mistrust that many Egyptians, including pious Muslims of every social class, feel towards them. The Islamists’ constituency remains large and their organising power formidable. “They will rally the poor with the slogan: to be a Muslim, vote yes for the constitution and confound the infidels,” predicts Muhammad Nour Farahat, a law professor at Cairo’s Zagazig University. Yet even if Mr Morsi and his Brothers manage to pull this off, a heavy cloud will remain over their rule.

Egypt 2012 Const-Referendem (Note the true culturists wearing their subtle NPPs . . . )

Egypt 2012 Const-Referendem (Note the true culturists wearing their subtle NPPs . . . )

compiled by Araminta Wordsworth
awordsworth@nationalpost.com

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Why not the military just take over and do away with the Islamist b.s. and revive a BENEVOLENT Constitutional Pharoanate via DNA testing to determine the closest Royal Egyptian bloodline? A BENEVOLENT Grand Vizier from the military would well be tolerated even for LIFE (if all unused state land is redistribited to the landless or homeless in Egypt) while the country RE-EGYPTIANISES. This would be preferable to this potential threat of the Muslim Brotherhood Islamist imposition of Hudud or Syariah under Morsi which does not need to be written into the constitution and instead remain seperate from the State. Religion and State are not to be confused into a single item under any Islamist leaning Constitution. Let the Muslets impose their own laws on theselves, LEAVE THE SECULARITY OF STATE ALONE.

WHERE IS THE Pharoah’s Brotherhood or Amon-Ra’s Brotherhood to counter the Muslim Brotherhood? Freemasonry across the world could accept no less!

This is EGYPT and Cairo, Alexandria, Luxor, the central symbol of the Egyptian civilisation is THE PYRAMID OF THE PHAROAHS . . . NOT ARABIA and Mecca or Medina,  the central symbol of the Arabian civilisation is THE CUBE OF KABAA.

Egypt is nt Arabia.

Egypt is not Arabia.

Adopt EGYPTIAN NAMES not keep using those ARABIAN NAMES (the wealthier can trace their DNA down to the nobility or even Kings if they try hard enough). Pray and worship at EGYPTIAN Temples. Respect a revived Egyptian Priesthood not a Foreign Priesthood that answers to a foreign Arab King. Wear Egyptian garb. In Egypt, if the Egyptian people have the will, an Egyptian King is even possible (Constitutional Monarch), or an Egyptian Pharoah rather.

Learn Hieratic instead of Arabic and remember that EGYPTIAN culture and polytheistic EGYPTIAN religion (well if the people are as lazy as Akenathan, worship Amon-Ra instead for a while NOT the Kabaa – even as the Aabakian Octohedron Cult arises on the Mecc(h)an Antipode) are well loved the world over, as opposed to Islamism’s monotheistic malaise and penchant for association with oil and terror, rampant disrespectful proselytization and sometimes forced conversions.

Some Egyptians remember who they are . . .

At least some Egyptians seem to remember who they are . . . the Egyptian Pantheon’s first High Priest perhaps? Imhotep! Imhotep! Imhotep II rather . . .

7 Articles on Malaysia : Protecting LGBTs (contrived?), Rights of Child, Consensuality and Article 18 issues ,Nervous Big Shot Fumbling About, Low Tech Chinese Community Journos speak, RPK widens the ‘Hate List’, Pakatan’s Ra-ra Propagandists, Food Fascism – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree – 30th March 2012

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ARTICLE 1

Five anti-gay activists charged – Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:35

KUALA LUMPUR- Five activists of the anti-lesbian gay bisexual transgender movement were charged at the magistrate’s court here, yesterday under the Minor Offences Act 1955 with putting up certain posters.

Muhammad Nizam Ali, 24, Hamzah Mahmood, 32, Md Norizam Che Othman, 31, Shahir Saarani, 30, and Mohd Jamil Jamaluddin, 36, pleaded not guilty to committing the offence at Jalan Wan Kadir in Taman Tun Dr Ismail at 3.40am on Feb 4.

They were alleged to have committed the offence with five others still at large.

They were said to have put up, at a public space, posters with pictures and words such as “Lim Guan Eng Racist”, “Lim Guan Eng Anti Melayu”, “Lesbian Gay Bisexual Trans” and “Undi Ambiga Undi Seks Bebas”.

Deputy public prosecutor Haderiah Siri proposed bail for each of the accused at RM10,000 with one surety. Defence counsel Rezal Mazli Abdul Muin said the proposed bail was too high and suggested RM300 for each person.

He said the five accused were first-time offenders and that they were being charged with a minor offence which carries a maximum fine of RM1,000 if found guilty.

Magistrate Zulkpli Abdullah fixed bail at RM1,000 each and allowed two bailors to post bail for the five accused.

He fixed May 7 for mention.

One of the bailors was Tengku Amalluddin Sani, national secretary of Jaringan Melayu Malaysia, who said that the five had come to the association for legal help.

Nizam and Hamzah were unemployed and Jamil was self-employed. Norizam and Shahir were mechanics.

The five posted bail. -nst.com

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Not bad at all. Get these 5 to put up apology and anti-hate posters that will be removed by these 5 later. This is not about money or fines, though the fine could be calculated against the ‘UNINFLATED by middleman’ cost of the proceedings. Hate Speech crimes for LGBT being punished is a good sign though. How about the Judiciary take on the UNHCR Article 18 (also Malaysian Constitution 11) Apostasy issue to streamline Malaysia’s legal system as well?

ARTICLE 2

Jail, rotan for unnatural sex – Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:19

GEORGE TOWN – A former university student was sentenced by the Sessions Court here to five years’ jail and ordered to be given 11 strokes of the rotan after he pleaded guilty to five charges of committing unnatural sexual acts against two boys, including forcing one of them to sodomise him.

Muhammad Mustakim Mohamad, 23, admitted committing the offences between Oct 2010 and March last year.

He had initially claimed trial to the charges but changed his plea yesterday.

In the first three charges, he was accused of forcing a 14-year-old boy to perform oral sex on him at 7.15pm on March 13 and 5.30pm on March 20 last year, and forcing the boy to perform anal sex on him at 9.15am on March 19 last year.

In the other two charges, Mustakim was accused of stimulating a 9-year-old boy to commit an indecent act at 11pm on Oct 15, 2010, and at 3pm on March 16 last year at a house in Taman Bukit Gambir, Jalan Bukit Gambir, Gelugor.

Counsel Rosli Ismail, who appeared for Mustakim, asked for a lighter sentence as it was his client’s first offence.

Sessions Court judge Sitarun Nisa Abdul Aziz sentenced Mustakim to five years’ jail and three strokes of the rotan for each of the first three offences, and three years’ jail and one stroke for the other two offences.

She ordered his jail sentences to run concurrently from yesterday.

Deputy public prosecutor Sariza Ismail prosecuted.

-New Straits Times

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Charges should be for coercive sex or paedophilia – IF any. If both cases were consensual, this would be a Muslim sin. How to punish if consensual? Expel them from the religion at most. All this whipping is simply medievial and barbaric. Hitting does not foster better EQ or better behaviour. Any punishment from age technicalities between obviously consenting parties is also wrong. Any element of coercion should be considered. But where there is none, the state itself has no right, much less via theocracy to hurt individuals or brand consenting persons victims. This is a harmful legalistic culture that is backed with spiritually wrong treatment of sexuality. Remember that sex is for recreation of procreation. And as early as 5 years old a child could carry to term, though psychologically they will not be ready.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

But by 10 or 12 the psychological implications can already be very clear to females (remember that the psychological age of females are up to as many as a decade ahead) and the action of sex cannot be relegated to an age number in the law book. ASK both parties if there was coercion, and then consider if any party feels aggrieved. Usually marriage will formalise and solve reputation problems, but in modern societies, this is different because word of law is considered instead of spirit of law by lawyers divorced from the psychological dimension of the issue. Modern society focuses too much on recreational sex at times, but the element of sabotage and manipulation of 3rd parties to induce such sabotage typically for :

1) monetary gain

2) simply to ‘sabotage or fun’

3) immature minds influenced by bad family environments or man hating militant feminist persons trying to hurt men influencing pliable children

There are many complexities and angles that ‘word of law cannot clarify’ but ‘spirit of law’ can.

This response is not intended as a defense for paedophilia but for reminding on the spirit of law, and the deeper aspects of consent, psychological age, as well as physical maturity which judgments are often levied in isolation of one or the other aspect. Compound this with Islamic Jurispredence which advocates corporeal punishments like whipping or limb hacking and anyone can see where EQ and even SQ goes entirely out the window. God knows how many people have been severely harmed spiritually or otherwise from such viciousness and the legal system’s neglect of the subtler aspects of the why and wherefore before judgment and passing of sentence.

 

ARTICLE 3

Mr PM, let me tell you why we are worried: Cow-gate, Cop-gate, AG-gate and now Anak-gate – by Robert Phang – Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:53

Prime Minister Najib Razak must lead the way, show true reforms and avoid cover-ups. The government’s objective of making crime reduction one of the National Key Result Areas (NKRA) is now showing results. According to the World Justice Project Rule of Law Index 2011 Report, Malaysia was ranked the safest country in the Asia Pacific Region.

All these are marked improvements of the image of the PDRM than when it was under the previous IGP, Musa Hassan. During Musa Hassan’s time, the PDRM was despised, the Along money-lending syndicate became a national menace and the crime rate was high especially street crimes. In short, Malaysians feel unsafe then. Some may say that was all in the past. But the past shapes the present and the future.

Police need to buck or fall behind

In that regard I feel compelled to remind the PDRM that the positive image now can slide back to what it was before. I feel compelled to remind PDRM that it must not be a law enforcement agency that is involved in cover-ups in protecting only the rich and powerful. As such, current CCID Director, Dato’ Syed Ismail Syed Azizan, must be commended for announcing that the police had recommended for prosecution action in the NFC “Cowgate” scandal. This had forced AG Gani Patail to finally charge Shahrizat Jalil’s husband, the Chairman of the NFC, for CBT. That unconventional announcement was a very brave and smart move by Syed Ismail so that there cannot be a cover-up for which the police will be made to take the blame. That really helped improve the image of the PDRM in the eyes of the Rakyat.

As a Friend of the Police, I call on the Rakyat not to misconstrue the statement made by the Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein about the revelations made by former CCID Director Dato Ramli Yusuff of the cover-ups, fixing-ups, fabrications and abuses of power by Musa Hassan and AG Gani Patail in what is now known as the “CopGate Affair”. What Minister Hishammuddin had really said was “Prove it, and we will take action. No one is above the law”. Thus, we must take that positively.

Police duty to investigate and not kow-tow to AG

Since Hishammuddin has asked for proof, YDH IGP Ismail Omar must now take the Minister seriously and direct investigations by his officers. The police powers to investigate crimes are prescribed by the Police Act. If I may, IGP Ismail Omar can show his seriousness, objectivity and professionalism to uncover the truth and obtain evidence by taking the following steps:

> exclude CID Director, Bakri Zinin, from this investigation. This is to protect Bakri Zinin from any allegations of being connected to AG Gani Patail as Bakri is also from Sabah;

> direct independent minded investigators like CCID Director Syed Ismail who is not easily intimidated by AG Gani Patail as has been shown in “Cowgate”;

> not to allow circumvention of police work by any politician, no matter how high that politician may be, from carrying out police duties as that is the oath of duty of a professional police force;

> leave no stones unturned of all the reports made by Dato’ Ramli Yusuff against AG Gani Patail and Musa Hassan that have now been in the public domain for some time, namely investigate:

a) the truths of the SD by Musa Hassan’s ADC of his complicity with the underworld;

b) the truths of 10 other SDs by the other policemen;

c) the truths of the SDs by the other informants about the turning over of their informant’s evidence;

d) the cover- ups for Goh Cheng Poh in the Along syndicate investigations and the circumvention of police work in that case;

e) the unlawful access of Cicero confidential files;

f) abdication of AG’s duties under Art 145 Federal Constitution by refusing to act for and prepare affidavits for CCID;

g) fixing-up of Dato’ Ramli and his six officers by using the fabricated statement of Moo Sai Chin who was then under EO Detention;

h) fixing-up of Dato’ Ramli’s lawyer;

i) AG’s complicity in the matters concerning Tajudin Ramli/MAS and whether there was suppression of evidence;

j) AG’s refusal to prosecute Tajudin Ramli despite the recommendation of the CCID;

k) relationship between AG Gani Patail with Tajudin’s proxy, Shahidan Shafie. It is noted that Shahidan was previously charged for corruption while he was OC Secret Societies of Johor;

l) whether it is proper conduct for an Attorney-General to fraternize with a person of ill- repute (Shahidan Shafie) especially when that person is connected to an on-going investigations by the Police and the MACC. Their consorting together is evident as exposed in the Haj scandal with photographs and other supporting Tabung Haji documents;

m) AG’s complicity in the Ho Hup corporate tussle as evidenced by photographs of the A-G at Ho Hup’s office and the prosecution of the other side.

Not for Nazri to decide

The Rakyat is disappointed that the Speaker of Parliament had rejected the urgent motion by Subang MP R Sivarasa for this matter to be debated in Parliament last Wednesday. The integrity of AG Gani Patail impacts on the whole system of justice in this country. The Rakyat sees this refusal to allow parliamentary debate on a matter of such importance as a cover-up.

To dispel this negative perception, I ask IGP Ismail Omar to discharge his constitutional duties to investigate without fear or favor. I ask Ismail Omar to disregard the misconceived statements of Nazri Aziz that the government will not investigate this further. It is not for the Minister to state whether the complicity of AG Gani Patail should be investigated just as it is not for that Minister to direct GLCs to settle their cases with Tajudin Ramli.

Anak-gate : Where did the lawless son get so much money?

Nazri may be the Law Minister, but he has no legal nor moral authority to tell the police how to carry out the law if he cannot control his lawless son and his bodyguards in connection with the recent assault of a security guard. According to the police reports made available to me, Nazri’s son had even used his father’s Minister’s name card to introduce his entourage. Is that not abuse of power? The Rakyat is not amused that the case has been classified as Affray under s. 160 Penal Code. Affray is fighting in a public place. His son’s body guards trespassed onto private property and assaulted a security guard. How could that be an affray?

Beyond that, the Rakyat ponders how did Nazri’s son afford such luxurious cars – a Porsche driven by him and a Toyota Vellfire by his bodyguards? Why did he need bodyguards? What business is he in? Are we seeing further examples of “Cowgate” amongst the families and sons of Ministers who live in absolute opulence whereas the Rakyat are told to be thrifty and constantly reminded of rising inflation and high cost of living.The MACC should look into whether this Minister’s family is living beyond their means or having unusual wealth. After all, that is what all civil servants are subjected to under the MACC Act. So, it is better that Nazri controls his “anak jantan” and his entourage to behave in accordance with the law than for him to meddle in the affairs of the police.

The IGP must direct PDRM to act independently. That is how checks and balances in government institutions are maintained so that the Rakyat can feel safe and secure. Politicians come and go but the institution of the police cannot be made to succumb to their whims and fancies.

Too much evidence against Gani Patail to ignore

The evidence already in the public domain against AG Gani Patail are just too numerous for the government to ignore. As such, on behalf of the Rakyat I beg PM Najib to hear the Rakyat’s voice. The PM should know that the Rakyat is unhappy that he has said that it is not necessary to constitute a tribunal to look into this. The Rakyat wonders why the government must defend this AG until it affects the credibility of PM Najib’s government. This may only fuel suspicion that AG Gani Patail and Musa Hassan have a hold on the PM and other government leaders. PM Najib must dispel this by taking firm action.

PM Najib must not lose the plot. PM Najib has already shown that he will walk the talk when it comes to the Rakyat. I am sure PM Najib is sensitive to the Rakyat’s feelings. He is already popular with the reforms undertaken so far. So, let it not be dampened by the allegations surrounding AG Gani Patail. The Rakyat will support PM Najib in all his reform plans especially when the Rakyat trust there is no cover-ups.

Tan Sri Datuk Robert Phang Miow Sin is a prominent civil society leader, a Justice of Peace and a former member of the MACC advisory panel

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Quite partisan and edging away from a bold statement or two in the past. Kinda disappointing and though qualified, wealthy and networked enough, yet probably will not have the courage to run as an indpendent candidate. Abit too pro-Xian around the edges and possibly with skeletons in closets as well . . . better than no choice for independant candidates, but would Tan Sri Datuk Robert Phang dare to take the righteous path than being so unsteady in facing the PDRM and with an agenda against Nazri faction? How about communicating to the Malay Rulers on the Bumiputra-Apartheid issue?

Not too old but wavering as hell, and in 2 decades or so, no longer viable. Run for candidacy as an independant if you dare Tan Sri and stop sniping from the sidelines like some of us who have not built reputations or wealth sufficiently to properly join the battle or have had reputations sabotaged. Make clear or run for candidacy on the below, find proxies as independent 3rd Forcers, otherwise file a lawsuit instead of floundering around pointing fingers shamefully like this. The 3 items again to take a stand on :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (UNHCR Article 1)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (UNHCR Article 18)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (UNHCR Article 1)

Political attacks on Nazri should not take precedence over the above 3 items. File a lawsuit with the UN about the above Robert, our so-called CM of Penang and ‘Chinese leader’ doesn’t have the focus to do that, being a bronze souled product of nepotism that does not know that campaign promises need to be kept and that quorums are the only thing that qualifies a CM’s seat, not a father’s ‘gift placement’ shamelessly and undemocratically accepted. Heck even term limitless Mubarak-Gaddaffi style LKS would not make the central committee in DAP if there were OPEN ELECTIONS in undemocratic DAP.

 

 

ARTICLE 4

We despise violence – Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:33

Twenty-five years ago at the Kuala Lumpur Thean Hou Temple, the ruling and opposition party took the same stand and protested against the authority for allocating teachers who did not understand Chinese to hold high positions in Chinese primary schools. Twenty-five years later, how could there be an attempt violent at the rally intended to protest against the shortage of teachers in Chinese primary school?

People strongly condemned the violent incident during the Himpunan Hijau 2.0 rally on 26 February, but why didn’t they severely condemn the violent attempt at the rally?

I can only say that the Malaysian political struggle has incandesced and the people’s emotions have been stirred up. It is now an either you or I die battle.

Unfortunately, the attempt violence has shifted the focus which should be on the call to solve the serious shortage of Chinese vernacular school teachers. Who can still remember the four major motions passed by the rally? The incident has led to a war of words and more important works has been forgotten.

Violence used at any rallies can actually be studied from two angles.

Firstly, it is undeniable that politics has distorted the people’s sense of right or wrong and judgement. It is common to see double-standard practices.

They condemn severely when supporters of the other party use violence but when supporters of their own party do the same, they claim that the victim has self-directed the incident or deserves the violent treatment. If the situation goes on like this, the Malaysian politics will not only become a joke, but as well continue to sink.

It is not the first time to see the act of violence. It is worrisome that people might become insensitive as it is increasingly common.

Politicians are busy staging shows and have completely ignored the act of violence, or even assault. It is indeed a connivance.

There is only one standard for right and wrong. No one should play with the law to achieve political purposes. If the ruling and opposition parties do not follow the established rules of the game, even a general election would not be able to resolve contradictions and the society will be in a state of unrest.

Most horribly, isolated act of violence might evolve into collective acts of violence, which could destroy the country.

Secondly, if grievances and emotions have been provoked continuously but no way to vent the anger is provided, it would become a violent force, resulting in the loss of control.

The accumulation of grievances might go on for decades, such as the unfair treatment received by Chinese education. However, it could also be an unexpected event, like the rare-earth refinery plant issue.

When grievances are accumulated, the confrontation will become increasingly fierce. Grievances would affect rationality and they take it as an act of justice to knock down the other party, no matter by what kind of means.

Stirring up emotions, including exposing scandals of the authorities, also has a strong vote gaining effect. When emotions become increasingly passionate, rationality will relatively abate. It will be useless no matter how well the ruling party does.

Therefore, those in power must listen to public opinion and adjust their policies to relieve social grievances and avoid emotional voting.

A society tolerating, or even advocating, violence must be a problematic society. We should despise violence or the acts of violence will destroy the rule of law and civilisation.

-Sin Chew Daily

Commentator comments :

Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:49 posted by @Truemalaysian

If there was an assault, how come there is no recording of it? How come none of the security personnels surrounding and protecting him see anything, and if there was, how come nobody was arrested?

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They have the tech (including make up rooms etc..) to fake ANYTHING for visual as of now. Want to see a contrived lockdown? They can even FAKE a riot, complete with bloodied people etc.. Much like MB killer Ambiga suddenly begins leading Bersih 2.0 then refusing to run for election. They are just not using this tech based method of fake film yet until they have the ‘psychic underlay’ standardized to complete the faking sense, if not find a fake Anwar to sodomise another Saiful etc. to leak a video AGAIN.

Aggravated homosexuality charges anyone? Especially for Muslims and the lack of UNHCR Article 18 rights (Constitutional Article 11 of Malaysia’s Constitution), this should be a death sentence if the BN bunch get too nervous whether or not the ‘psychic’ underlay is ready or not. They’ll hire some animator to make all their worst enemies do any reputation ruining scenarios at worst and then pass judgment with that ‘crony panel’ (especially in such political cases – unless the foreign Unis these LEGAL JUNTA got their degrees from will withdraw those degrees and kick them out of their Greek Alphabet and Masonic clubs to becom degreeless) they call a Judiciary.

 

ARTICLE 5

What matters to ordinary Malaysians is not privileges but their rights – LETTERS/SURAT = Thursday, 29 March 2012 admin-s

It is always and all about: see what we are doing for the Malays; see what development we have brought for you; look at the roads and expressways; look at the future of public transport and rail systems we promise to build; witness the billionaires we are creating; and so on and so forth.

J. D. Lovrenciear

If you go by the standard operating procedures of the BN political machinery and practice, for the past fifty over years, and more so in the past thirty years, ‘privileges’ has been the sanctioned and sacrosanct principle.

But if you take inventory of the DAP, PKR and PAS manifestations, it is easily noticeable that they are selling ‘rights’. Their thrust has been – especially from the pre-2008 election year to now, one of returning to the man and woman in the street their basic and fundamental rights as citizens and as humans.

As society progresses in thought and feelings over time, humanity awakens to the importance of rights. Society begins to register an understanding that privileges belonged to the feudalistic era of bygone times.

Privileges belonged to a time a time and space where the masses would glorify their rulers and lords for whatever the powers-that-be would have spared for the masses. The masses would say, “at least my master gave me this.”

But man is no more beholden to politicians and leaders and rulers. Man – all over the world is now saying, “you are there because we put you there.”

‘Rights’ therefore has become the mantra of contemporary politics.

Rights is also the product of the seeds of religion that was sowed since the dawn of Islam and Christianity. Today, if you witness the Egyptian Spring, it is no surprise as it is the precipitation of the people’s reaction to the long ignored ‘rights’ and the much favored ‘privileges’ by the authorities.

The same would apply in China, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines or anywhere in the world. We have entered a new age and awakening – thanks to technology, and more so because humanity is evolving, lest we forget.

Today, in Malaysia, if you observe the BN political mantras and preaching and actions, it is very clear it is one that is solidly anchored on privileges. It is always and all about: see what we are doing for the Malays; see what development we have brought for you; look at the roads and expressways; look at the future of public transport and rail systems we  promise to build; witness the billionaires we are creating; and so on and so forth.

In summary BN is a firm believer in the philosophy of creating privileges for the masses. So do not question how the political leaders live their lives. Just be grateful how well BN has given you something along the way.

Now, on that same wavelength, if you were to summarize the opposition parties’ preaching and promises and actions, they are consistently championing the returning of the rights of the rakyat.

The right to free education; the right to knowledge of the ‘how and what’ of businesses undertaken by government and affecting the man in the street (i.e. through the abolishing of the OSA, for example); the right to information (i.e. the abolishing of the Printing and Publishing Act); the rights of religion and religious practices; and many more ‘rights’ of the rakyat is what the opposition is peddling.

Now who among the two political groups – BN and Opposition, is doing the right thing at the right time?

The world around us is full of evidence that humanity is all about rights and not privileges. The new century we are operating in is one that liberates the human soul through technology, knowledge capital and faith. And as much as religion teaches and technology supports this quest to be liberated, the rights of humanity will be the fulcrum of politics today for tomorrow.

Commentator comments :

written by Hakim Joe, March 29, 2012 09:21:40
J. D. Lovrenciear, what are you talking about here? Malaysians already have these “rights” as enshrined in the Constitution. What we do not possess is the privilege of exercising these “rights”. Voting Opposition is the right way of attempting to wrestle back these “privileges” but can anyone really trust the politicians from both side of the political divide?

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J. D. Lovrenciear is indeed white washing the failures to keep election promises and massive abuses or undemocratic practices by PR. The 4th last paragraph is particularly propaganda like. Try 3rd Force instead and be careful of people like JD, mercenary writers . . .

ARTICLE 6

Why discriminate against straight people? – Thursday, 22 March 2012 Super Admin (Raja Petra Kamaruddin)

Anyway, why are you just focusing on gays? Do only gays pay tax? Straight people pay tax as well. So why are you not also taking into consideration straight people? As you said, 30% of Malaysians are gays. That means 70% are straight. So straight people are the majority. And since Malaysia is a democracy, don’t the needs of the majority count?

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

The government needs to create a “homosexual rehabilitation centre” to combat the phenomenon in Malaysia, according to Barisan Nasional MP who today claimed 30% of Malaysian men were gay.

According to a Bernama Online report, Datuk Baharum Mohamad (BN-Sekijang) said in Parliament today that this was to aid those with homosexual tendencies or engaged in same-sex relationships to stop such behaviour.

“We have to find a solution to combat these activities from getting rampant just like the efforts we take to combat drugs,” Baharum said.

“A study has found that, right now, three out of 10 men in Malaysia are gay. This is scary.” (The Malaysian Insider)

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Dear Datuk Baharum Mohamad,

I refer to your proposal in Parliament yesterday and would like to say that I found it most interesting. Sometimes I wish I had stood for elections so that I can be in Parliament to participate in these most stimulating debates. Alas, I am resigned to the fact that I am only able to witness these Parliament debates on TV. And since I live in the UK, the only Parliament debates I can witness are those on BBC, which means I get to see only the UK Parliament debates.

I must admit that the UK Parliament debates are quite boring. They only debate issues like the world economy, how to ensure that the UK is spared the economic onslaught and can survive the next three years intact without any severe hardship to the 71 million British citizens, how to reduce unemployment, how to provide homes for the homeless, how to ensure that the old and sick are taken care off, how to improve the British education system so that students receive the best and world-class education, how to achieve zero-racism in the UK and moves to impose heavy penalties for all and any acts of racism, and whatnot.

Sometimes I wonder why I even waste my precious time watching these Parliament debates when I could get better entertainment following Malaysian Parliament debates about the need to set up rehabilitation centres for gays.

I am quite surprised that you said only 30% of Malaysians are gays. I think I remember reading somewhere that the figure is as high as 50%. But maybe that includes closet gays as well. I take it you are talking about those who have come out of the closet. Anyway, 30% or 50% is not really the issue that concerns me. What does is the fact that you are proposing facilities for just male gays while leaving out those female gays and those who are straight.

I take it your interest is to ensure that you can ‘turn over’ gays to become straight. Hmm…turning over gays. That was no pun intended but don’t you find it quite hilarious that you want the government to turn over gays? I mean, gays are already turning over, if you know what I mean. So you probably meant that they should be turned over the other way.

Anyway, why are you just focusing on gays? Do only gays pay tax? Straight people pay tax as well. So why are you not also taking into consideration straight people? As you said, 30% of Malaysians are gays. That means 70% are straight. So straight people are the majority. And since Malaysia is a democracy, don’t the needs of the majority count?

For example, according to PDRM, the 2007 report shows that 0.5% of fatal traffic accidents are caused by drunk drivers. This would mean 99.5% of fatal traffic accidents are caused by those who do not drink. Hence, why would we need to send drivers who drink for rehabilitation? Instead, we should be sending all those drivers who do not drink for rehabilitation. If non-drinkers cause 99.5% of fatal traffic accidents, then non-drinkers are dangerous and should not be allowed to drive. And they should be sent for rehabilitation and not be allowed to drive unless they start drinking. Hence fatal traffic accidents would be reduced drastically.

If you were to read the Quran, you will see that an entire chapter has been devoted to adultery. The Islamic law of Hudud also addresses this issue and has laid down severe punishment for adultery. Hence Islam is more concerned with adultery than gays. Even the Ten Commandments say you shall not bonk your neighbour’s wife. It does not say you shall not bonk your neighbour’s husband.

Adultery is a more serious problem compared to those who indulge in a gay lifestyle. So should the government not also set up rehabilitation centres for adulterers and adulteresses who are straight?

Why are only gays given attention? As you said, only 30% of Malaysians are gay. There are more adulterers and adulteresses amongst straight people. I am sure for every one gay that you detect you could probably detect ten straight adulterers and adulteresses. So should we not also extend this rehabilitation service to straight adulterers and adulteresses? They too pay tax. Should not they too receive the benefit of the tax they are paying?

Another problem, which is even more serious, is corruption. Corruption is even more damaging to the country compared to people bonking each other or gays turning each other over (this time pun intended). People who give as well as receive bribes should both be rehabilitated, just like gays who give as well as receive should be rehabilitated (again, pun intended).

I am not sure whether the government should set up just one rehabilitation centre in each district with different sections or whether there should be separate rehabilitation centres for gays, straight adulterers and adulteresses, people who give and receive bribes, drivers who do not drink, people who cheat in the elections, people who lie and distort the truth, etc.

Whatever it is, I agree we need some form of rehabilitation for evildoers, deviants, perverts, transgressors, and whatnot. Malaysia is rapidly going downhill and unless we arrest the problem we may soon see the country going down a slippery slope. My only issue is that it is unfair to focus just on gays while excluding this same benefit to other tax-paying Malaysians, who are in fact paying even more tax than gays. I hope you can bring this matter up in Parliament and get a healthy debate going. Malaysia needs Parliamentarians like you to save the country.

Commentator Comments :


written by @lynn, March 23, 2012 00:55:28
Some of the people in this country are so pathetic: perpetual obsession with sex, orientation, more sex, more religion. Can’t you people see all these non-critical issues are a DIVERSION from the serious issues faced by Malaysians?

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written by earthman, March 22, 2012 22:31:50
Yes!. Malaysian Parliament debates are much much more entertaining than the boring British Parliament.

Raja Yang Mulia, you missed one crucial point. That is , the whole Malaysian Parliamentarians should be send to the ” RPK Palia Rehabilitation Center ‘ in Birmingham , UK . And the fees would be more than enough to run MT.

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written by ck, March 22, 2012 22:13:27
Thieves pocketful, nothing to do and need a diversion…

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written by Nixcloud, March 22, 2012 16:08:43
this latuk is worried cos this also means 30% of MPs are gays…. and he is the majority shareholder in clubs and brothels…

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written by Malaysiaputra, March 22, 2012 15:58:24
Huh?. Then how about using the arrested prostitutes to educate these guys about regular sex?

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written by Saint, March 22, 2012 14:35:06
On a serious note, the government should pay attention to the woes of “divorced women” (especially Muslims), “abandoning newly born children” and “child abuse”. The UMNOBN government is a joke as they are no more in touch with the Rakyat. ABU

+21


written by petman, March 22, 2012 13:14:06
I’ve said it before, we need to get take power from the politicians. Most of them are either corrupt or stupid, or both. I’m seriously thinking of starting a technocracy movement. Those in favor of a technocracy, mod my post up!

ABP!! (Anyone but politicians!!)

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written by fireduck, March 22, 2012 12:59:59
Don’t worry, folks, the Obedient Wives Club and its horny members will come to the rescue. They will make the gays straight (pun intended) and stiff in no time. State-sponsored sex parties, willing service providers, desired outcome (still questionable) …. super good plan.

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written by Apeiron, March 22, 2012 12:06:44
The suggestion of setting up a “gay rehabilitation centre”, though sounds plain silly, is a political smoke-screen to get the Rakyat riled up and engaged in a public debate, both in the blogs and in coffee shop gossips, to condemn such “immoral activities”. We all know that the PR leader, aspiring to be the next PM, would be the target.

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written by mbz777, March 22, 2012 11:11:42
aiya, why so troublesome? just follow the law in Quran or Torah the best deterrent is for all evildoers, parade them around town from morning till evening then stone them to death in the middle of the town square la this planet is over-inhabited already after all that’s why we should have hudud! then all the Malaysia Chicken A*****es (MCA), National of Cows (NFC) and United MongoliaN Orgy (UMNO) members can all be exterminated from the face of our beautiful land! How nice will M’sia be then?

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written by wangi, March 22, 2012 10:34:39
I heard that among the activities of the proposed “homosexual rehabilitation centre”, is one where the centre will provide sex partners from the opposite sex for the gays. The purpose is to show to the gays that sex with members of the opposite sex is much, much better, more fun and more fulfilling.

So to all of you ‘gatal’ heterosexuals who wants to take advantage, pretend to be gay and get ready to line-up and get yourselves admitted to the “homosexual rehabilitation centre” once they are opened.

Free accommodation, free food and free sex.

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written by Sribayu, March 22, 2012 10:29:48
The Quran, which contains references on the previous events also found in the original Gospel Torah & The Bible. For every disease there is a sign, symptom and the causes. Quran don’t come with anything new and the Koran is filled with by prognoses. Just look at the ancient nations mentioned in the Quran and the people that Allah destroyed before.

They come with nothing new and its all the same old game. The games that the people playing today are the same games played before but with different names despite numerous warnings of the destructive consequences of their wrong conduct, they haven’t heeded. Ask them to look at the historical evidence in this regard to see what happened to the ancient nation of Aad, Thamud & Pharaoh. Quran shows us the same signs and symptom and telling us what the cause was. The Quran says”; “If you get the same decease that they had then you have the same prognoses that they have”.

(Quran: 6/45)
The sins which bring about the downfall of a people are numerous, the topmost being injustice, or better still, unfairness, saying clearly: The people, who are unfair, have their roots cut”.

(Matthew 15:19)
“For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, and blasphemies”

(Quran: 7: 130)
“And indeed We punished the people of Pharaoh with years of drought and shortness of fruits (crops), that they might remember (take heed).”

(Genesis 19:24)
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven.

And this is again and again in the Quranic narratives, Torah & The Bible we see the same affliction or diseases affected human being till now.
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written by alfchuah, March 22, 2012 10:04:48
Can I suggest to the government, where more buildings are to be built and more money to be corrupted – why stop at gay rehabilitation center? I say, we should have a center for every sexual act! There are 3 kinds of blow job that come to mind. And there’s making out, there’s S&M, there’s outdoor sex, there’s car sex, there’s sex in a public toilet, there’s cyber sex, there’s frottage, there’s porn addiction, there’s BDSM, there’s orgy – Malaysian demand you build every such center for every sexual act! Why only benefit gay people? Do you not want other people, especially Muslim, to be the utmost obedient followers in the bedroom and otherwise?

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written by alfchuah, March 22, 2012 09:57:23
I say “hallelujah, it’s raining men!!!” We all know this is only another lie to spend money on behalf of Malaysian, in the name of gay.

RPK, when the first center is opening, could you please help promote it – I’m sure you know several closeted big queens in the government – who better than them to set up example for the public. I beg of you to yank them out of the closet, only you can do it ever so fabulously.

Gay rehabilitation center: read closely “gay” and “center”, in other words, a center full of gays, a rainbow spectrum of gays under the same roof. I can see how the government is ever so helpful and cheeky about legalizing homosexuality in this country by letting all gay men fraternize, socialize and sodomize in a one-stop center. I’m all for happy endings; it’s a free world, no one asks you to have gay sex if you are not gay – do gay people have straight vaginal sex?

All in the name of good governance. We have MACC – corruption gets worse; we have PDRM – well, we all know what goes down on that boat; we have the so-called government performance index, which even viagra couldn’t help raise its pole; we have a judiciary system – where new precedents of murder and corruption are made daily, where motive isn’t a factor for a murder and if you don’t use the corrupted money personally you’re not guilty; so now we have a gay rehabilitation center, I say, Malaysia is on its way to become the world’s first Muslim country to be completely homosexual and gay (happy) about it.

+18


written by malgal, March 22, 2012 09:45:19
they keep hitting the trees, our ministers.
rpk’s letter at least helped suspend my chronic toothache. i could laugh through the pain(tooth pain notwithstanding).

+14


written by Vic, March 22, 2012 09:39:26
Here are 2 examples of our beloved MPs respond to quires in Parliament. Aprt from the above, I wonder how many percent is such and should we keep them or get kick them out because based on their experts opinion of Malaysia we are DOOMED.
Example 1: “It is not at a critical level at the moment. Our limit or threshold is 55 percent of the Gross Domestic Product, we are now at 53 percent. So you don’t have to worry about it,” Awang told a stunned Parliament this morning.
Example 2: Kong Cho Ha is the second one who needs a thorough tongue-lashing for sheer lack of brains and thinking ability. When asked by DAP’s Tony Pua to explain the rising cost of the KLIA2 relocation and what was the rational behind choosing the new airport site, Kong’s grand answer was that it was because it was “based on the KLIA Blueprint December 2008”.

Dear Fellow Malaysian, Its look like we have elected these goons to run the country down not the other way round. We are so full of SHITS.

+20


written by Apek, March 22, 2012 09:16:26
May I stand to remind the supposedly learned member from Sekijang that to arrest a citizen and deprive him of his liberty, the crime must be clear and definite. It cannot be based on hearsay or blank allegation but must be tested against a well defined character of a crime. Now, how does the member of Sekijang define gay? Is is a personal trait that we are to look out for? Is it an act? Is it a word that someone says? Or is it defined based on what you think in your infinite wisdom that – “itu budak lembut”.

The stupidity of your comment in the August House can be further demonstrated by your suggestion that tax payers rehabilitate them. What is there to rehabilitate if you have not first defined what the criminal act or the criminal mind is (Oh sorry, now after Altantuya’s case, there is no need for criminal mind). What syllabus is there to make them straight? For that matter, what is straight? Can we define straight by Chua’s actions maybe? How about Port Dickson trips? Is that straight?

It occurs to me that the member of Sekijang has merely fired off his mouth merely to impress upon his political masters of his grovelling loyalty to their cause of attempting and attempting again to smear the name of certain members of Parliament. It is proof that no one is listening to Nalla in the Upper House and no one is listening to Umi Hafilda in the open streets – however much they prostitute themselves.

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written by syd, March 22, 2012 08:16:28
In the west, it was revealed that some children were abused by the priests. What makes everyone think that this happens only in the west? I am sure that the religious mullahs and monks are also having a great time sexually abusing the children put under their care. Hence many become transvestite in Thailand as monkhood is compulsory for buddhist. And many malay male undergrads walk funny as they are sexually abused in sekolah agama asrama and other government boarding schools.

These poor children have nobody to relate their problems to. Their parents have enough trying to feed and educate them. If your kids have poor exam results, eat poorly and always sick and misses classes, better start talking to them. Normally, these kids will shut their mouth and suffer in silence.

+34


written by Downunder, March 22, 2012 07:55:40
30% Malaysians are gays, it means 60% of all Malaysian men are gays. Wouldn’t that gays are actually in the majority? How many % are lesbians?

+7


written by ZamZamAlaKazam, March 22, 2012 07:53:14
…when your version of your religion is the only faithful one – in fact your religion is the only righteous one, and when your class of race is the equitable one, and when your form of aids to your class of race is the only equitable one, and when your type of political party(ies) is the only legitimate one, your version of education system/history/policy/___ (fill in the blank) is the only proper and valid one … well that’s what is happening. And here in MT you could see that many think that their opinion is the only right one.

We still have a long way to go, and we must ensure that we are moving in the straight, err… right direction..

[[[ *** RESPONSE *** ]]]

Flippant. You know how this reads?

RPK goes . . . And since Malaysia is a democracy, don’t the needs of the majority count? . . . then . . . My only issue is that it is unfair to focus just on gays while excluding this same benefit to other tax-paying Malaysians

How ingenuous can someone so well traveled and involved in politics get? The minorities and how minoritiers are treated is what typifies a democracy, not the other way around. For example, in Africa, the Chinese minorities get Special Privileges BECAUSE they are minorities. So by saying ‘don’t the needs of the majority count’ Raja Petra is tacitly approving Bumiputra APARTHEID in which the needs of the minorities are ignored for the needs of the majority. There is nothing more unpleasant than a homophobic faux-beatnik wearing a Maoist cap who is pretending o be persecuted by the state, that spews racism as if the readers are incapable of fathoming what they are spewing. Very disappointing RPK, lets hope Tengku Dr. Haris is not a false flag pretending to boycott you as well RPK. We’d like to think there were proponents of REAL Royal exceptionalism instead of manipulative b.s. couched in half baked propaganda articles.

At first to save face from homophobic statements, now Petra goes hudud on everyone as well. Adultery is bad but should not be treated in this ‘lock them up in rehab’ (suggested along with LGBTs) manner – Hate Speech Crime so nicely and cleverly put IS STILL Hate Speech Crime – insincerity will not be forgiven even if intelligent and charismatic – civilisational values will not give way to mere intelligence, guess which race has trhe lowest EQ again? Or shall we just say this is something that afflicts the older generation? Don’t like LGBT, fine, but live and let live. Why attack like this?  I’m glad that the MCLM bunch left RPK though articles in MalaysiaToday are still very good . . .

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/from-around-the-blogs/46282-why-rpk

….. Stump-jumpin’ Jethro is using all three of his brain cells to talk! … RPK is effectively going, QUOTE ‘ I hate everybody irrelevant of other issues . . . ‘ UNQUOTE ‘JOHN F. HICKORY’ (VCPR)

Politically incorrect and manipulative in a very bad way. To distract from the earlier homophobia by using Theocracy now? Would say ‘Durian sama bangsa . . . ‘, but sorry, still too damn white . . . ‘ . . . 100% purebreeds only . . . we can’t have Mahathir Kuttys posing as Bumis while other Mamaks are not equal, and RPK is still trying to justify homophobia of the earlier article by widening the groups to discriminate against – adulterers – now via hudud no less!

Adulterers belong in a lower strata (not being rich enough to afford 2nd, 3rd or 4th wives or just envious of womenfolk of others without wanting the lifetime’s duty, wanting to be Muslim but unable to follow rules – though unable to change religion as well . . . ), but to use Hudud/theocracy against them in the form of suggesting ‘rehab centres’ for what is after all personal issues, instead of challenging the same by encouraging personal discipline, and advocating personal boycotts (by outlets like hotels etc..) at most of adultry is just ‘fundo-low’. What may seem a serious social issue is personal and private (also should be sued privately, and not ‘rehabbed’ via state apparatus)  in too many ways, regardless of the great numbers. Not easy for adulterers to be Muslims as well, and the corporeal punishment is just plain barbaric. How about counselling instead?

It’s their business, so when we find someone trying to institutionalise and rehabilitate instead of advocating districts or expulsions for whatever behaviour, we identify the closet authoritarians and closet dicators and closet theocrats apart from the ‘Voltarian’ minded people of the world. More epic fail, RPK! But what would we expect from a half blood prince in their 60s . . . too toff and stuffy while posing as ‘socially aware cool’, and not a word on ending apartheid thus far.

 

 

ARTICLE 7

‘WHY NOT EAT DOGS?’ Submitted by Najiah on Friday, March 12th, 2010 – Darshini Kandasamy – Friday, March 12th, 2010 12:14:00

* Datuk Dr Ahmad Suhaimi Omar
* dogs for human consumption
* Local
* Veterinary Services Department (DVS)

PETALING JAYA: Despite public furore, Veterinary Services Department (DVS) deputy directorgeneral, Datuk Dr Ahmad Suhaimi Omar, is sticking by his suggestion last week that stray dogs held at pounds be sold for human consumption — as a method of stray management.

While acknowledging it was a “sensitive” statement, the DVS deputy DG in charge of veterinary health, told The Malay Mail his words were unnecessarily ‘sensationalised’.

He insisted that the suggestion would create a “win-win” situation, explaining that stray dogs captured are now kept for seven days — and humanely euthanised if the dogs remained unclaimed after the week.

“Once the dog is caught and nobody claims it, what do you suggest we do? If people want to consume (dogs), why not let them?

“We have to pay for euthanasia as it has to be done professionally by a veterinarian. In any case, who are we to euthanise any animal?” posed Dr Ahmad.

If the slaughter of an animal is for the purpose of consumption, Dr Ahmad argued that “in principle, most religions would basically allow the slaughter”.

Still, he pointed out that he was not asking people to just eat dog meat. He argued that foreigners like the Vietnamese and Koreans consume dog meat; and understood this was a sensitive issue for Malaysian culture and standards.

“We should not impose our values onto others. If you cannot eat dog meat, you cannot stop me from taking it. Like pork, for example. I cannot eat it but I cannot stop you from eating it.

“This is how we have been able to live harmoniously in Malaysia. We have to be open. It is an individual decision, if others want to eat it, it is up to them.”

Stating he was merely throwing in the idea, he told The Paper That Cares: “I knew it was sensitive, I purposely said it. It was high time to say it. The NGOs are all against it and I know the dog is a pet to most of us.”

Even a farmer, who has raised his cattle lovingly would not be willing to eat the animal when slaughtered, he noted.

“I do stress that if the dogs are to be slaughtered, it must then be done properly and there should be no cruelty at all.”

Dr Ahmad also claimed that while there were a few people who objected to his suggestion at the forum on effective animal pound management, organised by the Petaling Jaya Municipal Council Canine Advisory Team on March 2, he felt the body language of many there suggested they were “excited” by his words.

The suggestion to sell caught stray dogs for consumption will help ease the system and reduce the council’s problem.

“Let this be a lesson to pet owners to not let their dogs stray. It is a matter of responsible pet ownership. We have to educate pet owners, but this will take a long time.”
Howling in horror over statements
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CHIN: Labels Dr Ahmad’s suggestion ‘barbaric’

KUALA LUMPUR: Animal lovers are up in arms over the suggestion by Veterinary Services Department’s (DVS) top man condoning the slaughter of stray dogs for human consumption.

Describing the suggestion as barbaric, the Selangor Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) is now demanding that DVS deputy director-general (veterinary health) Datuk Dr Ahmad Suhaimi Omar, retract this suggestion.

Visibly upset, SPCA chaiman Christine Chin told The Malay Mail that SPCA was extremely disappointed with Dr Ahmad’s suggestion — especially in view of his position as the “number two or three person in DVS, who should be promoting humane, sustainable, effective and acceptable solutions to the stray problem”.

“He is not a nobody,” Chin pointed out. “As a possible DVS director-general candidate, he is supposed to be protecting the animals.

“He is in charge of prosecuting people who are cruel to animals.”

While she felt Dr Ahmad did make some good suggestions during the March 2 forum on effective animal pound management, Chin described the dog meat suggestion as having thrown DVS back to the dark ages and undermined every bit of good DVS had ever done, especially in drafting its 2008 guidelines on humane dog-catching methods.

Stating that Dr Ahmad’s suggestion was “barbaric, inhumane, provocative, unbelievable and incredulous”, she said: “We are a society that doesn’t eat dogs. It is not a custom in Malaysia.

“Even in China, animal lovers have banded together to seek legal amendments to ban the consumption of dogs and cats. In Taiwan, it is illegal. What about cats?”

Meanwhile, Malaysian animalassisted therapy society for the disabled and elderly (Petpositive) president, Anthony Thanasayan, described Dr Ahmad’s suggestion as “misplaced and terribly insensitive.”
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THANASAYAN: Dogs are life savers

He said the suggestion only reflected how out of touch DVS was.

“That he thinks dogs are only good as food on the table shows what he thinks of the role animals have been playing in our society, especially today.

“Dr Ahmad must remember that if a building falls down and he gets caught in the rubble, it is not a chicken that will come to save him. He would have to rely on the dog he suggests we eat.”

He said dogs are loving and play a positive role such as saving people’s lives and helping those in need of therapy.

Noting sarcastically that Dr Ahmad may have felt he was being clever, Thanasayan said the suggestion was purely a cerebral statement and not from the heart.

“Whatever he was trying or hoping to do, it did not work… he might as well ask us to eat our children.”

Thanasayan also pointed out that dogs from the pounds often carried disease and no one would want to or should eat such meat.

[[[ *** RESPONSE *** ]]]

Don’t attack Dr. Ahmad for being outspoken in his approach to wasting what is after all edible food. This is only in reference to animals fit for eating. Probably most strays would not qualify and I doubt Dr. Ahmad was referring to the thin, sickly and diseased stray but the heavily fleshed and well fed medium and large breeds which are to be put down or abandoned by ex-owners. But still a rather unpleasant but likely viable cottage industry for scavenging the remains of these strays could be made if Veterinary Department made proper arrangements with the stern of heart and strong of stomach to separate the edible portions of the sickest strays from the inedible parts.

This low grade meat of course would likely end up as feed for other carnivorous animals like edible reptiles or amphibians, just to give an example and the very inedible but still organic portions would be best left for snail and worm rearers. Blood can also be drained and processed into other edible products which could be perhaps sold to commercial fish feed makers or such. Did you know that many organic waste sources from farming are processed in this manner into feed products too? Nothing should be wasted in this day and age. Rat catchers could make a small fortune rearing edible food animals which do not mind eating rat or which will not be affected by disease carried by rats.

Of course if not disposed in this ecologically friendly manner after being put down, carcasses will pollute the environment to no one’s benefit if they take up space in decaying landfills producing global warming methane, or pollute the air by cremation. Let’s not attribute Dr. Ahmad’s scientific based familiarity with the stark practicalities in the animal husbandry/feed business to being callous. The flesh/organs/bones of the dead pet, especially if not diseased or too old, are still obviously nutritious and life giving and can be sold as viable restaurant grade meat to better fund the Veterinary Department or at the very least made into a nutritious broth for non-vegetarian soup kitchens.

So if something edible is thrown away, or put into a wooden box, then buried to breed dangerous microbes for decades when there are hungry people on the street who would appreciate the sustenance, throwing away or consigning to rot what is in effect FOOD would be SINFUL. Think of the eco-friendly efficiency of the Zoroastrian “Towers of Silence” and you get what I mean. There is a brutally efficient cycle in nature, and letting emotion get the better of logic instead of thinking green will result in a world filled with cemetaries of dead husks better put to work back in the increasingly depleted soil. Even sewage should be processed properly via natural biological methods instead of being sent to the ocean to pollute and poison the environment.

The Chinese ate dogs until the Dog Worshipping Manchu’s forbade it. Koreans very much treat dog meat as a regular part of their diet. Tycoon Li Ka Shing has an entire label of canned dog meat being sold in his convenience stores. Dog meat plants throng in many parts of Asia. There are also fish, pigs and cows which are pets of people. Does this mean that all these types of animals are to be considered inedible because some are treated as pets??? Stop this dietary fascism! Though concession on the spiritual issue of allowing an animal to live the course of natural life in a natural environment (that means not being stuck in the home of a psychotic supposedly ‘doting’ owner who does not ask if that animal wants to live among others of it’s own kind or that thinks neutering without consent (many pets can’t communicate that they don’t want neutering but their owners send them off for castration or spaying at the equally EQ-dead Veterinary Surgeon anyway), or being stuck in a circus FOREVER working but never earning (the biggest PAYDAY for an animal if FREEDOM, NOT daily food which it can hunt or forage on it’s own WITHOUT any human ‘oversight AFTER licving habitates are destroyed by the same humans – little wonder caged animals want to kill humans so much . . . ) or never being allowed to retire, having a timetable non-consensually . . . ) AND that vegetarians are ‘cleaner’ though far less suitable for certain types of work in society (i.e. meat eating soldiers more effective etc..), cannot be argued against.

Bears

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/circus-animal-cruelty.html

http://jerrybrice.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/ice-skating-captive-bear-kills-circus-owner-in-bishkek-kyrgyzstan/

http://rt.com/news/rampaging-circus-bear-kills/comments/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8320849.stm

Elephants

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article3256472.ece

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/12/7/nation/20111207182804&sec=nation

http://www.snopes.com/critters/malice/elephant.asp

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/elephant-kills-trekking-veterinary-student-in-malaysia-20111208-1ufz3.html

Tigers

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1997-05-09/news/9705090201_1_franzen-lucca-circus

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/disasters/06-10-2010/115243-lion_attacks_trainer-0/

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-05-09/news/9705090301_1_franzen-brothers-circus-circus-workers-tiger

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-28/news/mn-4918_1_bengal-tiger

http://www.kidzworld.com/article/3896-animals-in-captivity

Chimpanzees

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-02-16/us/chimp.attack_1_sandra-herold-chimp-travis?_s=PM:US

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,494067,00.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6661427

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1880229,00.html

http://africanconservation.org/forum/news-archives-around-africa/1178-chimpanzee-kills-kigoma-town-resident

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/06/100621-science-chimpanzees-chimp-gangs-kill-mitani/

Did the above bears, elephants, tigers and chimpanzees consent to doing any work for anyone? To perform for your entertainment? To be controlled during ‘musth‘ ? Much like human rights, animals also have their rights. To live in a community of their own species, to not be isolated, to refuse to do heavy work or perform at any time (well at least up to the point of humane work hours with days off AND with the right to retire on a ‘pension’ . . . Prevention of Cruelty to Animals needs to consider these FACTS. Not just about appearing naked or throwing paint on fur . . .) Now think, if any human being were subject to the above, would they not want to rip someone’s heart out? Some animals out of a colony of the same species who CHOOSE and can be encouraged (not manipulated or forced in isolation) to perform consensually, could still continue performing but these should be few and far between if anything.

Conversely, as the saying goes, “Do not play with your food.” now also learn this : “Do not befriend your food.” The former owner had already neglected the animal or deemed it be put down, or cannot afford to support the animal any more. The buyer of the dog meat would have no emotional bond, nor would the soul of the animal know any difference if it’s physical husk is used to satiate someone’s hunger. If a dead pet is edible, please do the right thing and feed the hungry ! Use local stitched pelts to clothe the cold in temperate countries. Make useful products like bone meal to feed other pets or even livestock. If you prefer to bury a dead pet animal underground so that as to weep over the carcass every year, remember, the planet would eventually be filled with graveyards of dead pets competing with the living humans in driving up land prices further just to stoke the egos of the selfish while nutrients are sequestered away in coffins or urns instead of enriching the soil again as nature intended, even as living humans are already finding it increasingly expensive to have their own dead interred. Is Dr. Ahmad’s solution so unthinkable now when viewed holistically? This logic also may be applied to humans as well (think soylent greem), and population and space levels have not yet reached a saturation point but eventually the same problem will creep up on us in time if hastened with this form of inconsiderate indulgence which sequesters the space of the living and impacts the future for the living and mankind.

BUT, this ‘ownership of pets’ thing is an abomination unless at a certain level of space and species-colony association, probably the only pet owners will be peole with fair sized tracts of land to build habitats of a size able to simulate natural surroundings for the animal and accomodate a reasonable colony of that animal FROM which the owner could begin considering ‘training’ for performance . . . think – a single pride of 5-10 lions requires up to 100 miles of hunting space, WTH is a circus cage and isolation you cruel f***s ??? . . . meat though, should NOT be wasted.

Animal Welfare Related Responses – repoasted by @AgreeToDisagree – 6th February 2012

In animal welfare, bear bile, nature reserve, political correctness, spirit of the law, spiritual abuse, zoo are failures on February 4, 2012 at 9:14 am

ARTICLE 1

Bears kept in tiny cages by Chinese for their bile ‘commit suicide’ with hunger strikes to escape barbaric torture – by Suzannah Hills – Last updated at 3:15 PM on 3rd February 2012

Bears kept in tiny cages by the Chinese who harvest their bile are starving themselves to death as their only way of escaping the misery of their captivity.

An estimated 12,000 bears are kept in captivity in China and Vietnam to harvest bile, a digestive juice stored in the gall bladder, which is prized in traditional Chinese medicine.

The bears are often kept in ‘crush cages’, measuring about 2ft 6ins by 4 ft 2ins, forcing them to lie on their backs and making it easier for the ‘farmer’ to draw the bile through a tube inserted into the bear’s stomach. A caged bear is raised for bile extraction at a private restaurant in Van Dinh town, Northern province of Ha Tay,Vietnam for nearly two years

Now animal rights campaigners claim that the creatures have been witnessed deliberately starving themselves to death.

Campaigner Louis Ng said he first encountered bears on ‘hunger strike’ during a visit to a Laotian bile farm in 2009.

When Mr Ng, the director of Animal Concerns Research and Education Society in Singapore, visited the farm in November that year he discovered a female bear lying motionless in a cage.

The owner told him the bear had been refusing food for ten days and was starving herself to death. She died the next day.

The farms generally use the Asiatic black bear, which is now listed as vulnerable on the World Conservation Union’s Red List of Threatened Animals.

Since the 1980s the number of bears farmed in Asia has increased to around 12,000 as a cost effective way to meet the demand for ursodeoxycholic acid – the active ingredient in bear bile – which has been used to treat kidney problems and stomach and digestive disorders.
Men in China have also used bear bile as an aphrodisiac or to help cure hangovers.

More recently it has been added to non-medicinal products such as wine and shampoo in China, the World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA) claims.

Mr Ng said: ‘The bile is removed from the bear by inserting a catheter tube through a permanent incision in the abdomen and gall bladder. Sometimes a permanently implanted metal tube is used.’

A captive bear having bile removed from the gall bladder with a catheter tube, which the World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA) says would be ‘incredibly painful’ for the bear’

Rescued: A bear called ‘Ben Ben’, which was saved from a bear farm in Liaoning Province after eight-year’s confinement in cages, is transferred to a bear rescue center in Chengdu, China, in 2005

Model Lisa B, actor Brian Blessed, fashion designer Elizabeth Emanuel and actress Trudie Goodwin support the WSPA (World Society for the Protection of Animals) campaign against China’s bear bile farms in 2002

THE BRUTAL TRUTH ABOUT BILE BEAR FARMS

There are still 12,000 Asiatic black bears held captive in bile farms across southeast Asia

Captive bears are kept in ‘crush cages’ measuring 2.6 feet by 4.2 feet – giving them no room to move

Many rescued bile bears are found with head injuries from repeatedly bashing their heads against their cages

China produces 7,000 kilos of bear bile a year – but only consumes 4,000

A kilo of bear bile sells for the equivalent of £1,1771

Ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA) is the active ingredient found in bear bile

In traditional Chinese medicine, UDCA is used to treat kidney problems and digestive problems

Many people in Asia also use bear bile as hemorrhoid cream or to treat cuts and bruises

Asian men have also used bear as an aphrodisiac and to cure hangovers

Scientists have developed synthetic versions of UDCA that could be used as an alternative in Chinese medicine

Bile is typically tubed from the gall bladder at least twice a day.

Chris Gee, captive bear campaigns manager for the World Society for the Protection of Animals, confirmed that it had heard reports of bears starving themselves to death, ppening but hadn’t seen any incidents firs thand.

Mr Gee said: ‘I’ve seen reports of this in the past and while we’ve never witnessed this it is true that bears in these farms do go out of their minds with frustration at their captivity.

‘They are kept in horrendous conditions with bile being extracted from their gall bladder on a daily basis. For some of them, as horrible as it is to say, death would be the best option for them.

‘On visits to these farms during our campaigns to raise awareness and try and put a stop to them we have seen bears repeatedly banging their heads against their cage bars in frustration.’

China produces 7,000 kilos of bear bile a year – worth the equivalent of £1,771 a kilo – but only consumes 4,000 kilos.

Mr Gee added: ‘Because of the discrepancies in what is produced compared to what is consumed it is highly likely that the rest is sold on the black market around the world.

‘There are now perfectly good synthetic replacements for UDCA and we are campaigning to raise awareness of this.

‘Bear bile is still used as a hemorrhoid cream, for cuts and bruises, and even for sore throats completely unnecessarily.
Brutal: The WSPA says bears at bile farms go through ‘life-long suffering’ because of the horrendous conditions they are kept in

Brutal: The WSPA says bears at bile farms go through ‘life-long suffering’ because of the horrendous conditions they are kept in
An Asiatic black bear after being released into a bear sanctuary at the Moon Bear Rescue Center at Longqiao, near Chengdu, in China’s southwest Sichuan province in 2002

An Asiatic black bear after being released into a bear sanctuary at the Moon Bear Rescue Center at Longqiao, near Chengdu, in China’s southwest Sichuan province in 2002

‘Some men have even been known to use it as a hangover cure or as a aphrodisiac because of the idea of being as a tough as a bear. ‘

Mr Ng is now setting up a rescue centre in Laos on a five-hectare site with a 12-room building for volunteers and two enclosures to accommodate 29 bears.

The £320,000 facility will be used to rehabilitate the bears after a life of captivity and is expected to be ready for volunteers by June.
Video: Warning – contains distressing images

The comments below have been moderated in advance.

This world is very very ill, the animals were given to this world for the human race to look after, and nurture , not kill for pleasure and greed…There is going to be a hard rain coming …..You betcha there is… I hope i’m not around to see it…

– mary, Cheshire, UK, 03/2/2012 15:05
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What is the particular difference between beef, pork, dog meat and bear bile? You have criticized us for eating dogs, and now this! What about your slaughter of cattle and pigs? This is unfair! – nnn, China, 3/2/2012 13:03>>>We at least try to slaughter animals for food humanely with the least suffering possible. You cram terrified dogs into cages, piled on top of one another and transport them over long distances with no food or water. Those poor bears are also confined in cages for years on end with an open sore that is dug into time and time again with not even a local anaesthetic to obtain bile which probably doesn’t even work as you think it does! Has this been scientifically proved to work? that’s the difference!!!!

– JANDOR, LEICESTER, UK, 03/2/2012 15:05
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The headline does not make sense. Are the Chinese committing suicide or are you claiming the bears are (which is ridiculous). It is a disgusting practice but less so than the slaughter of 2 million babies a year in the US.

– Sarah, Anza, CA, 03/2/2012 15:04
Rating   3

This is sickening

– Chloe, Clevedon, 03/2/2012 15:03
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Reading “nnn.China’s” rebuttal comments one can unfortunately read that he/she cannot see the difference between humane killing and inhumane killing. May as well talk to the Great wall of China! [[[ Expect unpleasant reviews of any foreign invaders in the past . . . ]]]

– Peter Martin, Espoo Finland, 03/2/2012 15:02
Rating   2

I don’t think an animal can commit suicide by choice. There not really aware of the concept and are driven by instincts. I think they may only do so not by choice but as a result of some mental condition due to their confinement, I don’t see them doing it to escape as a direct thought. This article highlights an important point but in a sensationalist style (and it did not need to).

– ashenkorren, suffolk, 03/2/2012 15:02
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nothing suprises me about Chinese.

– Andy, Toronto, 03/2/2012 15:01
Rating   2

I am continually disgusted by this inhumane (and completely unnecessary!) practice. Although I am Chinese myself, I will never advocate for any sort of cruelty towards animals. Absolutely ashamed! Fortunately, my secondary school is big on community and service work so my peers and I were able to raise enough money to save a few bears from these vile farms. It won’t make a big difference in the world, but it has made a world of difference in the eyes of the bears. If I’m not mistaken, it takes 10,000 HKD or 816 or so pounds to save a single bear.

– Thea, Hong Kong, 03/2/2012 15:01
Rating   6

This is but one aspect of animal husbandry practiced in China which goes beyond our own tastes in terms of meat etc but is also downright cruel. Just be very careful what you purchase from this country which needs to apply modern cruelty-free farming methods soonest – including animal bi-products such as fur/leather. And perhaps they should come into the 21st Century and realise that Rhino horn, (live) snake’s blood, shark’s fin, bear’s bile and other such things are no aphrodisiac or panacea for a good doctor’s diagnosis and cure. Even a herbalist could probaly apply better treatments for the supersticious of the world. The western world has its own poisons in foodstuffs etc all over the place – top of my list is aspartame – but I would personally never use any such ‘natural’ medicines which might contain cruelly obtained animal products.

– Ann, Southern Area, UK, 03/2/2012 14:50
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Chinese traditional medicine has much to answer for. – Leew, lancashire, so does western medicine, and western consumables…. have you heard about what they do to all types of different animals, during testing of products?? quite frankly , the way humans generally treat animals and their lives, with disregard is disgusting, the world over…!

– fifi, wales, 03/2/2012 14:48

[[[ *** RESPONSE *** ]]]

Continue collecting but improve the conditions as well as the technology in the collection. Let these bears roam free (also breed freely) in a ‘collection reserve’ and use painless micro or nano tubes, and micro or nano needles with automatic collection devices installed on a collar (i.e. device should be a small motor with suction and a vial for the bile which can be collected at the end of the day etc..). Otherwise collection methods are inhumane. Remember that in the wild, bears do get ticks or other small biting insects, so the micro/nano option should not cause too much disturbance or ill health effects than a single maggot wound that never heals . . . but being locked up and installed with these hideously large and very invasive machines and/or wiring is terrible! Surely China has the technology to spare so as not to be referred to as a disgraceful and cruel nation. Healing humans with fair amounts of bear bile (leave some for the bear) is fine. But don’t hurt or incarcerate the bears in the process. Also remember to give the bears ‘holidays’ and weekends where no collection is done and there is no presence of humans.

“Scientists have developed synthetic versions of UDCA that could be used as an alternative in Chinese medicine.” This synthetic option is even more harmful (probably mutagenic) in the long run and destroys the very reputation of TCM’s 100% organic reputation, nullifies the unique organic nature of TCM (perhaps intentionally?). Chinese and TCM practicioners, NEVER use a synthetic replacement when organic versions exist or such implanted/extraction devices of this size.

ARTICLE 2

Perhilitan’s animal insticts – As long as there’s demand, illegal meat trade will flourish, says Perhilitan head – IKRAM ISMAIL Friday, July 15th, 2011 14:26:00

Abd Rasid Samsudin
WILDLIFE authorities in the country have long been fighting to stem the tide of illegal trade of the meat of endangered species in the country. The issue was recently brought to the fore after a raid by the Department of Wildlife and National Park (Perhilitan) led to the discovery of 1.27kg of meat, supposedly that of the endangered Malayan sun bear, being served in a restaurant in Jalan Kuching.

The Malay Mail spoke to Perhilitan director-general DATUK ABD RASID SAMSUDIN (left) yesterday about what the department is doing to tackle the issue.

Q: Why do restaurants persist in serving dishes made from the meat of exotic and endangered species?

A: It is about demand and supply. If there is no demand for such meat, it would not be sold. For example, during the raid on July 6, there were a variety of meat being served at the restaurant but people preferred to eat dishes made from the meat of the Malayan sun bear. The case is still under investigation.

Q: Where do these restaurant operators get their supply of such meat?

A: They go through a middlemen. Orang asli, who have access to national parks and forests in the Peninsular, are being paid a small sum to hunt for the meat. It is a pity the orang asli are being used this way as many do it for the money.
Malayan sun bear

In the Wildlife Conservation Act 2010, orang asli are allowed to hunt for endangered wildlife such as deer and ayam hutan (jungle fowl) but only enough to feed themselves. Imagine, an orang asli is paid only RM380 for each Pangolin they catch, which isn’t much. However, we are not blaming their community as they are being taken advantage of by irresponsible parties.

Q: Who is tipping-off Perhilitan on such illegal trade?

A: We are proud to say we receive tip-offs from the public. More people are becoming aware of such trade and when they give us accurate information, we give them a small reward.

Q: Does Perhilitan monitor restaurants in the Klang Valley suspected of selling exotic dishes?

A: Yes. We have identified several hotspots in the Klang Valley, such as in Subang Jaya, where restaurants serve exotic dishes. Some restaurants have been raided many times but they still serve those dishes, so we have to constantly monitor them. Our aim is to find their main supplier.

Q: How many illegal traders have been arrested and charged?

A: In the last five years, we arrested and charged 170 individuals under the Wildlife Conservation Act.

Q: What action has Perhilitan taken to tackle this menace?

A: We constantly monitor our national forests. There are several laws enshrined in the new Wildlife Conservation Act 2010, which we enforce, such as Subsection 62, which states anyone who hunts or keeps the female of a protected species without a licence shall be liable to a fine not exceeding RM100,000 or imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or both.

Meanwhile, Subsection 63 stipulates any person who carries out wildlife trade or taxidermy without a licence shall be liable to a fine not exceeding RM50,000 or imprisonment up to two years or both, upon conviction.

Q: How many animal species are protected by Perhilitan?

A: There are 2,120 protected endangered species and subspecies. We also protect several non-endangered animals, such as wildboar and monkeys, in order to preserve the natural habitat.

Q: Which protected species or animal products are the most traded in and out of Malaysia?

A: The three most traded are pangolin, wildboar and clouded monitor. Others include murai batu (white-rumped shama) and merbah telinga merah (red-whiskered bulbul) bird nests.

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Legalize breeding programmes in conjunction with specialised breeding conservatories and reserves of reasonable habitat size (few dozen to few hundred acres?) to house COLONIES of the animal, not a single specimen or even a breeding pair or family group. How would you live to be stuck in a cage with no companionship FOREVER? At least a community of same species and in a spacious/natural manner. When endangered animal numbers are stable with surplus, sale and culling can commence. Of course this is a temporary format before lab grown meat from the required species can replace the old method called farming. By then the reserve or conservatory would be able to distribute to other reserves and conservatories around the world.

Zoos are a failed paradigm as exhibits are definitely not large enough to comfortably house colonies of animals in as spacious and natural a habitat as possible. For example a pride of 30 Lions needs 100 sq miles to be comfortable, maybe 50 sq miles with ample prey provided by reserve owners. So think, how can a single Zoo claim to be humane when showing 100s of species in  110 acres (size of Zoo Negara) ? A series of reserves would be more realistic, with a multi storey paradigm necessary for increasingly land scarce Malaysia.

While at it, building architects should consider that 300 to 2000 sq ft are too small for most families who do suffer stress from cramped conditions. They cannot create sustainable societies on people crammed into pigeonholes or Terrace Houses or Duplexes (Semi-Ds) not much larger than Rabbit hutches.

QUOTE ‘ The dream of America is to live in a duplex and share a yard. Why would anyone want to threaten that great future? Answer me that and I’ll show you a green dog.’ UNQUOTE – Congressman Alex Shrub (GTA Wiki)