marahfreedom

Posts Tagged ‘1% tricks and traps’

2 Articles on Collusion and Profiteering off Taxpayer Monies between Councils and Crony Businesses – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree – 22nd February 2012

In 1% tricks and traps, Abuse of Power, Bad By-Laws, bad laws, collusion, criticism, Invasive Laws, spirit of the law, unprofessional behaviour, unreasonable fines on February 21, 2012 at 9:55 am

ARTICLE 1

Now the French say holidaymakers have to carry a breathalyser kit in their car – By John Stevens Last updated at 9:39 AM on 21st February 2012

Fine for drivers who fail to carry the £2 kit
Rules in France already force drivers to carry a warning triangle and a fluorescent safety vest
Critics brand latest measure a cash cow to make money out of foreign drivers

They have penalised British drivers for not carrying a warning triangle or a fluorescent safety vest.

Now French police have another weapon to wield against holidaymakers – a law insisting all motorists have a breathalyser kit in their cars.

The gadgets, designed so that drivers can test themselves to ensure they are under drink-drive limits, are the latest addition to a list of rules for driving on the other side of the Channel.

Bon voyage: Motorists travelling to France after July will be legally required to carry a breathalyser kit in the car

The measure, which will come into force in July, will apply to anyone travelling through France by car.

Critics however have cast doubt on the accuracy of the kits in being able to tell if a driver is over the limit. Others said it was simply another attempt to make money out of foreign drivers.

Motorists found with between 50mg and 80mg of alcohol in 100ml of blood can be fined 135 euros (£112) and lose six out of 12 points on their driving licence. Above that, a driver risks a fine of 4,500 euros (£3,744), losing their licence and being sent to prison for up to two years.

The French drink-driving limit of 50mg is much lower than in the UK where the limit is 80mg.
What you need to drive in France

Motorists are being urged to carry at least two of the single-use breathalysers so that if they have checked themselves with one they can still show police they have a ready-to-use kit if stopped.

Police, however, will use their own breathalysers to carry out any roadside test.

Those drivers caught without a kit will face a fine of 11 euros (£9) but the French have said there will be a period of grace till November before police start issuing the penalties.

The breathalyser kits cost between around £1 and £2 and will be available at ferry and tunnel terminals for crossings to France, but motoring groups have warned that many drivers will still forget to pack them in their car.

Andrew Howard, the AA’s head of road safety, explained that it takes time for alcohol to be absorbed into the blood, so early readings could be misleading.

He said: ‘After you have had your last swig of alcohol, your reading will continue to rise for the next 40 minutes because it takes time for alcohol to go down into your stomach and be taken into the bloodstream.’

He added: ‘Driving requirements in France are now quite complicated and the list of things you need to take is beginning to be quite a substantial extra charge to a holiday.’

Keith Peat of the Association of British Drivers said: ‘Some people will take the chance and not buy them, but many will simply not know about this latest requirement or just forget.

‘The whole idea of self-testing sounds like nonsense. It seems like another money spinner for the very profitable road safety industry.’

Police are expected to carry out random checks on drivers crossing into France via Calais to ensure that they understand the latest drink-driving rules.

Anyone driving in France is already required to carry a warning triangle and a fluorescent safety vest to use in an emergency.
The drink-drive limit in France is lower than it is in the UK

The drink-drive limit in France is lower than it is in the UK

Additionally British motorists must display a GB plate and have their headlights adjusted to the right.

But even if drivers have the full list of equipment they can still be caught out by the complexity of the rules.

If a motorist carries the luminous vest in their boot rather than the main section of the car they can still be fined.

Drivers are not obliged to carry a spare set of lights, but if one of their bulbs goes and they do not have a replacement ready they can be fined.

A fire extinguisher and first aid kit could also be required in the case of an emergency so not to fall foul of a law about assisting in the event of an accident.

Last month, the French introduced a new law banning satellite navigation systems that show the location of speed cameras.

Those caught can be fined 1,500 euros even if the device is not in use.

Here’s what other readers have said. Why not add your thoughts, or debate this issue live on our message boards.

The comments below have not been moderated.

As someone who has not consumed alcohol for the last 30 years, I hope the machines are accurate. I don’t mind carrying one but would be extremely worried if I tested positive!!!

– wrinkly reader, devon., 21/2/2012 09:34
Rating   1

Sail to Ostend/Zeebrugge instead. Avoid France. – Astounded, Cam’s happy land (Formerly Brown’s Looneybin), 21/2/2012 10:29 <<<< /// so you’re advising to change your travel route because of 2 pounds ! The mind boggles …

– to the point, northern Germany, 21/2/2012 09:33
Rating (0)

and we went to war because???

– luke, london, 21/2/2012 09:33
Rating (0)

If I had my way the kits would be fitted to all cars and you would not be able to start the engine until you had given a sample of breath.

– Chris, Newton le Willows, 21/2/2012 09:33
Rating   1

Yet another pointless piece of plastic junk and unnecessary expence. If you are stupid enough to drink drive, then this piece of junk isnt going to make you stop doing it. And if the French Police have to use their own calibrated equipment then what do any of us need one for? I wonder who manufactures/imports these gadgets? I bet someone in the French government has the exclusive importer contract and is rubbing their hands right now.

– Tammy, Lytham St Annes, 21/2/2012 09:32
Rating   2

They were quick enough to hand over bottles of wine to tommy when being liberated…..

– david, england, 21/2/2012 09:31
Rating   1

Sail to Ostend/Zeebrugge instead. Avoid France.

– Astounded, Cam’s happy land (Formerly Brown’s Looneybin), 21/2/2012 09:29
Rating (0)

Alan Hammond, Egham: “Going by the latest crash IN FRANCE I thInk THEY should PUT THEIR OWN HOUSE IN ORDER FIRST before telling other people what to do.– This is typical of THEM ALL mouth and trousers” – Eh? It was a British driver.

– David Bourke, Rochester, Kent, 21/2/2012 09:28
Rating   2

Good ideas – lets do it here.

– Mikey, Ipswich, UK, 21/2/2012 09:28
Rating (0)

David 08,31 I asked a driving instructor about use of roundabouts in Spain. They are taught to ALWAYS drive in the outside lane no matter which exit they intend to use. This often results in UK drivers having accidents and they are usually at fault. Forgot to say, the inside lane is for…… wait for it ….OVERTAKING !!

– james, puerto del rosario, canary islands, 21/2/2012 09:27

[[[ *** RESPONSE *** ]]]

Collusion between French government and the supplier of these items, which obviously has kickbacks somewhere down the line. There is NO SUCH REQUIREMENT in the UNHCR that allows ANY government to fine or chareg anyone for not carrying such a device on them. This ‘requirement’ is ILLEGAL, shows profiteering by collusion, and needs to be challenged by the French Bar Council and all officials involved scrutinized for potential involvement corrupt government purchases kickbacks culture.

ARTICLE 2

How long is (the paperwork for) a piece of string? Killjoy councils demand Jubilee parties have £5m in insurance liability and are on call 24/7… if they hang up bunting – by Andrew Levy – Last updated at 12:09 AM on 22nd February 2012

Councils across Britain force Jubilee party organisers into costly, expensive structural surveys
The bunting must have liability insurance of £5m – and in some cases, £10m
Some councils demand someone is on call 24/7 in case of problems
Organisers say they are ‘dragged through the mire’ and begin to lose the ‘spirit of the event’

For most people celebrating the Queen’s Silver Jubilee 35 years ago, there was only one rule – enjoy yourself.

Today, it’s a different story, according to a mayor planning a series of parties for this year’s Diamond Jubilee.

Robert Needham, who also organised events in 1977, has claimed that a ‘mire of health and safety’ has  prevented him from putting up bunting – that is, until he has completed a survey to ensure the flags are ‘structurally safe’.

However, he is not alone. Most councils demand that organisers – usually community-minded volunteers – take out liability insurance of £5m or even £10m and have someone on call 24 hours a day.
How long (is the paperwork) for a piece of string? The traditional bunting has become a nightmare for Jubilee organisers

How long (is the paperwork) for a piece of string? The traditional bunting has become a nightmare for organisers

Mr Needham, 70, mayor of Wivenhoe, Essex, said: ‘I remember organising a street party in 1977 and  back then you just got on and did it – there were no restrictions.

‘Then, by the time of the Golden Jubilee, I was involved with another street party and we had to get a street closure order, complete a risk assessment and get public liability insurance in place.

Care home orders grieving daughter to pay £3,000… because she didn’t give 28 days’ notice of her father’s DEATH
Boost for George Osborne as public sector borrowing surplus hits highest level in four years (but we’ve still got nearly £1TRILLION to pay off)
Can you see them? It’s the pancake race elf ‘n’ safety team

‘That was after 25 years of so-called progress, so I guess I should not be surprised at what we are faced with  for the Diamond Jubilee.

‘We just took it for granted that we would be okay putting up bunting and didn’t give it any thought.

‘It is extra work we can do without. There is a lot of jumping through hoops that we will have to do in order to get the event to go ahead.
A dark – and mundane – danger awaits: Wivenhoe is a picturesque town, and could look better with bunting, but only if the inherent danger can be overcome

A dark – and mundane – danger awaits: Wivenhoe is a picturesque town, and could look better with bunting, but only if the inherent danger can be overcome

‘Applying to put up cloth and  plastic bunting seems to me  something we can well do without.

‘It’s very disappointing and does rather dampen the spirit of  the event.’
Despite the deadly potential of Union flag bunting, it can sometimes be displayed, such as in Regent Street, London for Royal Wedding celebrations

Despite the deadly potential of Union flag bunting, it can sometimes be displayed, such as in Regent Street, London for Royal Wedding celebrations

Wivenhoe Town Council learned of the health and safety rules when it announced plans to hang the red, white and blue plastic flags along streets and in a playing field between May 26 and June 5.

However, killjoys from Essex County Council insisted assessments would have to be carried out first to make sure telegraph poles and fences were strong enough to support the weight of the paper-thin bunting.

Mr Needham said the celebrations would go ahead with or without the decorations.

A spokesman for Essex Council said that all district, borough, town and parish councils needed to apply for permission to put bunting or other decorations in public areas.

Officers will then assess if the locations are ‘structurally safe in terms of positioning and weight’.

Tracey Chapman, county councillor responsible for highways, said: ‘We are looking forward to supporting local events to celebrate the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee and would welcome decorations in the county to mark the occasion.

‘But the county council also has a duty to maintain public safety and must ensure decorations are health and safety compliant first.

‘The county council intends to make it as easy as possible for residents to celebrate this momentous event and will be issuing guidance to help answer some of the most commonly asked questions.’
PAPERWORK, INSURANCE, AND A 24/7 CONTACT

Dorset County Council:

‘…A number of conditions must be fulfilled and this includes a requirement for £5million public liability insurance, proof of which will be required with the application…’

Denbigshire County Council:

‘…Public liability insurance to the value of £5million is required. This can be covered by the contractor carrying out the work…’

Surrey County Council:

A request must be accompanied by the following essential information:

Proposed location of bunting
Date of installation and date of complete removal
Certified copy of current certificate of public liability insurance for £5 million
Description of type of bunting to be used
The contact details of the applicant, i.e. their fixed and mobile telephone numbers, e-mail address and postal address, so that they can be contacted 24 hours a day
Method statement for installation, maintenance and removal of bunting
Copy of written consent from the owner(s) of the fixing points to use them (where applicable)
Copy of the current structural adequacy certificate (obtained from owners of the fixing points)

One council that simplified the paperwork

Hampshire County Council:

While Hampshire is one of the councils that does require a £10million public liability insurance, they have also tried to simplify the party planning process:

A spokesman said: ‘Residents planning small scale street parties to celebrate the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee will be pleased to hear that Hampshire County Council has made arrangements to ensure they can do so with the minimum of fuss.

‘Provided the street is not a through road and no more than 500 people are attending, the County Council has agreed that the only permission it needs to be asked for is a licence to hang bunting from lamp posts.

‘This is so that there is a nominated organiser who can be relied on to organise the removal of the bunting after the event. People can apply online for a bunting licence to permit the hanging of bunting and flags on or over the highway.’

Leader of Hampshire County Council, Councillor Ken Thornber, commented: ‘We have built on the arrangements put in place for last year’s Royal Wedding.

‘I know that many people got into the celebratory spirit to hold street parties with neighbours, friends and relatives and we want to make sure they can do so all over again for the Diamond Jubilee with the minimum of bureaucracy.

‘Even more people may be spurred into organising a party in the street where they live if they know that they can do so without having to deal with a lot of ‘red tape’ and particularly as we are being given the gift of an extra bank holiday.’

 
[[[ *** RESPONSE *** ]]]

Profiteering collusion between insurance companies and the local council. Why do the English vote such people into power??? If the people say that this law is ILLEGAL (all likelihood it is by ethical considerations) then the law is illegal. Ask during Local Council Elections (in fact pose as salesmen for various rubbish/swag items) before you vote for your Councillor their views on such insurance purchases. If they all for this sort of CHEATING, then they AND their associates are unvotable. Certain types of insurances are reasonable provided there is no collusion of there are no casual or friendship contacts to prevent conflict of interest, but a 5 million insurance for bunting?!? Ethics alert! Fire the lot of profiteering parasites!

Advertisements

2 Articles on Nepotism in Malaysia, BN and Pakatan Rakyat – reposted and posted by @AgreeToDisagree – 18 February 2012

In Malaysia, Nepotism, oligarch, oligarchy, political correctness, politics, preventing vested interest, separation of powers on February 18, 2012 at 4:25 pm

ARTICLE 1

Rule of the elite vs rule of the majority: Can Mukhriz “my father’s son” tell the difference – Saturday, 18 February 2012 14:28 – written by  Maclean Patrick, Wong Choon Mei, Malaysia Chronicle

Rule of the elite vs rule of the majority: Can Mukhriz “my father’s son” tell the difference

There is no such thing as an ideal democracy, although many – even Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak – aspires for a “world-class democracy”. Firstly, there is certainly debate as to whose benchmark should one follow.

The American model is normally seen as a template for what a modern democracy should be like, yet it does not take into account allocations for monarchies that reside within the said state. The British model for government is the one Malaysia takes after, where the Monarchy plays a rather ceremonious role, rather than governmental.

Essence of democracy

The fundamentals of democracy manifest themselves in the process thatsignifies it. Democracy is generally defined as a form of government in which all adult citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law.

Aristotle’s comment on Democracy is telling: “Now a fundamental principle of the democratic form of constitution is liberty—that is what is usually asserted, implying that only under this constitution do men participate in liberty, for they assert this as the aim of every democracy. But one factor of liberty is to govern and be governed in turn; for the popular principle of justice is to have equality according to number, not worth, and if this is the principle of justice prevailing, the multitude must of necessity be sovereign and the decision of the majority must be final and must constitute justice, for they say that each of the citizens ought to have an equal share; so that it results that in democracies the poor are more powerful than the rich, because there are more of them and whatever is decided by the majority is sovereign. This then is one mark of liberty which all democrats set down as a principle of the constitution. And one is for a man to live as he likes; for they say that this is the function of liberty, inasmuch as to live not as one likes is the life of a man that is a slave. This is the second principle of democracy, and from it has come the claim not to be governed, preferably not by anybody, or failing that, to govern and be governed in turns; and this is the way in which the second principle contributes to egalitarian liberty.”

Rule of the elite when it should be rule of the majority

If rule of majority is in place, as often mentioned by those in Barisan Nasional, then the poor in Malaysia will have a bigger say than those who are rich. Thus, it is right that the government looks into the welfare of the poor and to explain to the poor the abuse of public funds that is so rampant in Malaysia.

But this is not the case in reality. And will never be the case as long as UMNO pulls the strings in BN. The reason is because UMNO practices an oligarchy form of government which is nothing near democracy.

This is evident in the statement by deputy Trade minister Mukhriz Mahathir, the son of Mahathir Mohamad, who recently asserted that all UMNO members should be made to sign a letter swearing that they will remain loyal to the party and work hard to ensure its candidates win in the next general election.

Mukhriz, also the Kedah UMNO deputy liaision committee chairman, said he was proposing the idea following the loyalty oath by delegates at Umno’s annual assembly.

“Making the oath verbally is not enough. We need to put it on paper so that it will be legally binding. Action can be taken against them if they break the oath. “The letter will ensure that there’s no backstabbing or sabotage of party candidates,” Mukhriz had expounded to the press.

You just can’t force people

Now, forcing party members to do something to ensure political survival is oligarchy. Oligarchy is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with an elite class distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, commercial, and/or military legitimacy. Throughout history, most oligarchies have been tyrannical, relying on public servitude to exist.

Having a party member sign a legally binding document contravenes the right of the individual to choose based on their conscience the political party that best serves their interests.

The assertion that having party members be legally wrong for acting against the wises of the party is absurd and goes against the very idea of democracy and the Federal Constitution of Malaysia . Under Article 5 (1), it is stated  ‘No person shall be deprived of his life or personal liberty save in accordance with law’.

My father’s son

What wrong has an UMNO member done if he or she feels that they should not support the stand of the party? By allowing room for a different point of view, yes – even dissension, it is not like giving members room to leave, revolt or act against party. UMNO leaders should have more confidence in their members.

This is something that Mukhriz has failed to understand. The youngest son of former UMNO strongman Mahathir Mohamad, who was regarded as despot by many quarters for his ham fisted rule, Mukhriz said in a recent and rare interview that he was not bothered about being compared to his much reviled dad. Instead, he considered it an honour to be “my father’s son”.

“I am proud of my fathers’ achievements. It’s not for me to deny all that he has done. And I won’t say that I want to get out of my father’s shadow. After all, my name carries the bin (son of) Mahathir…this I cannot change. I’m not bothered if people want to link me with him. It’s a positive link. But if people want to compare me with him, it’s a long shot. I’m still very new compared to my father,” Mukhriz told Bernama.

Following blindly, failing to understand the basics

Now while filial love is to be respected, admired even, to follow blindly is not. At 46, Mukhriz should be young enough to be cognizant of how the world is developing. If he were to deny the growth of Gen Y, and their progressive values, then he is just politicizing in the same mold as his dad.

Whether that means Mukhriz will become a successful and inspiring leader or a feared and corrupt despot is something for his countrymen to decide, but from his recent comments, one has certainly obtained a glimpse of which side he will likely end up on.

One of the most fundamental base of democracy is the liberty of the person, yet this is not what is being practiced within UMNO nor within the governmental structure of Malaysia. It is time that citizens of Malaysia turn the existing and decadent system upside down and practice true democracy – one great factor of liberty is to govern and be governed in turn.

Mahathir never understood it. Neither did UMNO and it looks like Mukhriz won’t either.

Malaysia Chronicle

ARTICLE 2

Rule of the elite vs rule of the majority: Can Lim Guan Eng “my father’s son” tell the difference – Saturday, 18 February 2012 14:28 – edited by @AgreeToDisagree, Malaysian Democracy site

There is no such thing as an ideal democracy, although many – even Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak – aspires for a “world-class democracy”. Firstly, there is certainly debate as to whose benchmark should one follow.

The American model is normally seen as a template for what a modern democracy should be like, yet it does not take into account allocations for monarchies that reside within the said state. The British model for government is the one Malaysia takes after, where the Monarchy plays a rather ceremonious role, rather than governmental.

Essence of democracy

The fundamentals of democracy manifest themselves in the process thatsignifies it. Democracy is generally defined as a form of government in which all adult citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law.

Aristotle’s comment on Democracy is telling: “Now a fundamental principle of the democratic form of constitution is liberty—that is what is usually asserted, implying that only under this constitution do men participate in liberty, for they assert this as the aim of every democracy. But one factor of liberty is to govern and be governed in turn; for the popular principle of justice is to have equality according to number, not worth, and if this is the principle of justice prevailing, the multitude must of necessity be sovereign and the decision of the majority must be final and must constitute justice, for they say that each of the citizens ought to have an equal share; so that it results that in democracies the poor are more powerful than the rich, because there are more of them and whatever is decided by the majority is sovereign. This then is one mark of liberty which all democrats set down as a principle of the constitution. And one is for a man to live as he likes; for they say that this is the function of liberty, inasmuch as to live not as one likes is the life of a man that is a slave. This is the second principle of democracy, and from it has come the claim not to be governed, preferably not by anybody, or failing that, to govern and be governed in turns; and this is the way in which the second principle contributes to egalitarian liberty.”

Rule of the elite when it should be rule of the majority

If rule of majority is in place, as often mentioned by those in Barisan Nasional, then the poor in Malaysia will have a bigger say than those who are rich. Thus, it is right that the government looks into the welfare of the poor and to explain to the poor the abuse of public funds that is so rampant in Malaysia.

But this is not the case in reality. And will never be the case as long as DAP pulls the strings in BN. The reason is because DAP practices an oligarchy form of government which is nothing near democracy.

This is evident in the statement by DAP Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng Lim Kit Siang, the son of term limitless Lim Kit Siang, who recently asserted that all DAP members should be made to sign a letter (in the fashion to destroy democracy within the DAP party) swearing that they will remain loyal to the party (in which the central committe is almost entirely held by Lim family clan members) and work hard to ensure its candidates win in the next general election.

Lim Guan Eng, also the Penang Chief Minister (installed as CM by Lim Kit Siang against DAP Penang members resulting in a spate of sackings and quitting members), said he was proposing the idea following the loyalty oath by delegates at DAP’s annual assembly.

“Making the oath verbally is not enough. We need to put it on paper so that it will be legally binding. Action can be taken against them if they break the oath. “The letter will ensure that there’s no backstabbing or sabotage of party candidates,” Lim Guan Eng had expounded to the press. This is ridiculous and UNCONSTITUIONAL, prejudicial to democratic principles and IDIOTIC to suggest at all, but hey when you deal with a 3rd world outfit like DAP, expect the worst.

You just can’t force people

Now, forcing party members to do something to ensure political survival is oligarchy. Oligarchy is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with an elite class distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, commercial, and/or military legitimacy. Throughout history, most oligarchies have been tyrannical, relying on public servitude to exist.

Having a party member sign a legally binding document contravenes the right of the individual to choose based on their conscience the political party that best serves their interests.

The assertion that having party members be legally wrong for acting against the wises of the party is absurd and goes against the very idea of democracy and the Federal Constitution of Malaysia . Under Article 5 (1), it is stated  ‘No person shall be deprived of his life or personal liberty save in accordance with law’.

My father’s son

What wrong has an DAP member done if he or she feels that they should not support the stand of the party? By allowing room for a different point of view, yes – even dissension, it is not like giving members room to leave, revolt or act against party. DAP leaders should have more confidence in their members.

This is something that Lim Guan Eng has failed to understand. The youngest son of former DAP strongman Lim Kit Siang, who was regarded as despot by many quarters for his ham fisted rule, Lim Guan Eng said in a recent and rare interview that he was not bothered about being compared to his much reviled dad. Instead, he considered it an honour to be “my father’s son”.

“I am proud of my fathers’ achievements. It’s not for me to deny all that he has done. And I won’t say that I want to get out of my father’s shadow. After all, my name carries the Lim  surname … this I cannot change. I’m not bothered if people want to link me with him. It’s a positive link. But if people want to compare me with him, it’s a long shot. I’m still very new compared to my father,” Lim Guan Eng told the media.

Following blindly, failing to understand the basics

Now while filial love is to be respected, admired even, to follow blindly is not. At 50, Lim Guan Eng should be young enough to be cognizant of how the world is developing. If he were to deny the growth of Gen Y, and their progressive values, then he is just politicizing in the same mold as his dad Lim Kit Siang.

Whether that means Lim Guan Eng will become a successful and inspiring leader or a hated (not particularly fearful, just the way the racists want – where are those 7 foot tall rippling muscled leaders with lantern jaws – LGE doesn’t inspire anything but general red-tapeness . . . ) and corrupt despot is something for his countrymen to decide, but from his recent comments, one has certainly obtained a glimpse of which side he will likely end up on.

One of the most fundamental base of democracy is the liberty of the person, yet this is not what is being practiced within DAP nor within the governmental structure of Malaysia. It is time that citizens of Malaysia turn the existing and decadent system upside down and practice true democracy – one great factor of liberty is to govern and be governed in turn.

Lim Kit Siang never understood it. Neither did DAP and it looks like Lim Guan Eng won’t either.

Malaysian Democracy

[[[ *** RESPONSE *** ]]]

Not a word yet on one-man one vote Steven?

If there were one-man one-vote elections (one-man one-vote is NOT representative democracy of the ELITE Dewanites, but TRUE democracy of the 99%) I bet that BOTH Lim Guan Eng and Guan ENg’s father Lim Kit Siang wouldn’t even make it into the central committee much less get the Penang CM’s post. Even in the lies about the EXCO Local Elections were too obvious. Try the below link on a massive failure to properly use the people’s mandate :

DAP’s democracy in Penang. – Tuesday, November 16, 2010
http://apanama2020.blogspot.com/2010/11/daps-democracy-in-penang.html

Bribery though with taxpayer funds given to supposedly poor and old, DAP can do. We did not vote DAP for bribes, we voted them to ensure that EXCO elections quorums were met and sufficient time was given for the Rakyat to vote by. Instead we got a false election and now taxpayers are paying for 0.002% quorum sanctioned DAP quangocrats and cronies the taxpayer did not vote for. DAP is a potential trouble maker much like UMNO, voet for 3rd Force instead wherever DAP nepotists stand . . .