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20 Malaysian Articles : Age Catching Up With Objectivity?, Countering Media Spin, High Density Projects May Cancel Spirituality of Batu Caves, 1 Democratic Action vs So Many Undemocratic Ones, More Insults Against th Orang Asli, Orwellian Malaysian Housing Laws Attack Democracy, Kratom – Malaysia’s Coca Under Attack, One Seat Suggestion Is Not Denocracy, More Investment Elsewhere While Uninvestible Malaysia’s Entertainment-Gaming Languishes, A Skewed Racism Debate Article, Malaysian Cults, Anwarista Propaganda Chittera-ra, Kong Cho Ha Takes On Lim Kit Siang, RPK’s NLPs, DAP Hijacked The Political Mandate to Run Penang As Their Family Business, Failure in Gaming Industry In Malaysia, Nurul’s Lip Service, RPK’s Lumping of Disparate Groups of Chinese into a Single Hateful Ethnic Group – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree posted on 30th October 2012

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ARTICLE 1

Can Asia beat corruption? – by Tunku Abdul Aziz – 27 October 2012 | last updated at 10:30PM

SUPPORTING INSTITUTIONS: Countries like Malaysia are wrestling with graft on the national level, but have a better chance of reducing it substantially sooner

A bumper sticker on a taxi in Kuala Lumpur sends an anti-corruption message. The prime minister’s initiatives are a brave new approach to transparent and accountable governance.

Tunku Abdul Aziz on Oct 2,

I was invited to participate in a televised debate on corruption, organised by Channel News Asia as part of its Bridging Asia: The Singapore Debates. The motion before the house was “Can Asia Beat Corruption?”

Professor Mark Thompson, director, Southeast Asian Research Centre at the City University, Hong Kong, teamed up with prominent Singapore anti-corruption lawyer Wilson Ang to try and convince a critical studio audience that Asia could lick corruption, citing cases of countries once at the bottom of the Transparency International Perceptions Index and today showing signs of improvement.

They drew comfort from, and put great store by, the fact that nearly all Asian countries had introduced anti-corruption laws. But they forgot to mention that a million anti-corruption laws would amount to nothing without strong, effective enforcement.

In those countries, and to some extent in Malaysia, enforcement continued to be derisory. Laws are of course required for defining public service behaviour: they are essential for creating institutions, but of themselves, “as a deterrent to unethical public behaviour”, are largely ineffective.

Ann Florini, professor of Public Policy, School of Social Sciences, Singapore Management University and I were not persuaded that Asia could confront corruption decisively because, unlike Singapore or Hong Kong, there was no evidence of strong political will emerging any time soon in much of Asia.

Good governance was totally absent in seriously corrupt societies where best practices were more observed in the breach than the observance. In such countries, corruption would continue to run its course with little or no prospect of even reducing it marginally.

I said that in the case of Singapore, which was once a very corrupt colonial backwater, if at the time of independence the city state was run by a bunch of crooks instead of Lee Kuan Yew, the course of its history might have been quite different.

Countries in Asia that managed their affairs well and supported their institutions, the likes of Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Malaysia, while still wrestling with corruption at the national level, apparently had a better chance of reducing corruption substantially over a shorter time frame.

Ann Florini and I won the debate against worthy opponents. The verdict was that as long as Asia continued to pay lip service to fighting corruption in their societies, it would invariably be regarded as a profitable, low-risk enterprise. Corruption would be in robust good health.

Electronic voting was employed by those in the studio as well as those watching at home. I must say they do these things extremely well in Singapore, as indeed we have come to expect. I believe it is the institutions in which they worked that made the difference. Strong institutions produce highly motivated and competent people.

I remain unabashed and unrepentant in my complete support of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s national transformation programmes as I see in his initiatives a brave new approach to transparent and accountable governance for Malaysia, and not a day too soon.

Over the years, we have, largely by default, allowed unprincipled governance to take on a life of its own, with predictable consequences. These comprehensive transformation programmes, covering a whole range of critical social, economic, legislative and governance issues, once implemented, will help ensure for Malaysia a place of honour at the top table, among the “clean” nations of the world. I am confident that as a result of these measures, we would be better armed and equipped to tackle the scourge of corruption head on.

I am happy that the Najib administration has shown great moral strength to resist the temptation of turning the national transformation programmes into a political slogan: they are far too important for the long-term future of our nation to be trivialised and used as a political play thing.

They are not about scoring a political point. They are about getting the country out of its slumber, out of the rut and bouncing back with clear and transparent policies that will grow the economy, unite our people and ensure peace and harmony for all Malaysians.

The government should not be distracted by the mountains of lies and innuendoes spun without a break by the opposition “axis of evil”, with apologies to the junior Bush. Najib must do whatever it takes legally to win big and win well to save the country from the clutches of unprincipled political adventurers, who, lacking experience, would be too risky a gamble to be allowed to govern this country.

Let me remind the Anwars and Guan Engs of this world that it is easier to destroy than to build. On that note, I wish my Muslim readers a blessed Aidiladha.

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Well at least there is a critical view (3rd force inclined hopefully?) on the so-called Opposition in Malaysia. But for this part . . . I said that in the case of Singapore, which was once a very corrupt colonial backwater, if at the time of independence the city state was run by a bunch of crooks instead of Lee Kuan Yew, the course of its history might have been quite different . . . is quite nonsensical and propaganda inclined. Lee Kuan Yew has written MANY crook like laws into the Singaporean system.

Extreme salaries worldwide second only to corruption ridden Kenya says alot about Singapore. There is no justification of such extreme salaries, that and many other things often covered up that make Singapore a very corrupt NEO-COLONIAL ‘military base’, that has ** INSTITUTIONALIZED CORRUPTION written into law**.

I think Tunku should hand over his (non-existent) degree in politics to moi (also non-existent degree), simply for not being honestly academic as an academic should be, in a preferably academic article, or simply because Tunku can’t think straight being so afflicted or colluding on the Lee Junta ethos. Honesty please dear Tunku! Friendship does not mean 99.999% of the citizens should suffer so 2 people feel good about themselves! Not at our expense!

Strategic location makes Singapore a military base that foreign powers pretend to pour money into for a sense of normalcy. Apart from unique culture and unique goods local to the region, there is no reason to travel or even trade at all. Port of call issues are no longer viable either due to long range ships etc.. This is one occasion where otherwise useful associations and the myopia of life long friendships end up hampering the truth of the matter. See below link for some unpleasant Singaporean reality that a Beloved Leader junta of a nepotistic and term limitless political careerist family or a privileged member of Royalty can never relate to.

ARTICLE 2

Singapore experiencing a golden age? Let’s not kid ourselves — Romesh Navaratnarajah – October 27, 2012

OCT 27 — Is Singapore really experiencing its golden age, or are we missing a part of the plot?

In a recent commentary, Straits Times Editor Sumiko Tan described what she called ‘Singapore’s Golden Age’, with references to Singapore’s impressive skyline, boasting an array of new developments like Marina Bay Sands, Gardens by the Bay and the Singapore Flyer, just to name a few.

Citing statistics and surveys, Tan implied that the city-state must be doing something right and is attracting many foreigners to come and work here.

She further stated: “Property is a national preoccupation, but it’s not whether you can afford a roof over your head that Singaporeans fret about. It’s whether or not to get a second property to invest in.”

Sorry Sumiko, but I beg to differ as there are undoubtedly a growing number of Singaporeans who are struggling to buy a decent home for themselves or for their families, let alone purchase a second property.

There was even a recent article which first appeared in The New Paper highlighting how cash-over-valuations (COVs) for resale HDB flats are high, making it more difficult for buyers to acquire units. The report quoted B. Wong, an operations manager, who said that he and his wife would not have been able to pay the S$60,000 (RM150,000) COV for their 11th-storey four-room flat in Punggol had they not sold their previous unit.

Moreover, property prices rose to record levels last quarter amid low interest rates, prompting the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) to implement new home loan regulations to prevent a property price bubble.

Private home prices rose 0.5 per cent to a new high in Q3 this year. As for the public housing market, Singapore recently saw its first S$1 million HDB resale flat transaction.

So it is unlikely that the majority of Singaporeans are indeed preoccupied with acquiring more investment properties, especially with the many netizens regularly grumbling about sky-high housing prices.

I don’t argue with the fact that Singapore has seen astounding progress over the last few decades, but it might be time to also accept that not all that glitters is gold. — TR Emeritus

* Romesh Navaratnarajah is the Senior Editor at PropertyGuru.

* This is the personal opinion of the writer or publication and does not necessarily represent the views of The Malaysian Insider.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/article/singapore-experiencing-a-golden-age-lets-not-kid-ourselves-romesh-navaratnarajah/

ARTICLE 3

300 stage peaceful protest against condo project in Batu Caves – Friday, October 26, 2012 – 19:27

ABOUT 300 people staged a peaceful protest in front of the Sri Subramaniar Swamy Temple here today against the proposed construction of two blocks of 29-storey condominiums close to the Batu Caves limestone outcrop near here.

They gathered at about 10 am, carrying placards with slogans, one of which called read: “Stop the construction and save the Batu Caves natural heritage and the world-renowned religious shrine”.

Sri Maha Mariamman Temple Dhevasthanam chairman Datuk R. Nadarajah said the development of the two blocks of 29-storey condominiums would also lead to the destruction of the world’s tallest Lord Murugan statue situated less than 300 metres from the proposed development.

“The construction would endanger the lives of the devotees and tourists from around the world due to the (possibility of) falling objects as a result of the massive development in the vicinity of the temple,” he told a news conference, here.

“The project must be stopped permanently, not temporarily, and we urge the (Selangor) government to consider our plight,” he said.

Former MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said the high-rise construction should be stopped because it could have great adverse impact on the eco-system of the limestone hills there.

“We are not asking for money or land, we are asking to stop the construction permanently because it will also affect many species of animals and plants,” said Samy Vellu, who is Malaysia’s Special Envoy for Infrastructure to India and South Asia.

Malaysian Nature Society secretary Lim Teck Wyn claimed that it was unsafe to locate the proposed development close to Batu Caves.

He recalled an incident of Oct 19, 1973, when a massive piece of rock sheared off the cliff face of Gunung Cheroh in Ipoh and landed on the village of Kampung Kacang Putih, killing 42 people.

Following that tragedy, the Minerals and Geoscience Department (MGD) came up with guidelines for development next to limestone hills.

The Batu Caves cliff face next to the proposed blocks of condominiums has discontinuities and overhangs, which means that the MGD criteria for a very high hazard rating is met.

“The zone surrounding the base of the hill is thus considered to be a very dangerous zone where there should be no houses or permanent buildings,” said Lim. – Bernama

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Hi density areas weaken spiritual energy due to lots of living beings taking the areas Qi or Prana. Also tall buildings block line of sight as well as cause further blockage spiritual energy of having people in the way.

ARTICLE 4

Soi Lek disagrees with Umno ally over hudud – by Ida Lim – October 28, 2012

KUALAL LUMPUR,  Oct 28 — Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek has openly disagreed with his Umno colleague in the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) that introducing hudud, the strict Islamic penal code, here will not impact non-Muslims, adding to the protracted debate over religious rights in multicultural Malaysia.

“Maybe he did not do his homework. I am disappointed with what he said,” the MCA president was reported as saying today by English-language paper The Sunday Star.

Dr Chua was referring to Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom, who had earlier this week said hudud could only apply to Muslims as they come under the jurisdiction of the Syariah courts.

Dr Chua said he was disappointed with Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom’s statement. — File pic
“Therefore, hudud law will not impact non-Muslims,” Jamil Khir, the minister for Islamic affairs, told Parliament in a written reply.

He had based his reply on the Federal Constitution, where Islamic law falls under the jurisdiction of each state and is only applicable to Muslims.

“Therefore, if hudud is to be implemented in Malaysia, then the Syariah Court would only have jurisdiction over those who practise Islam in accordance with the Federal Constitution,” Jamil Khir had said.

Malaysia’s dual-track court system has resulted in an blurring of lines in an increasing number of legal disputes between Muslims and non-Muslims over their constitutional rights.

Dr Chua had last week said many Chinese voters are “also aware that the DAP has been lying when it said that hudud will not affect the non-Muslims”.

MCA has been using the hudud issue to warn non-Muslims, especially the Chinese community, away from voting for Pakatan Rakyat (PR) in the coming polls, insisting that the pact’s “dominant” partner PAS would insist on its implementation despite its ties with secular DAP and PKR.

Hudud has remained a sensitive touch point in Southeast Asia’s third-largest economy, which has a 60 per cent Muslim population, with political parties continuing to spar over the subject in the run-up to the 13th general election.

The idea of an Islamic criminal code has been used to either scare the minority Chinese voters, or shore up support among the majority Malay-Muslim community.

The Malay community is seen today as split three-ways among the ruling BN’s mainstay and the country’s biggest Malay party, Umno, the opposition’s Islamist PAS, and PKR, which is seen as an urban liberal party.

MCA had also previously warned that Muslim MPs would unite to amend the Federal Constitution in favour of hudud and the Islamic state if PR takes over, but DAP’s Lim Kit Siang had dismissed it as a “lie” to stop the Chinese community from voting for the opposition.

Lim had said that there were only 130 Muslim MPs in the country, while 148 MPs are needed to make up the two-thirds majority for a constitutional amendment.

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PAS would not be the dominant member IF all more than 2 term candidates are dropped, and all more than 2 term candidates vacate their posts and all phenotypically similar sycophants would-be and ‘Phenotypical Nepotists’ as well. Thats about 50% of the Pakatan Coalition required to drop out of the race.

To ensure seperation of powers and distribution of power, to prevent vested interest, an MP must not also be on the committee, or Supreme Council (that should be ex-MPs instead), on top of disallowing family blocs in the MP posts or within the committee or Supreme council. That way cults of personality Gaddafi or Mubarak or Ali Salleh style do not form, that end up biasing the political parties intentions, and affecting the nation’s policies. Consider that after various junior posts in the committee, a member would have spent possibly 5-10 years.

Then a 2 term MP or Assemblyman stint possibly 8 years, then finally a Supreme Council post for 2 terms another 8 years. Thats also a grand total of 26 years which is more than enough for any person. So think when a MP post could have seen 8 MPs over the same period of time, how inappropriate that only 1 member among a political party of MILLIONS got to be MP. How is that fair? This is how dictatorship is like in many 3rd world countries, and if the trend is uncontrolled, we end up with an Egypt, a Libya and a Tunisia in the end where revolution is needed to overthrow power mad people in power too long.

The current or would be politician’s intent to the people can be seen in how long they have been in power (long in power but unable to think cleverly enough to destroy racism or fundamentalism or encourage corruption seems to typify most Malaysian politicians btw), or how they consider the above facts and best practices for political parties, so voters take a closer look at the party of your choice and if all intents of candidates or incumbents are bad, run for candidacy yourselves instead! It’s your country too, and that MP’s seat is for EVERYONE, not just those who refuse to amend laws and demand special funeral funds at tax payer cost and enable Astro type monopolies, no-insurance opt outs, extreme fines for minor offences and corrupt and opaque procurement contracts!

Vote 3rd Force and drop all term limitless nepotists and crony capitalist/fundo colluders like DAP or racists like BN!

Proposed 3rd Force Coalition

ARTICLE 5

GE-13: Manifestos to decide BATTLE OF THE TITANS – Sunday, 28 October 2012 10:14

KUALA LUMPUR, — Manifestos are part and parcel of any general election. They also play a vital role in determining the success or defeat of an electoral candidate or a political party.

The word ‘manifesto’ is being bandied about increasingly in the media and in conversations among the people in the run-up to the 13th General Election, particularly with regard to promises made by political parties prior to the last general election and as to whether they have been delivered or not.

So, what is a manifesto, actually? The Oxford Dictionary defines it as “a public declaration of policy and aims, especially one issued before an election by a political party or candidate”.

Che Hamdan Che Mohd Razali, political science lecturer at Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) in Dungun, Terengganu, is of the opinion that a good manifesto is one that can inspire the desire among voters to choose a political party or candidate to represent them.

“Of course, the candidate plays an important role but the voters also want to know what is the manifesto or declaration being offered by the party,” he told Bernama.

And to what extent do all voters remember the declarations or promises made prior to a general election?

In a 2009 study of a group of people aged between 21 and 40, it was found that most respondents had forgotten what was offered to them during the 2008 general election campaign, said Che Hamdan.

“At that time (the general election campaign), voters were excited by what was offered in the manifestos of political parties. But after some time, they forgot the points and only recalled them after certain related issues were raised nearer the general election date,” he said.

Deciding factor

Speaking of the next general election, Che Hamdan, who is also a political analyst, said that apart from the contesting candidates, the offer of an attractive manifesto would be among the deciding factors to determine the success or defeat of a party.

“Informing people of what has been implemented is actually very effective. They’ll then know what has and has not been done.

“I feel that the Barisan Nasional (BN) should increase the dissemination of information on what it has implemented,” he said referring to the “Jelajah Janji Ditepati” (‘Promises Fulfilled’ Tour) which provided a platform for people to obtain the latest update on the government’s efforts to help them.

Lecturer Prof Dr Ahmad Atory Hussein of the Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM) Social Science Studies Centre, said a manifesto means a declaration or promise which must be presented at any general election.

“Based on political science, there are several elements in a general election, such as campaigns and manifestos. And a manifesto is the main element in any general election,” he said.

The manifesto has a very strong influence in determining the continuity of a party or individual, he added.

A manifesto which fulfills the needs of the people in a particular locality would generally influence the voting pattern,’ he said.

“For example, at the 2008 general election, the opposition had a manifesto which attracted the attention of the people and this allowed them to win in several states,” he said.

However, many of their promises remain unfulfilled, to the point that people were willing to take them to court, he said.

The Parti Keadilan Rakyat-led Selangor government was now facing several legal suits brought by consumers over the water subsidy which was promised in the party’s 12th general election manifesto, he said.

Ahmad Atory said voters would also evaluate the ability of a representative to deliver on promises, through the manifesto.

— BERNAMA

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So, what is a manifesto, actually? The Oxford Dictionary defines it as “a public declaration of policy and aims, especially one issued before an election by a political party or candidate”. 90% failed manifesto by DAP renders DAP unvotable, being voted in on a failed manifesto of unkept words, cheating the voters. Vote 3rd Force!

ARTICLE 6

Karpal: Put party before self – by SIRA HABIBU – Monday October 29, 2012 sira@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: DAP chairman Karpal Singh has hit back at his fellow leaders who thought his “one candidate, one seat” proposal should be an internal party matter.

On the contrary, he said DAP could not risk the rakyat having leaders playing multiple roles as assemblyman, MP and executive councillors.

“We must put the interest of the country and the party before self,” Karpal said.

In the 1970s, Karpal said DAP leaders had to contest multiple seats because it did not have enough candidates of calibre.

“In the 1990s, party strongmen had to contest tough seats and give up safe seats for new or weaker candidates as our strategy was to win as many seats as possible to wrest control of Penang,” he pointed out.

“Now, we must accommodate quite a number of professionals who have joined Pakatan Rakyat,” he said, adding that DAP should also be sensitive to the people’s views on the multiple seats issue.

Karpal was responding to talk that some leaders were against the “one candidate, one seat” policy as they would lose the multiple incomes that could exceed RM40,000 a month.

In Selangor, an assemblyman’s pay is about RM11,700, inclusive of allowances, while that of an executive councillor is about RM25,000 (inclusive of state assembly pay). An MP earns about RM15,000 a month.

National organising secretary Teresa Kok, who is an MP, assemblyman and an executive councillor in Selangor, had described Karpal’s call as an “old story”.

Kok said that the party’s central executive committee had already discussed the issue and that the final decision depended on each and every constituency and state.

Selangor Speaker Datuk Teng Chang Khim had said that it was not wise to air the matter via the media as “it would create unnecessary dispute and problem”.

On Friday, Karpal had urged DAP leaders holding both parliamentary and state seats to publicly express their willingness to give up one.

Besides exceptional figures in Penang and Sarawak, all others should be willing to vie for only a single constituency, he said.

“We secured great victory in the last general election because of political tsunami but we do not expect such tsunami in the coming polls. It’s going to be tough as the public will assess the candidates based on their abilities,” he said, adding that the party should change its strategy accordingly.

Karpal also stressed that his intention was sincere, adding that there was no “sinister motive” and that even party grassroots supported the “single seat” policy.

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Few people even decades into any industry earn as much. These salaries are more than 10 times average annual wage and excessive by normal standards. Then consider the term limitless and nepotism issue. Does the Rayat want to support these people for unlimited terms? 2 terms at most then vote for someone else but not that person’s relatives! Term limitless and nepotistic political careerists begats Minister Mentors and Senior Ministers, that turn into Gaddafis, Mubaraks and Ali Sallehs.

At 23K a month (or 4 million in Singapore’s case), MPs won’t need to work anymore after 2 terms or even 1 term if thrifty, so please voters, do give another one of your fellow constituents a chance to enjoy a salary windfall and allow seperation of powers as well – if the salaries are lowered to national annual wage levels, then fully expect only the wealthier and not greedy political careerists to join up in politics. In either case TERM LIMITS ensures distribution of political power to ALL constituents, not just Supremo and nepotistic family members or cliques which is what DAP has sunk to now – another PAP, and likely indulging in NEUROTECH techno-fascism that can be used to ensure people have no inclination to challenge bad laws that they do not want to change or even bad laws being introduced all the time)

ARTICLE 7

Masing’s swipe at Taib? – SPECIAL REPORTS – Monday, 29 October 2012 Super Admin

Parti Rakyat Sarawak has declared itself the “true custodian” of Dayaks in Sarawak, putting a spoke perhaps in Taib’s divide and rule strategy.

Parliamentary election’s is not Taib’s top priority, but state is. Rumours are rife that he’s had a finger in the chaos within SUPP, SPDP and PRS. A divided state coalition allows him to have better control of his ‘partners’ and an increasingly empowered native community courtesy of the opposition.

Free Malaysia Today

SIBU: Was Parti Rakyat Sarawak (PRS) president James Masing sending out a message to Chief Minister Taib Mahmud with his speech during the party’s eight anniversary dinner here last Saturday?

Masing’s emphasis on PRS being a “truly Dayak party” and that its elected representatives were “all Dayaks” wasn’t just a frivolous statement. It was tactical.

It comes at a time of the rapid ‘Dayak awakening’ amongst the rural native communities courtesy of the alternative media, Radio Free Sarawak and a brazen opposition.

Fueling this ‘awakening’ is the floundering Barisan Nasional partners – Sarawak Progressive Democratic Party (SPDP) and Sarawak United Peoples party (SUPP) – who can’t seem to get their act together.

The only ‘water-tight’ party appears to be PRS and Taib’s PBB which incidentally is facing simmering discontent within its Bumiputera wing led by the allegedly much spineless Alfred Jabu Numpang.

The next parliamentary election which must be held by April 2013 will be a challenging one for Sarawak BN’s component parties.

Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak is desperately in need of Sarawak’s 31 seats in view of the fluid political situation in Sabah and in the peninsular.

In the last parliamentary elections in 2008, it was Sabah and Sarawak’s collective 56 seats that helped BN retain Putrajaya. Sabah and Sarawak each lost one seat to the opposition, delivering 54 seats to the federal coalition.

But the current scenario is somewhat different. The latest spin from the ground in Sabah is that the Musa Aman-led BN could lose up to 10 if not 12 of the 25 contestable parliamentary seats.

In Sarawak the seat sharing ratio stands at PPB (14), SUPP (seven) PRS (six) SPDP (4)

As it stands, speculations are rife that BN could lose up to seven seats from amongst SUPP, SPDP and PRS.

Taib, on his part, has guaranteed Najib a return on all 14 of PBB’s parliamentary seats and there’s no reason for the PM to doubt his ability especially after his performance in the last state election. Taib is not too concerned about parliament.

PRS truly represents Dayaks

Parliamentary election’s is not Taib’s top priority, but state is. Rumours are rife that he’s had a finger in the chaos within SUPP, SPDP and PRS. A divided state coalition allows him to have better control of his ‘partners’ and an increasingly empowered native community courtesy of the opposition.

Masing is said to be a thorn in Taib’s side. In the run-up to last year’s state election, Masing, unhappy with Taib constantly ignoring his proposals, met directly with Najib and in one instant managed to thwart attempts to allow an ex-PRS incumbent elected representative, Larry Sng, from contesting.

On Saturday, stamping PRS’ sway over Sarawak’s majority Dayak community, Masing said the party was the “custodian” of Dayak interest and that its elected representatives were “duty bound” to protect the race.

“For all intents and purposes, PRS is the party which truly represents rural constituencies where most of the Dayaks happen to reside.

“Therefore, we do not apologise for who we are and the basis of our political stand and struggles,” he said alluding perhaps to the known ‘issues’ between him and Taib.

Masing further warned members to be wary of “attempts” to stir discontent within the party adding that enemies and approaches came in different forms.

“There are people who are envious of our strength and will try to de-stabilise us. They maybe individuals or groups.

“They will (either) contest against us when the general election is called (or) slyly fight us by pretending to our friends or friends of the group and pull us down.

“The other way is to de-stabilise us is by picking on some of our members who exhibit certain weaknesses. This will be a subtle approach and by people who we are familiar with. Thus without realizing it, we will fall into a trap which will eventually break the party’s solidarity,” said Masing.

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Pakatan is the custodian of nepotism and term limitless as well as continuation of apartheid. The Dayaks do not need a ‘custodian’, custodianship implies a lack of mental capacity. Do the Dayaks see what an insult Pakatan has offered up to them? The Dayaks will demand equal representation and full 100% disbursement of profits from East Malaysia as well as return of all stolen lands – not this so-called ‘custodianship’. Dayaks in fact could secede and demand a seat at the UN instead of ‘custodianship’. Wake up Dayaks, simply because when someone pretends to talk to you like an adult, that does not mean they respect you or will grant you rights as an equal or allow you the autonomy of an adult – thats like an ADULT ‘pet animal’ being trapped in that cage forever EVEN when adult when their natural preference is to roam the world or set up their own habitates without bars and feeding times or what not . . .

, the Dayaks need to think clearly and fight back against condescension – the contents of the words are those for a child, or in this case mentally inept! Demand equality or leave the Malaysian Federation to form your own nation with a seat at the UN if either caolition BN or PR does not promise via statuary declaration to grant :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

;as well as return ALL stolen and illegally occupied lands as well as 100% disbursement right to ALL wealth from East Malaysia as well as 1st class citizenships. Perhaps after the stupid and shameless or selfish Chinese Malaysian voters and politicians see this action by the Orang Asli will APARTHEID of BUMIPUTERA end.

ARTICLE 8

Errant house owners, beware! – Kong See Hoh – newsdesk@thesundaily.com – Posted on 28 October 2012 – 09:11pm – Last updated on 29 October 2012 – 10:22am

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/527107

KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 28, 2012): Once the Strata Management Bill 2012 is enacted, the management of a gated community can apply for a court order to seize and auction the property of a delinquent house owner to offset management fee owed.

Housing and Local Government Minister Datuk Seri Chor Chee Heung told Sin Chew Daily in an interview published today that this is because house owners were fully aware when they purchased their property that they had to pay monthly management fee for security service rendered.

This rule also applies to gated apartments and condominiums.

The Strata Management Act 2012 (SMA) is to replace the Building and Common Property Act 2007.

Chor said in fact the Building and Common Property Act 2007 empowers the management of a gated community to take the aforesaid action against delinquent property owners, but many people are not aware of this as it is not clearly defined in the act.

He said he had spent a lot of time and talked to not less than 20 related organisations on this matter to come up with the new act
(SMA).

However, he said, the government cannot do anything if house owners in guarded communities refuse to pay for guards hired to watch over and patrol their areas, as it is not stated in the owners’ sale-and-purchase agreement.

Chor also said that under the SMA, residents of a housing area need only obtain the consent of 51% of the residents to set up a guarded community, compared with 80% under the present law.

“Residents who hire guards to beef up security in a housing estate do it on their free will and out of their own pockets. If the other 49% of the residents believe the housing area is safe, and that they need not pay for additional security, they cannot be forced to do so,” said Chor.

He pointed out that roads within a gated community are private property, and therefore residents within the community have the right to deny access to non-residents.

“On the other hand, roads within a guarded community are public property. The security guards have no right to deny non-residents access to the area.”

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This is idiotic and democracy destroying. Beware? Which MPs ratified the act? Which people drafted the act? These 20 organisations who proposed or back these abusive laws are a plague upon the ‘conscientious objectors’ of the gated community! Just because some people want guards does not mean others should pay and backed by government as well! The man’s home is their castle but a group of men with castles unless intending to be thugs or warlords cannot STEAL already paid for ownership because others living around them intend to force them to pay for extraneous services that they do not want. The Housing Minister in fact should act to disallow such laws not implement and announce the same.

This empowers the management of the gated community, or even the Resident’s Committee to unprecedented levels in society, into that of local gangsters, and actual gangsters do not even have power to sell off people’s property! This is like Japan selling China’s Diaoyu Islands! Who paid for the unit? The management, so-called Resident’s Committee or the owner? If the mob mentality of the rest of the residents and colluders want the security, that’s their business and they cannot be penalized for living in the area. Those who do not want to be controlled by the doubtless political party backed so-called managment of gated communities however have every right to refuse to pay. This is blatant legalist bullying legalized gangsterism almost, and cannot be allowed, a feudal mentality of anything. Taking away people’s homes simply for refusing to pay for guards is UN unendorsable in law. Absolutely uncivilised and uneducated. No lawyers on this as usual eh? Bunch of legal lap-dogs that UN has somehow seen fit to award . . .

United Nations should be kicked off US soil: US congressman

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/10/27/268979/un-must-be-kicked-off-us-soil/

The Rakyat had better understand the ramifications of such a law that allows a mere management company or group of mob minded residents to sell property that does not belong to them! Vote out the MPs who began this disaster against democracy! The incidental beneficiary of guards cannot legally be beholden to relinquish 100s of 1000s even millions worth properties because the laws make no sense o r are written with collusion in mind. Vote for 3rd force!

This is also another reason why hi-rise and now gated community units are a serious problem especially with law makers like these. The grey area autonomy issues in common spaces end up being abused in this manner which would doubtless be employed against political opponents of any politicians who are inclined to bing term limitless (meaning ganglord type satrapies withuot term limits), and amounts to protection rackets! So for example a handful of people try to pull a fast one in collusion with as many as possible that they want ‘guards’ (doubtless relatives or cronies with aging parents in the security field) and effectively force everyone else to pay up or their unit will be sold off (by all common sense considerations this is unconstitutional) . . . THEN consider if ethnicity is brought into consideration as well! Structural abuse of civilian rights backed by bad laws!

One can imagine the destruction of the sense of nation further and worsening of management gangs or property developers with this sort of mentality (identify which property developers or land bank owners that write up or assent to such abusive powers and you will identify the 1% in Malaysia that will never allow Allodial Titles and keep raising quit rents and maintenance fees AND NOW with new abusive powers to take away entire life savings worth of properties that the courts also back – all for not paying guards that are their cronies and aging relatives?! Wake up voters! Vote for 3rd Force! Kongsi Ho? More like Boho!

ARTICLE 9

Penalise kratom abuse under Dangerous Drugs Act: Pengasih – Posted on 28 October 2012 – 02:28pm

KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 28, 2012): Drug rehabilitation organisation Pengasih Malaysia today urged the attorney-general to penalise the abuse of kratom (ketum) leaves under the Dangerous Drugs Act instead of the Poisons Act, and also to regard glue-sniffing under the former law as well.

Pengasih president Datuk Mohd Yunus Pathi said this was necessary to check the abuse of kratom leaves, which were addictive, especially if mixed with certain items.

He said a study by Pengasih found that some adults in their 40s consumed a kratom extract mixed with coffee or other drinks to boost their energy.

“Taking a kratom drink on a regular basis will have an adverse effect on the health of the consumer,” he told reporters at Rumah Pengasih, here.

Mohd Yunus also regarded the sniffing of glue as a serious problem.

“There is no specific law on sniffing glue, although the practice can cause brain damage and lead to crime and social ills,” he said.

He proposed that the aftercare programme for former drug addicts be reviewed as certain aspects were seen as obstacles for them to lead a normal life. – Bernama

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/526649

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Ridiculous and condescending. Coffee, Sugar and Milk can also be abused. Try over drinking too much of these everyday drinks/condiments and possibly become very ill. Kratom is also liable to be abused in the same manner or could be taken in moderation as well. ‘. ‘God’ gave man the right to the world and the food and plants on the world. Government is but a group of men. Which group of men have a a right to tell another group what they can  or cannot do? Where are those Organics Psychedelics Zones for much like the ones in Amsterdam? Illegal and rare makes for high profit and high fines . . . for victimless crimes? Undemocratic.

Malaysia’s Coca Leaf

ARTICLE 10

Karpal: DAP reps should only contest one seat in GE – by Edmund Lee – newsdesk@thesundaily.com – Posted on 26 October 2012 – 04:26pm

GEORGE TOWN (Oct 26, 2012) : Veteran lawmaker Karpal Singh has called on party representatives who hold both parliamentary and state seats to declare that they will only contest one seat in the next general election.

He said that during one of the party’s central executive committee (CEC) meetings, the committee had agreed by consensus that a candidate should only hold two seats in “exceptional” cases.

” I had suggested that Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng should be considered an exception, ” he said at a press conference in Farlim market earlier today.

Karpal said that at present the party has nine representatives holding two seats – three in Penang, two in Perak, one each in Negri Sembilan, Selangor, Kuching and Sibu.

The three who are holding two seats in Penang are Lim, state DAP chairman Chow Kon Yeow and Deputy Chief Minister II P Ramasamy.

Lim is currently Bagan MP and Air Putih assemblyman, Chow is Tanjong MP and Padang Kota assemblyman while Ramasamy is the Batu Kawan MP and Prai assemblyman.

Karpal, who is also DAP national chairman said it was up to the CEC to decide which seat the candidate should give up.

He added that there should not be any difficulties in surrendering seats as the DAP was no longer short of candidates.

Chow was recently quoted as saying that the party would allow its candidates to concurrently contest two seats if the situation calls for it.

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After a slew of DAP failures and 90% failed campaign promises as well as a scores of abusive run ins with the local traders and residents over refusals to amend laws, 1 SINGLE move towards best practices in democracy (outweighed by dozens of worst practices) will not make a difference to the voters aware of the undemocratic rubbish DAP now is. Karpal being such a veteran politician should know that this single action cannot change the minds of the educated voters at all because democracy is only for DAP members and no other Rakyat at all. DAP is such a hateful political party, term limitless and nepotistic to boot! Again I post what the voters need to know :

REPOSTED WARNING ABOUT NEPOTISM : Please note the Oligarchs in Pakatan as listed below :

NEPOTISM IN PAKATAN RAKYAT Three of the family blocs below must be challenged so that only a single candidate without relatives remains :

Lim Kit Siang (MP Ipoh Timur – Perak)
Lim Guan Eng (MP Air Puteh – Penang)
Chew Gek Cheng (Assemblyman Kota Laksamana – Malacca) Guan Eng’s wife
Lim Hui Ying Guan Eng’s sister (Vice-Chairman)
Two of the below must be challenged so that only a single candidate without relatives remains :
Karpal Singh (MP Jelutong – Penang)
Gobind Singh (MP Puchong – Selangor) Karpal’s son
Jagdeep Singh (Asssemblyman Dato Keramat – Penang) Karpal’s son
Two of the below must be challenged so that only a single candidate without relatives remains :
Anwar Ibrahim (MP Permatang Pauh, Seberang Prai)
Wan Azizah
Nurul Izzah Anwar(MP Lembah Pantai – Kuala Lumpur)
Anwar’s Daughter Also either Ngeh (Pantai Remis) or Nga (Sitiawan) must go to prevent 2nd degree nepotism and the kind of environment that caused DAP’s Kulasegaran, PKR’s Gobalakrishnan, to be kicked out possibly an act of racism but more likely at the order of the Lim Dynasty clique. BN of course we do not need to discuss, blocs of relatives galore.
Nepotism: Umno controlled by 3 families. – by Patric McClean
MCA, MIC, Gerakan are also littered with nepotism – political parties are not family clan associations (family clan associations being unpopular enough already due to the same politicking as well whu=ich drives same named families away from the same structures . . . ).
For even stronger consideration, I also list seats that HRP demands :
1. Padang Serai (Incumbent: PKR – N Gobalakrishnan)
2. Batu Kawan (DAP – Ramasamy)
3. Sungei Siput (PSM – Dr D Jeyakumar)
4. Ipoh Barat (DAP – N Kulasegaran)
5. Bagan Datoh (BN – Ahmad Zahid Hamidi)
6. Cameron Highlands (BN – SK Devamany)
7. Hulu Selangor (BN – P Kamalanathan)
8. Kuala Selangor (PAS – Dzulkefy Ahmad)
9. Klang (DAP – Charles Santiago)
10. Kota Raja (PAS – Siti Mariah Mahmud)
11. Rasah (DAP – Anthony Loke)
12. Teluk Kemang (PKR – Kamarul Baharin Abbas)
13. Alor Gajah (BN – Fong Chan Onn)
14. Tebrau (BN – Teng Boon Soon)
15. Lembah Pantai (PKR – Nurul Izzah Anwar)
HRP might very well be aware of some things we are not aware of to list some surprising choices as well, do not discount their reasons. PSM’s Jeyakumar appears to have been bought by BN though, so their viability is uncertain until PSM’s clique leadership changes. I have done some probing and casual calls to PSM, they are not very grassroots and quite a clique based outfit very suspicious of outsiders.
DAP of course (also tried earlier) is far worse and absolutely TREACHEROUS and clique based and beholden to SINGAPORE’s PAP. I would not be surprised if the nepotists in DAP are rounded up a 2nd time, for collusions with Singapore to subvert Malaysian Federal authority instead amongst other things like ‘neurotech abuse’.
Everyone else, should meanwhile stand as independents in any constituency with bad assemblymen or MPs or people who do not endorse term limits and asset declarations. Here’s something that will help voters decide if candidacy is not their thing or too expensive :
Barisan – Apartheid, Corrupt and Nepotistic-Oligarchs
Pakatan – Corrupt and Nepotistic-Oligarchs (excepting PAS)
3rd Force – Corrupt Only
Independents – any citizen can be an independent, think you are not a plutocrat (worth less than 20 million), will respect term limits and not write 750K/120K funeral laws in favour of yourself? Not racist? Then run for election! The world needs you!  Here’s something that will help voters decide if candidacy is not their thing or too expensive : Pick the coalition with the least flaws.
BN = 90% Apartheid, 90% Nepotism, 90% Corrupt
PR = 50% Nepotism, 50% Corrupt
3rd Force = 0% Nepotism, 0% Corruption
Pick the coalition with the least flaws. End the APARTHEID ! Destroy the Oligarchs in all political coalitions ! 3rd Force is best. Beware voters, as mentioned many times before, it could be critical that Selangor and Penang MUST be controlled by neutral parties neither BN nor PR dominated, and East Malaysia controlled by local East Malaysian political parties ONLY (not Peninsular Coalitions like BN or PR), with the remainded left for Pakatan Rakyat, OTHERWISE Pakatan Rakyat with its burgeoning nepotists and oligarchs will become a second BN. Vote 3rd Force!
ARTICLE 11
Berjaya Land plans RM9.92bil casino and mall on Jeju Island – by TEE LIN SAY – linsay@thestar.com.my | Nov 2, 2012Ng: Jeju Resort will create some 4,000 jobsJEJU ISLAND: Berjaya Land Bhd’s (BLand) US$3.2bil (RM9.92bil) Berjaya Jeju Resort will feature the biggest casino and shopping mall in South Korea, along with condominiums, villas, hotels and a landmark building once it is completed.The first phase to be launched will be its 51 villas and 96 “market walk” units with a gross development value of US$250mil, with prices starting from US$1,000 (RM3,300) per sq ft.BLand chief executive officer Datuk Francis Ng is confident of generating 25% return from Phase 1 alone.“In South Korea, we can only start selling the units once we have done 20% of construction works. We should be able to start selling in three to four months. However, our pre-marketing is already starting,” he said.Ng said this at the opening ceremony of BLand’s property gallery here.He added that for the moment, Phase 1 would be fully funded by internal funds, although some financiers had expressed interest to provide loans. The entire Phase 1 should be completed in 26 months.Right now, Jeju Island has the support of the Central Government of South Korea to transform the area into an international tourist destination, matching the likes of Hong Kong and Singapore.BLand’s wholly owned subsidiary Berjaya Leisure (Cayman) Ltd has a 72.6% stake in the project, while Jeju Free International City Development Centre has a 19% stake and Swan Street Partner LLP holds the remaining 8.4%.Ng said the Jeju Resort, which has one kilometre coastline, would create some 4,000 jobs and would help provide more hotel accommodations currently not available on the resort island.“We will have some three hotels in our resort. Right now, we are in talks with Ritz Carlton to be our partner for one of our hotels,” he said.Since venturing into the project in 2008, BLand has pumped in some US$100mil (RM310mil) on the infrastructure works itself. It bought the 75-acre freehold land for US$62mil (RM192.2mil) or US$8 (RM24.80) per sq ft.Currently, buyers who buy properties worth US$500,000 and above in Jeju Island will be entitled to permanent residency in the resort island.On the casino front, Ng said the group was not in a hurry to proceed with the development as presently, the South Korean government had yet to issue domestic casino licences.The local government of Jeju Island is in talks with the Central Government of South Korea to review the liberalisation of this domestic casino licence. Jeju Island is a self governing province in South Korea.Meanwhile, for the shopping mall component, BLand intends to develop it on its own and look for a local partner.

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We don’t NEED another tycoon and another stupid money laundering purposes and inaccessible super casino in ANOTHER country. We want 4D outlets to offer casino games in our street corners. We want casino billionaires to change the law to ensure the rights of non-Muslims to gamble be not interfered with in the above suggestions! Preferably monopoly free and non-relative franchise related!

ARTICLE 12

Malaysian employers practise racial bigotry, study shows – Friday, 02 November 2012 admin-s

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2012/november2012/02/workers-nov2.jpgFile photo of a Workers’ Day rally in Kuala Lumpur. Two academics found that there is racial discrimination in the hiring process based on an experiment they had conducted.

(The Malaysian Insider) – Malaysian employers tend to favour Chinese job applicants over their Malay counterparts, a recent university study has shown, indicating racial discrimination underscores the hiring process in the private sector labour market.

In their joint research, Universiti Malaya (UM) senior lecturer in development studies Dr Lee Hwok Aun and Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM) research fellow Dr Muhammed Abdul Khalid found that fresh Chinese graduates are more likely to be called for a job interview based on their resumes compared to Malays.

“Our findings suggest that employers are generally predisposed favourably towards Chinese, substantially due to compatibility factors and unobservable qualities not revealed in job applications, and are more selective towards Malays, which results in fewer but considerably qualified applicants getting callbacks,” the duo stated in an abstract of their seminar paper being presented at UM today.

The two academics said they had conducted a field experiment by sending made-up resumes of fresh Malay and Chinese graduates to real job advertisements.

From their research, Lee and Muhammed Abdul found that while both Malay and Chinese graduates who listed Chinese-language proficiency and stated that they graduated from a certain university were likely to increase their chances to be called for an interview, yet employers — especially those that were Chinese-controlled or foreign-run — were significantly inclined to pick the Chinese applicant.

They noted that the racial discrimination was sharper in engineering jobs than in the accounting or finance sector.

They also found that in the engineering industry, Malays were most likely to be rejected by foreign-controlled companies, followed by Malay-controlled companies and lastly Chinese-controlled firms.

However, they said their data does not directly show the motif of the racial discrimination in the hiring process based on the experiment they had conducted.

Lee and Muhammed Abdul are presenting their paper, titled “Does race matter in getting an interview? A field experiment of hiring discrimination in Peninsular Malaysia”, at UM’s Economics and Administration Faculty at 10am.

Malaysia’s mushrooming local higher education institutions churned out a total 184,581 graduates last year, according to the latest statistics released on the Higher Education Ministry’s website. Of that figure, 44,391 people or 24 per cent are unemployed. The Najib administration has set aside some RM500 million in its Budget 2013 to spend on jobless youths to make them marketable.

Read more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/malaysian-employers-practise-racial-bigotry-study-shows/

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The first comment below says quite abit on why this happens.


written by @GetReal, November 02, 2012 20:43:29
There are very poor grounds for the survey to be meaningful. The survey is carried out in a country which practise institutionalised discrimmination. Admission to Government universities are on race base quotas and not merit. Standards have been lowered to accommodate students who were admitted on the basis of the quota. None Malay students are the creme de la creme and have to work hard to justify their father’s scholarship. So we expect vastly different standards in the graduates. The private universities probably produce better graduates as they have genuinely better qualified lecturers. I met a none Malay electronics engineer who helps to design programmable computer chips.. He is paid an annual salary of Rgt.500,000 He says some lecturers in the local Government Uni have a problem understanding his lectures! Race based quota is the cause of race based discrimination.


written by @upsidedown119, November 02, 2012 20:35:33
written by Imprimatur: As an employer in Malaysia, and a foreigner to boot, I have observed middle management with very obvious preferences based not so much on race but on the perceived values that each race allegedly has…….If I had to jump on the racist bandwagon that seems so popular here, I would actually say that the attitude displayed by people like mvinside makes a good case against hiring Chinese employees … nothing worse than staff filled with pride at their race’s perceived strengths and having little else to offer.

Base on the obvious bias in your comment, it’s not hard to conclude that either you or your company is the sub-contractor of a UMNO-BN crony contractor or the manager of a crony company itself. Your comments runs counter to my own observations many members of top management, including of public-listed companies!

But if you are the beneficiary of a UMNO-BN crony contract, then the ‘buta gaji’ for those extraneous engineers are already provided for in the inflated contract price! If not, you are likely to go bankrupt.


written by @EU, November 02, 2012 20:18:23
Why don’t you do a survey on the private malay companies? They almost employed 100% malays, unlike the chinese companies. And from experience, even if two resumes are the same, I can tell you, the chinese can speak better English than the malays because the malays will always answer back in B.M. They refused to speak other languages. Also I know that the malay ladies also will go to prayer room in the afternoon. Friday, Malay guys will be allowed to go to mosques. Employers are looking for profitability. Chinese only takes little time for lunch and work overtime too. Employers are also very wary of dismissing a malay staff even if he or she is not performing. So, the private sectors more likely to call in chinese for interview because they believe their qualifications are real. It is a matter of trust and through experience.


written by @Jimmy Lim, November 02, 2012 19:32:42
Our locally qualified professors are really HP6. cant even think critically, laterally n vertically. writing such utter rubbish.


written by @Jimmy Lim, November 02, 2012 19:23:18
What a lot of crap. Bias n racist study. What about GLC n Govt where 99% are malays?


written by @EU, November 02, 2012 11:51:37
I don’t believe this report. How is it my former china man company employs more malays than chinese. And in my department, out of 15 employees, only 2 are chinese. If the public sectors do not employ chinese and private sectors also will not employ chinese, then, where would the Chinese go. Are they satisfy only when the chinese have no jobs and become beggars. This kind of report is not helpful at all. It only stirred up the races. It is only logical that since more malays are employed in the public sectors, they are less likely to go for the private companies that offer no pensions on retiring. Whereas, there will be more chinese applying for private jobs since they cannot get into the public sectors.


written by @Kiwi, November 02, 2012 18:23:40
Actually the comments are more interesting than the article. What they reveal is why as an outsider I look at Malaysia and shake my head and what bigots so many of you are.

About half the commenters argue that discrimination like this does occur, but it’s justified because Chinese are hardworking/ smarter etc. You ignore that the resumes were identical but only the race was different. But you think that discrimination is acceptable because your stereotype of Malays in general is that they are lazy/ poor workers etc. Well my friends that is the precise definition of racism. You have two identical candidates and you make a judgement that one is inferior to another based on his or her race.
The other half of commenters say that this is discrimination but it’s ok because the Government sector discriminates against non Malays. So two wrongs make a right. Then you go on to suggest that Chinese employers only started discriminating against Malays because of the NEP. Yet you are ignorant of history. The Tunku back in the sixties was speaking with the Australian ambassador from his office in KL. He pointed across the shop lots below and said (I paraphrase) how many of these businesses owned by Chinese will employ a Malay worker – almost none.[[[ *** Response to Comment by @Kiwi *** ]]] So Malay Special Privileges were applied for 15 years after which they were to be reviewed for ending, UMNO did not review. Social Contract broken, the Chinese retaliated. So the reality is that the NEP misused as it may have become was a result of Chinese racism in employment not the cause of it. Want further evidence? Walk through a shopping centre in Australia or NZ and look at the businesses owned by Chinese. How many non-Chinese do they employ? None. Is that the fault of the NEP too?[[[ *** Response to Comment *** ]]] Chinese in Australia has nothing to do with race, but religious habits impacting upon the secular/commercial sphere. Muslims are too religious to do business well (many Malays are forced to be Muslims or lose bumi privileges – or are Muslims by habit if not sometimes violent inculpation by sick minded authoritarian parents – because of the abuse and shame in the childhood coercion to abide religion cases, Muslims are quite closed as a society by necessity and have many inane(insane?) religious rules that impinge on secular society such as loud prayers 5 times daily, Friday halfdays (thats 2 halfdays a 7 day week), MANY Holy days which MUST be holidays that the employer has to bear the brunt of, avoiding pork and alcohol which is served everywhere etc..) with the larger community, so Muslims will always attract less secular customers and employers, which is what Australia and even Malaysia mainly is, secular. Don’t try to create problems by fingering the Chinese when the issue is religious preference caused by the Malays themselves …
written by Babu, November 02, 2012 11:53:48
Have they done the studies in government related jobs? Like the public office, etc? We are not blind you know? I don’t know why the Chinese have to be made like it is something wrong with them for being better, faster or knowledgable. Probably they are good at adapting to the economic environment.Maybe if you put Chinese in the jungle they would be dead in 2 days compared to the native people. It’s all about adaptation to the environment. If your culture blocks your advancement, don’t blame it on the chinese or anyone else. The Chinese have more reasons to blame the NEP and lopsided affirmative actions when it comes to retarding their advancement.
ARTICLE 13
Al-Arqam’s shadow cabinet uncovered – by HARIZ MOHD | news@nst.com.my 2 commentsKhatijah Am, known to her followers as Ummu Jah, had been living in self-imposed exile in Mecca for the past few years.KUALA LUMPUR: THE banned Al-Arqam movement, 41 ministries, including for souls, death, ritual sex, led by the founder’s wife, Khatijah Am, is said to have formed a “shadow cabinet” with 41 ministries, including the ministry of the netherworld (kementerian alam ghaib).This was part of its plot to overthrow the government and form an Islamic state, according to information compiled by intelligence agencies.Also listed in its shadow cabinet were the ministries of true souls and sects (roh suci dan tariqat), death and the hereafter (kematian dan akhirat) and family and holy sex (keluarga dan seks suci).Intelligence sources said Khatijah, who is the widow of Ashaari Muhammad and has been living in Mecca after his death, had been holding monthly meetings with “top leaders” of the sect in Malaysia via video conferencing.A source said 54 meetings, dubbed “roh parlimen” (soul parliament) by Khatijah, had been held so far.In their “parliamentary meetings”, which had begun in May 2010, Khatijah had assumed the position as their “prime minister”.”To ensure that Al-Arqam leaders and followers stayed with the movement and follow her orders, Khatijah claimed she received direct orders from her late husband,” a source said.

“She had been involved in running the movement even when Ashaari was still alive. Ashaari suffered a mild stroke in 2005.”

The source added that Khatijah, known to followers as Ummu Jah, had been living in self-imposed exile in Mecca for the past few years.

The group, the source said, had received funding from more than 30 welfare homes in Malaysia run by their proxies.

Some homes run by key personnel in Al-Arqam were registered with the Welfare Department and received government funding.

“These welfare homes received donations, not only from the government, but private companies and unsuspecting individuals as well,” said the source.

“From our intelligence reports, only a small portion of the donations received were used for the homes while the remaining went to Khatijah’s accounts,” the source said, adding that Khatijah lived lavishly in a mansion rented for 340,000 riyal (RM276,000) a year.

The mansion, called RSA Palace, has a conference room, an elevator, gymnasium, sauna and a swimming pool. The source said the movement collected an average of RM800,000 in donations every month.

Meanwhile, Islamic Development Department (Jakim) director-general Datuk Othman Mustapha said they were collecting evidence on the group’s activities.

“We found that the group, through its company, still continues with its deviant teachings. All the claims that Ashaari is Imam Mahdi and Ummu Jah can communicate with her late husband are blatant lies.

“We hope those with information on their activities will come forward to assist in our investigations.”

Al-Arqam was decreed a deviant sect in 1994 by the National Fatwa Council after it was found to have practised Aurad Muhammadiah teachings which was described as misleading Muslims from the true Islamic beliefs.

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Al-Arqam is peaceful in the legal physical sense but in the spiritual sense doing much illegal thought via spiritual methods. Ethics also require that the spiritual state of people need to be allowed autonomy. Al-Arqam’s manipulation is much like Malaysian Syariah laws that effectively force Malays via ‘Bumiputra Privilege Removal’ threats to keep Muslims in Islam, or disallow choice to young children in Muslim families to choose their faith.

This is the abuse fostered by Islam that offends the Western and modern world so much, that makes countries like Malaysia into pariahs among nations. Don’t even get into what the worst of the Middle East does to their people. Religion is a tool of control nothing else when applied in this manner. Were children allowed to choose, Islam could well disappear from the planet in as soon as 1 generation. The only way to keep Islam alive is with violence and forced inculpation or bribery with material ‘Islamist’ benefits like in Malaysia’s biased and minority disenfranchising, Malay only – ethnicity based discriminating Bumiputra Apartheid system. If Muslims only seek the afterlife, then why is the entire faith is fillled with money grubbing infidels who care not for the suffering of their fellow Muslims, much less fellow men, what with the extreme wealth some Muslims have and the corruption and lack of ethics everywhere else.

ARTICLE 14

WHY ANWAR IBRAHIM? Time to end race-based politics in Malaysia Featured – written by  John Lee M K – Tuesday, 02 October 2012 13:41

It ignores a simple reality: Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim has already made history by being the first Malay politician to ever actually win more political support through an explicitly non-racial platform. It is practically impossible to underestimate how Anwar bucked the trend; he has completely turned our understanding of politics in this country on its head.

History has already made it crystal-clear; Malay politicians who try to unite the country by appealing to a common sense of Malaysian-ness inevitably wind up heading into political oblivion. Dato Onn Ja’afar’s political career went up in flames the moment he founded the first multiracial political party in the country, in spite of it having every conceivable advantage – it was literally the incumbent party of the time because of Onn’s towering status in Malayan politics. And it, of course, foundered completely.

Since then nobody has even tried to unite the Malays as Malaysians. Unite the Malays as Malays, of course; Syed Jaafar Albar famously proclaimed in the 1960s that he was a Malay first and a Malaysian second. Syed Hussein Alatas made an admirable attempt to change Malaysian politics through Gerakan, and we all know how that turned out. Literally every Malay leader who has tried to be Malaysian first ever since has risked being branded as a sell-out, a puppet of the non-Malays and a stooge of Lee Kuan Yew.

The one exception was Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, who experienced some brief success with his Bangsa Malaysia idea. This only makes sense, considering Dr Mahathir’s iron-fisted handling of anyone who dared to oppose him; it is thus a pity that he never took this policy beyond mere words.

The moment Dr Mahathir handed over the reins to his successor, Malay politicians were up in arms criticising Bangsa Malaysia as a ‘nebulous’ and untenable concept for daring to acknowledge that the non-Malays have a place in this country too.

Brave enough to dump ketuanan Melayu

So here we are today: 51 years after independence, the easiest way to tar a Malay politician next to calling him a Jew-lover is to accuse him of saying this country belongs to the Chinese and Indians too. That is simply how Malaysian politics works; to win the support of the Malays, you need to denounce the non-Malays as foreign squatters, who are only here as a matter of privilege rather than right, a privilege revocable at any time.

And what a coincidence it is – that is exactly how the Malaysian government works too. If you’re not an Indonesian who can be counted as a Malay, your application for permanent residency or citizenship can never hope to see the light of day. If you’re not a Malay, you can expect to hear your fair share of racist remarks in a public national school – and not from students, mind you, but teachers.

As a student you can expect a syllabus which teaches you about the meaning of ketuanan Melayu rather than bangsa Malaysia. As an employee you can expect a civil service where you’re not welcome unless they need you to fulfil their minuscule quota of non-Malay recruits. As an entrepreneur you can expect a government – and many government-linked companies – which will not give you any business unless you are a Malay. Half a century after independence, and that’s what 40% of this country has to look forward to.

And since this is how the government works, up-and-coming politicians and political activists realise this is how politics works too. That is why even though you will never hear the typical Malaysian voicing such sentiments, political activists will readily denounce the non-Malays as foreign squatters here at the behest of a social contract which gives them the privilege, not right, to stay and live here.

Since this is how politics and government have worked since time immemorial, we owe Anwar an incredible debt for nearly single-handedly turning all this – everything – completely on its head.

‘Anak Melayu, anak saya. Anak Cina, anak saya. Anak India, anak saya’

For the past half century, to be a good Malay leader, you have either had to publicly proclaim your support for ketuanan Melayu – and not the mild ketuanan as in strong leadership, but ketuanan as in ‘blood will run in the streets if our demands are not met’ – or you have had to simply avoid commenting on the issue and just hope you can be all things to all people.

Anwar ran on a platform, not of vague meaningless nice-sounding platitudes, but a platform explicitly against everything ketuanan Melayu stands for.

This is a man, mind you, who celebrated the end of his ban on active politics by damning ketuanan Melayu and consigning it to the dust heap of history. This is a man who has publicly and repeatedly proclaimed that his commitment is to the sovereignty of the people – ketuanan rakyat – rather than the dominance of the Malays.

This is a man who has never wavered from his stand that the philosophy of government assistance based on racial origin, rather than economic status, is fundamentally and morally wrong. This is a man who has repeatedly, wherever he goes, whoever he speaks to, driven home the same point, again and again: ‘Anak Melayu, anak saya. Anak Cina, anak saya. Anak India, anak saya.’

And this is a man who has had everything in the traditional playbook of Malaysian politics thrown at him. He’s been labelled a heretic, a sodomite, a liar, a hypocrite, a traitor willing to sell the Malays and Malaysians out at a moment’s notice. The ruling coalition has done everything in their power to make it known far and wide that this is a man committed to non-racialism; committed to a Malaysia where everyone belongs.

Regardless of whether you think he deserves it, or if he was just lucky, credit is due to Anwar: where so many brave Malay leaders have fallen and failed, he has won an incredible victory. Onn Ja’afar was vilified simply for opening up his political party to Malayans of all creeds and colours; Anwar has gone above and beyond, explicitly declaring that this is a country for all Malaysians, whoever they might be. And he has won a resounding victory.

Broke new frontiers

It would be one thing if he scraped through with a majority of less than 5,000 votes in the recent by-election, but the fact is, it was not even close – not with a landslide majority of 15,000, larger even than the majority his wife won before he explicitly condemned ketuanan Melayu. Anwar has succeeded where everyone else has failed; he has carved out a broad base of political support, not on a platform of rights or privileges for one community, but a platform of justice and equality of opportunity for all communities.

Criticise Anwar all you like for his inconsistent and wishy-washy stands on other issues. Criticise his coalition for its internal dissension and strange hypocrisy all you want. You can even say you have no intention of trusting a man who might just stab you in the back the moment he gains power.

The fact of the matter is, you do not have a choice between Anwar and your ideal, committed, consistent, sincere Malaysian leader. Your choice, in the here and now, is between Anwar and a regime built on racism, built on stoking the flames of mistrust and hatred. This regime of hatred has delivered its promise of ketuanan Melayu; why should we expect things to be any worse under a regime promising ketuanan rakyat?

At the worst, it’s the same old shit under a different government; at best, we might finally have a government and a political system which works for all Malaysians rather than whoever yells the loudest and threatens the most blood.

Making the Malaysian dream a reality

As far as taking power is concerned, this is still a long shot. Anwar may yet turn out to be a flop on delivering if he ever gets the chance to govern. But the simple and stark reality is, as far as we who live in the present are concerned, he is our best and only chance to put a stop to this insanity.

Anwar is not the perfect vessel for uniting the country, but there is a reason he scares the powers that be: he is the first real chance we have ever had to unite the country against the demons of racialism and parochialism. And for now, he is our only chance. He is the only one who can cross ethnic barriers to proclaim a commitment to a Malaysia where Malaysians, not Malays, are sovereign, and actually win more support than before.

I am no huge fan of Anwar, but I recognise what he has done, and how far he has come. I support him, not because I like him as a person, but because I believe in the cause he champions, and because I believe that if there is any person in this country who can make that dream a reality, it is Anwar Ibrahim.

MAILBAG

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Lies. 90% of campaign promises failed by RPK’s reports PKR had 8% quorums for Anwar’s PKR Presidency. Anwar has never mentioned in any clear certain terms (as in the below 3 items) ending apartheid of bumiputra and even has tolerated PAS and DAP’s attempts to implement Hudud. John ‘Chattering Classes’ Lee has been unthinkingly a PKR supporter too long :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

;and has not made clear on the above 3 items or showed any inclination to run as an independent candidate.

ARTICLE 15

Rise above politics, reject Lim Kit Siang’s Nepotistic DAP – Kong Cho Ha tells PR MPs – Re-written by – @AgreeToDisagree – Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:55

In the past 24 hours, two DAP MPs have broken ranks and swung their support for 3rd Force’s call for the immediate suspension of the DAP for ‘campaign promise failure’ offences, pending full study of various public interest issues related to its implementation.

The first to do so is the 3rd Force Youth leader and MP who, after a meeting of the 3rd Force Youth executive council yesterday, called for the government ROS to suspend DAP as a review of the system was necessary to rectify democratic weaknesses in DAP. Today, a 3rd Force MP for Sabah, who is also Deputy Chairman of 3rd Force Backbenchers Club (BNBBC)  also crossed the political divide to back the BN call for suspension of DAP.

The BARISAN state governments have already given approval for the suspension of DAP until conclusion of full study and a proper consultation process with all the relevant stakeholders.

Put public good above all

The question now is whether there is any DAP MP, Deputy Minister or Minister who dare  to break ranks to call for immediate suspension of DAP to produce the first fruit of DAP’s two-year-old “failed campaign promises” or whether all the boasts of “campaign promises” are just bunkum.

Since the DAP Supremo, Lim Kit Siang has refused to listen to the legitimate concerns about the keeping of canpaign promises, I call on all 3rd Force MPs, whether Minister, Deputy Minister or ordinary backbencher; or other 3rd Force component parties; whether from Peninsular Malaysia, Sabah or Sarawak, to follow the example of 3rd Forcers to support the call for the immediate suspension of Pakatan Rakyat for failure to decxlare assets as promised, failure to implement Local Council Elections and other abuses of democratic processes.

MPs from both 3rd Force and BN can effect an immediate suspension of the Pakatan Rakyat by adopting a common position during the committee stage of the 2013 Budget debate on the Transport Ministry on 20th November 2012.

3rd Force has 25 political parties and if there are at least another 36 MPs from Barisan Nasional and Independents who support the suspension of the Pakatan Rakyat to make a total of a parliamentary majority, then Lim Kit Siang would have no  choice but to resign as MP of Bandar Melaka and all posts in the DAP Committee and Pakatan Supreme Council as per democratic requirments and limits on terms, if Lim Kit Siang refuses to heed the voice of the majority of MPs to immediately drop all MPs who have family blocs and have breached term limit prohibitions.

While 3rd Force is against the implementation of the AES system alongside Pakatan Rakyat, the severe failure and shamelessly undemocratic, nepotistic and term limitless culture of DAP is unacceptable.

@AgreeToDisagree is the 3rd Force adviser & independent lobby of 3rd force MPs.

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AES implementation has been suspended in Pakatan Rakyat controlled states for now.

ARTICLE 16

Demoguery? People slip in their postings. RPK slips far more often IMHO . . .

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Not all Chinese are interested in power for power’s sake, rather Chinese need the power to ensure Democracy as in the below 3 items, and also to prevent Hudud by weak minded seemingly insane Dhimmifiers of the world which UMNO is and UMNO having continued apatheid in Malaysia against minorities like the Chinese necessitates – THIS IS WHY the Chinese want to kick out the Malay Umno government NOT greed and lust (for money or as the poorly applied NLP indicates – sexuality which we all know RPK has issues about in the LGBT area, even though none are forcing their will on RPK . . . ) :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

RPK should not display this lack of ability to differentiate between the types of Chinese who hold types of mindsets, and not just lump all Chinese into a single group – i.e. Lustful and Greedy. The Chinese? the entire Malay race is probably mixed-half-chinese/half-Orang Asli and RPK isn’t even truly ‘Malay’ anymore . . . stop ethnic profiling, and start reading the Human Rights Charter. Say with me . . . H-U-M-A-N- this is more difficult than teaching an Orang Utan to smoke or wear a monkey-suit. Lazy or senile? Or human rights unaware? Maybe all 3. Whats wrong with you RPK? RPK is getting less and less viable to challenge as an MP despite the finances and networks . . .

ARTICLE 17

RM46mil allocated to four restoration projects in Penang by – davidtan@thestar.com.my | Nov 3, 2012

SINCE George Town received Unesco World Heritage Site (WHS) status in 2008, over RM46.3mil has been allocated to restoration work in four major heritage projects.

The most well-known of these heritage properties restored are the Choong Lye Hock mansion and the Loke Thye Kee building.

The other two restoration projects are by Asian Global Business (AGB) and Public Packages Holdings Bhd involving commercial offices and warehouses built in the early 20th century at Weld Quay and Church Street Ghaut.

The AGB Group is restoring two early 20th century commercial and warehouse properties to be an integrated RM220mil Rice Miller Hotel and Residences, which is an in-fill development project.

An in-fill development involves constructing a project from scratch.

The cost of restoring a heritage project depends on the quality of finishing used and normally ranges between RM300 and RM400 per sq ft.

Sometimes a company spends more for restoration because of the condition and age of the property.

A prime heritage property in George Town can fetch rental of between RM5 and RM10 per sq ft, which means that a 2,000 sq ft heritage property strategically located can generate a rental of RM10,000 to RM20,000 a month, according to Henry Butcher Malaysia (Penang) vice-president Shawn Ong.

The Choong Lye Hock mansion restoration project, located on 48,943 sq ft at Macalister Road, was undertaken by local businessman Datuk Sean H’ng and his wife Datin Karen H’ng.

The Choong Lye Hock mansion belonged to a tycoon and philanthropist, who bought the property in the late-1890s.

Lye Hock is the father of local millionaire Ch’ng Eng Hye and the grandfather of badminton legend Datuk Eddy Choong.

The restored building, now known as Macalister Mansion (MM), has eight hotel rooms, two restaurants called The Dining Room and The Living Room, and two bars called the Bagan Bar and The Den.

Macalister Mansion opened its doors to the public in April 2012.

According to MM public relations director Josephine Leong, the planning and the restoration work for the 17,286 sq ft mansion took about 20 months.

“This is corporate responsibility initiative project to demonstrate that old colonial buildings can be regenerated into useful and practical spaces with a contemporary feel.

“Some eight months were spent on planning the design with a Singapore-based interior design company, Ministry of Design (MOD) to produce stunning interior designs.

“It took us 12 months to restore and reinforce the original columns, staircases and archways, original brick walls and wall cornices.

Leong says the Macalister Mansion project was more about a labour of love.

“The owners want to raise the bar in the boutique hotel scene in Penang. As global travellers, they would like to bring back that differentiated hotel experience where guests get to enjoy a more personalised and intimate level of service within luxurious surroundings,” Leong adds.

Raine & Horne Malaysia director Michael Geh says about RM2mil or about RM630 per sq ft was spent on restoring Loke Thye Kee, known as the oldest restaurant in Penang, at Burmah Road.

According to Geh, a local investment company, Loke Thye Kee.com, set up by Singaporean investors, bought the double-storey property from a local businessman some about six years ago.

“About two years, which included also the time to obtain the green light from the local authorities for renovation, was spent on restoring the building with approximately 3,200sq ft of built-up area.

“It has been leased to a local company called Food People Sdn Bhd, which plans to set up soon a Hainanese restaurant, and food and beverage outlets,” he says.

Known as the House of Happiness in Hainanese, the Loke Thye Kee restaurant was established by brothers Loy Kok Boon and Loy Kok Dai, who leased the building from local businessman and philanthropist Khoo Sian Ewe.

Loke Thye Kee serves traditional Hainanese and Western cuisine such as curry kapitan, choon piah, and chicken chop.

AGB Group spent RM21.5mil or RM860 per sq ft to restore two heritage commercial and warehouse properties built in the early 20th century at Weld Quay.

AGB chief executive officer Dr Noraini Abdullah says the restoration turned out to be costly because a lot of work had to be done for strengthening the physical buildings, as their conditions were bad.

“About RM16mil was spent for restoring and reinforcing the physical infrastructure of the warehouse building, which serves as the event hall of the Rice Miller Hotel.

“Another RM5.5mil was spent in restoring a 5,000 sq ft colonial commercial building that will serve as the restaurant for the Rice Miller Hotel,” she adds.

The Rice Miller Hotel and Residences project is scheduled for completion next August and scheduled for opening in Dec 2013.

It will comprise 48 hotel suites, 99 city residences, which range between 800 and 2,500 sq ft in built-up, 23 retail lots of 600 sq ft, and two blocks of five-storey office buildings.

“In the past 12 months, we have sold 50% of the retail lots and city residences. Most of the buyers comprise Penangites and investors from Ipoh and Kuala Lumpur,” she adds.

Next to the Rice Miller Hotel and Residences project, Public Packages Holdings Bhd (PPHB) is restoring two heritage double-storey commercial properties with over 39,632 sq ft to be integrated into a RM50mil in-fill heritage hotel cum commercial project located at Church Street Ghaut, off Beach Street, which is popularly known as the central banking district.

PPHB hotel project manager Tony Koay says the group would spend RM15.8mil or RM400 per sq ft to restore the two heritage properties with fittings.

“One of the heritage commercial building with 11,000sq ft will be restored as part of the in-fill heritage hotel.

“The other heritage property with 28,632sq ft will be restored for commercial and office usage,” he says.

Koay says the advantage of carrying out infill development work for the heritage hotel project was that one could maximise the interior of the buildings to suit the needs of modern business usage.

The cost per sq ft to develop a heritage hotel from scratch with furnishings is about RM1,000 per sq ft, says Koay.

“A problem with restoring a heritage building for hotel usage is that the interior of such heritage buildings restricts the utilisation of space,” he says.

Koay adds that the in-fill heritage hotel would have over 150,000 sq ft of built-up area, 150 rooms, a business centre, meeting rooms, two-level of basement car-park, and retail shops on the ground floor.

“The architectural style for the hotel follows the design of late 19th and early 20th century port offices and warehouse buildings in George Town.

“We are targeting the upmarket tourists,” Koay says.

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Dishonest 90% failed campaign promises DAP, now disingenuously posing as hardworking. 46 million could be used to file a lawsuit against the Federal Governnment for :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

This restoration b.s. is just Business NGO work, or perhaps Architecture NGO work, and NOT Political party work. Whats a political party for? Fighting for human rights and equality, not pushing ‘restoration projects’ while clinging on to undemocratic nepotism or term limitlessness. Weak and undemocratic!

ARTICLE 18

Compelling ‘Malays’ to be Muslims: Why M’sians should support Nurul Izzah – written by  Gavin Khoo – Monday, 05 November 2012 07:22

Politicians are known to be chameleons and most of them would tailor make their statements according to their audience. Not for Nurul Izzah, an emerging force within the party, Parti Keadilan Rakyat, which was founded to fight against Anwar Ibrahim’s persecution.

At a forum on “Islamic State: Which version; Who’s responsibility?”, she was reported to have said “People should not be compelled to adopt a particular religion and this should also apply to Malays.”

“When you ask me, there is no compulsion in religion… how can anyone say sorry, this (religious freedom) only applies to non-Malays, it has to apply equally.” she said.

She was responding to a question from the floor on whether Malays should have religious freedom like non-Malays.

“Malay” is defined under Section 160(2) of the federal constitution as a person who professes Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language and conforms to Malay customs.

Ultimately, she said, what should be sought is “quality” where Muslims’ faith is strong.

“Even me, being schooled in Assunta (secondary school) with a huge cross in the hall and an active singing Catholic society did not influence me,” she said.

However, Nurul Izzah stopped short of saying that Malays should be legally granted religious freedom, saying: “I am, of course, tied to the prevailing views.”

The position she espouses is unprecedented especially when she is a Muslim and she needs the support of largely Muslim voters in her constituency. She is probably facing one of the toughest political fights in her short political life against a much more established candidate, a federal minister, who has much more resources than what she could have mustered before the next GE.

We need a leader a leader who speaks from her own conscience as a democrat and a proponent of universal human rights. She sees a bigger picture than most leaders who would adopt a narrow religious interpretation which can be manipulated for their own political benefit.

Nurul did not attempt any of these cheap political stunts. She speaks up as a democrat, a true Muslim who holds firmly to her faith and a leader who reaches out to soothe the fear of her fellow Muslims against an often manipulated sense of inferiority and threats against their faith.

For this, Straight Talk would like to urge voters in her constituency, Lembah Pantai, to return her moderate voice and outstanding leadership to the 13th Malaysian Parliament.

If you would like to make contribution to her campaign fund:

Acc. Name: Ahli Parlimen Lembah Pantai

A/C No: 564128345008Maybank – Bangsar Baru

http://www.nurulizzah.com

-http://khookaypeng.blogspot.com

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NLP Warning about the title first – Though  the writers may claim bad grammar : Compelling ‘Malays’ to be Muslims: Why M’sians should support Nurul Izzah makes the title of the article an NLP intended to sound like Malaysians should support Nurul BECAUSE of Compulsions of ‘Malays’ (one more NLP here, Malays in quotes can be misread to mean those considered by not actually Malays – subverted minorities perhaps?) to be Muslims.

Otherwise a spot of good news and a slight shift to actual moderation, though structurally and policy wise, still nothing here. Statements hold no water. Laws being changed,  and constitutional amendments forwarded for ratification at Parliament at very least do. ‘Congrats’ (being sarcastic) at FINALLY reaching UFO/Bigfoot sighting level.  Thats 33.3% and still a fail, though at least 1 PKR person bothered to apply for the exam (made a press statement) but didn’t turn up (no attempt to formalise in law/constitutional amendment) . . . whats the MP seat for? Making statements only? Is Nurul just a blogger or a media outlet and with NLP’s considered is Gavin and Khoo in cahoots with Nurul for more Islamic agendas or inmtentionally trying to demonise Nurul with misrepresentation via NLP titles?

Article 18 of the UN Human Rights charter for the Malays, and Article 1  of the UN Human Rights charter for the minorites, 3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75) MEANS Bumiputra Special Privileges ENDS . . . not empty talk. Also, nepotism issues still loom, but there will be plenty of time for that later. 2 term limits, and at 23K a month, thats 540K in 2 years! Let someone earn a living at that seat why don’t you or lower that salary to no more than 3 times annual average wage for Malaysia (around 3-4K a mont) . . . then GTFO after 2 terms, so do whatever is worth doing before 3rd force sweeps the back and forth out of the Dewan! This was responded to with Jamil Khir’s racist rant in below link.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/jamil-khir-dangerous-to-espouse-freedom-of-creed

ARTICLE 19

Not a 3rd Forcer after all?

More Article 16 type inability to differentiate AGAIN. Equality is not inconceivable. But those who do not gove others their spaces are unconscionable a create a culture of strife. The above Youtube vid is correct to a point but does some form of ‘lumping’ as well.

Equality is not inconceivable. But those who do not gove others their spaces via legal rights (do not disenfranchise minorities) are unconscionable and create a culture of strife. The above Youtube vid is correct to a point but does some form of ‘lumping’ as well, as not all Muslims will tolerate the lack of :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

;with righteous Muslims fighting for the right to apostasy as well as all the entertainments and proclivities every single minority in the world can want represented and given spaces in law.

ARTICLE 20
Arrested youth’s family fear Johor palace interference, urge cops to help – by Clara Chooi, Assistant News Editor – November 04, 2012

Ahmad Abd Jalil is being investigated over allegedly seditious remarks he had made against the Johor Sultan on his Facebook page. – Reuters pic
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 4 — The family members of Ahmad Abd Jalil, who was arrested on Friday for insulting the Johor Sultan, is pleading with the police not to permit the palace authorities to haul the youth to the royal house for an apology.

The family, responding to talks that Ahmad may be brought personally before the Sultan to apologise for his remarks, expressed fear today over the safety of the 27-year-old if he were to be taken to the palace.

According to an SMS from Ahmad’s sister to one of the family’s lawyer late last night, the police had told her mother that, “if the palace calls, they (the police) would be forced to bring Ahmad to face the Sultan”.

“If they want my son to apologise, bring him to court. Once he enters someone else’s territory, anything can happen and we wouldn’t know who to blame,” Ahmad’s father Abd Jalil Abd Rahman told The Malaysian Insider today.

“Everyone has to respect the due process of the law. And if they want to take my son to court to extract an apology, then so be it.

“Do not force him into palace custody where we have no control over. We are Penangites. We are not used to having a Sultan and we have heard many horror stories. This is our right,” he added.

The 60-year-old former government servant said the police have so far refused all attempts by his family to visit Ahmad, who was arrested in Kuala Lumpur at 8pm on Friday and transferred into the Johor police custody the same night.

As at noon today, Abd Jalil said he will be meeting with the investigating officer in Ahmad’s case.

“We hope to have a positive outcome from the meeting… I just want to see my son,” he said, adding that if it would look bad on the police if they were to forbid him from doing so.

In an SMS to The Malaysian Insider, Ahmad’s older brother agreed with his father in saying that the youth must be kept safely away from the palace compound.

“It is wrong to extract him from the balai/lokap to anywhere. We an apologise but thru proper procedures. Ahmad will apologise openly at court.

“Otherwise, we condone that the system is being used as ‘mode of ugutan (threat)’,” he said in the text message.

Ahmad is being investigated under Section 4(1) of the Sedition Act 1948, believed to be over allegedly seditious remarks he had made against the Johor Sultan on his Facebook page.

He was picked up from his office at around 8pm in Cheras yesterday by several plainclothes policemen before he was brought to the Wangsa Maju police station for questioning.

According to Ahmad’s lawyer Mohd Zakwan Adenan yesterday, the youth was at first not informed of his offence, except that he was allegedly being investigated under the Sedition Act 1948.

“They said they wanted to charge him under the Sedition Act for remarks he made on Facebook but when we asked the police which statement they were referring to, they could not answer,” he said.

Section 4(1) stipulates that any person who utters, prints or publishes any seditious words, on conviction, would be liable for a first offence to a fine not exceeding RM5,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years or to both.

After interrogating him for several hours at the Wangsa Maju police station yesterday, the police raided Ahmad’s parents’ house in Damansara Damai before taking the youth with them to Johor.

At 3pm yesterday, Ahmad was taken before a Johor magistrate by the police to obtain a three-day remand order.

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The reverse could be said of having the case in Penang and the more urban areas of Malaysia, where the animosity towards all Sultans (who due to tacit approval pf Bumiputra Apartheid contributes in substantial measure to this sort of disafffection, or in some uncommon cases heavy monopoly like involvement in business sectors . . .) could be intentionally used to dismiss the case intentionally to make a salient point about apartheid (minorities) or absolutism (non/anti-royalist Malays) rather than to administer justice which in this case should be an equitable apology to the the measure of insult offered on the social networking site.

Malaysian judges and the legal system in Malaysia are not impartial, and always are politically motivated rather than professionalism or justice motivated, as much as the Bar Council does not address the lack of :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

;for the Bar Council’s own political or financial (contract) based profit. I had written on the apartheid issue to every individual Sultan before and had no response whatsoever. Perhaps the letters were intercepted as so many other communications might have been. And due this, or simply crypto-racism, if not authoritarianism on the part of the palace officials if not the post service’s racists or lapdogs,  I received no response on the matter whatsoever, as any civil society might have and issues like the above continue to mar relations between the intended as symbolic rulers and and the masses. Stature and privilege should be enough to even ignore this sort of insult, the palace certainly has the resources to unofficially argue back without getting directly involved but from the looks of this sandiwara which might well have ulterior motives of sounding out the populace’s less well written (also less well read) to identify those who are against the palace, which has chosen to get directly involved instead.

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25 Articles on Malaysian Politics – Practise What Islam Preaches, Race Riot Leader Kit Siang Threatens Hishamuddin With Communists and Religious Fundamentalists, Vexatious DAP Harrasses Hanif Panel, People’s Parliament Regresses Into T-Shirt Sales, RPK Angling (Noun and Adjective) For A Bodek Based Return to Malaysia?, PM Spins More (Truth and Lie Can’t Be Told Apart Under BN), PAS’s Redeeming Side (Compensating for Hudud But Does Set Precedents), How Can Breastfeeding Be More Important than Ending Apartheid? (Women Make For Biology Centered Politicians), The Worst ‘Athenians’ In the World Politically Prostitute Themselves With No Regard for Truth, Tay’s Floudering Articles That Never Address Apartheid Again, 1 State out of 14 : Selangor takes 1 Tiny Step Against Apartheid, Tunku’s Vantage : Exposing The Ugly (undemocratic and nepotistic) DAP of Pakatan Coalition, Holier Than ‘Diu’, BN or PR is Lying (So whats new? Try 3rd Force . . . ), Meaningless Sandiwara Insults That Do Not Change Anything for the Rakyat, The Rakyat Do Not Care Which Intern Lim Guan Eng ‘Lewinskis’ (End Apartheid or GTFO of Dewan!), Bar Council Flounders But Files No Lawsuits, Pot Calls Kettle Black, RPK and Anwar Discriminate Against LGBT, RPK’s ‘Old Person’ Authoritarianism Evident, Environmental Concerns : Cyanide and Gold Mining On Peninsular Malaysia?, Green Shirts?, Low Tech Methods Best For Keeping Tabs On Voting – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree

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ARTICLE 1

What is Ramadan? — Muhammad Nazreen – July 21, 2012

JULY 21 — Recently, I read an article by Tariq Ramadhan entitled “What Ramadan teaches us”. It poses a very significant subject for us to contemplate. Does Ramadan empower Muslims to be respected in that sense of “holier than thou”? From the very beginning, we have failed to conceive that Ramadan is a pride of humility. From the pride of humility then comes faith. And Ramadan paves a magnanimous way for us to revamp our faith. Ramadan is not as a simple as abstaining ourselves from food and drinks. It teaches us to appreciate the value of humanity and to uphold dignity of man.

Ramadan should be respected as a commemoration of social struggles. As a month of fasting, Ramadan gives us insights on how to celebrate the marginalised, becomes a voice to the voiceless and a champion to the oppressed. These are the essences of the holy month of Ramadan. It is a journey of the mind that was predetermined by God to embrace commonalities between the privileged and the needy. By of all means, humanity is a true path to seek divine love. Without humanity, Ramadan is meaningless. Ramadan excites everyone of us to attain the profound command of spirituality as said by Mahatma Gandhi: “I learned from Husayn how to be wronged and be a winner, I learn from Husayn how to attain victory while being oppressed”.

Ramadan unveils vast meanings for us to share. First, the tradition of fasting is prescribed in many religions before and after Islam. Yet, the practices might be diversified but they entail the same meaning — virtue of wisdom. It compels every single of us to renegade the values of tolerance between us. It attributes ample evidence to transcend religious boundaries and brings a vivid and concise explanation of what religions should be respected. Of all differences, we resemble common things in embracing diversity as a universal norm.

Ramadan has created a stream consciousness for us to rethink the system. For instance, consumerism becomes a major hindrance for the development of the marginalised poor. So, Ramadan gives us chances to impose a radical structure on how we look at our society. Did we manage to capture the context of Ramadan? It juxtaposes us to sober up on how the poor are mistreated by the inequalities of the economic system. During this fasting month, we are encouraged to give more and get less. Perhaps, this might be an implicit message that we can learn from Ramadan. As economic repercussions loom everywhere, and capitalism marks its end, Ramadan bears a benevolent claim from society that we need a philanthropic nation.

Ramadan is a privilege for all of us to reaffirm our faith and belief, and disdain for our corrupted state of mind from overwhelming our conscience. It is proved in the verse below that the beauty of Ramadan is an authoritative consideration that was given by God to utilise our own reasoning. And Ramadan has never been an excuse for us to demand respect from others but it is how we build our own respect towards them. As the Quran speaks:

“The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Quran, a guidance for mankind and clear proofs for the guidance and the criterion (between right and wrong). So whoever of you sights (the crescent on the first night of) the month (of Ramadan), he must fast that month, and whoever is ill or on a journey, the same number (of days which one did not fast must be made up) from other days. Allah intends for you ease, and He does not want to make things difficult for you. (He wants that you) must complete the same number (of days), and that you must magnify Allah for having guided you so that you may be grateful to Him” (2: 185).

As the verse speaks, it clearly intends an egalitarian manner irrespective of identity and race. It bolsters feasible attempts to exert a strong understanding of its purpose to contrive the future challenges of modernity. As what Tariq Ramadhan said: “Human beings must undertake the fast in a spirit of seeking nearness to the Unique, of equality and nobility among their fellows, women and men alike, and in solidarity with the downtrodden. The core of life thus rediscovered is this: to return to our hearts, to reform ourselves in the light of what is essential, and celebrate life in solidarity.” And this might help us to redefine what is Ramadan.

* This is the personal opinion of the writer or publication and does not necessarily represent the views of The Malaysian Insider.

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And yet the writer may espouse low minded apartheid. Speak for :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

;to assuage doubts on the high mindedness of Islam. Speak clearly and then stand for election on the above if a sincere Muslim and a world citizen not intending to control non-Muslims by placing Islam above all other religions.

ARTICLE 2

Kit Siang asks why Hisham not aware of JI, communism threats – by Clara Chooi – July 21, 2012

KUALA LUMPUR, July 21 — DAP’s Lim Kit Siang today labelled Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein the “lousiest” Home Minister in history for claiming ignorance when the police Special Branch unit had alleged of communist and terrorist elements in Pakatan Rakyat (PR).

The Ipoh Timor MP asked Hishammuddin how he could have been kept out of the loop of such information when the unit comes under the direct purview of his ministry.

“It is the most cowardly, craven and irresponsible response from Hishammuddin… Is Hishammuddin admitting he is the lousiest Home Minister in the nation’s 54-year history?” Lim (picture) said in a statement here.

Hishammuddin was quoted in the media yesterday as saying that he was unsure if Jemaah Islamiah (JI) terrorists and former communists have infiltrated PR parties PAS and DAP as claimed Special Branch chief assistant director of the E2(M) national social extremist threat division Mohd Sofian Md Makinuddin on Thursday.

“I’ve not received any information so far, so I cannot say if it’s true and that’s all I can say for now.

“Because information below the radar is very sensitive and may come from international agencies, which we cannot share with the public until it is verified,” he was quoted as saying by national news agency Bernama.

Lim asked if the minister would have issued a similar response and claim ignorance if Mohd Sofian had made similar allegations against Barisan Nasional (BN) component parties like UMNO, MCA or MIC.

“Of course not!” the veteran politician said.

He reminded that apart from claiming of JI and communist elements in PR, Mohd Sofian had also told the media on Thursday that he has given some 300 talks exposing alleged security risks presented by PR parties.

“Imagine a Home Minister who does not know what his top Special  Branch officer had been doing in public talks for some two years?” Lim pointed out.

He added, however, it was highly unlikely that Mohd Sofian had acted independently when going public with his claims for this would then mean that the latter had committed a breach of civil discipline.

Lim said Mohd Sofian should be sacked from the Special Branch if he had not obtained clearance from his superiors in the government before issuing such press statements like “an unguided missile”.

PR lawmakers have since denied Mohd Sofian’s claim, saying the allegation was likely aimed at negating BN’s chances in the coming polls.

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Ingenuous pretences by creating (indirectly threatening) with non-existent threat means that Kit Siang who revelled in the 1969 riots is intending some seditious action. Being a participant of the last riots and an MP, and related and likely funded by PAP (which is why DAP MPs cannot declare assets – PAP also being likely a Communist sympathiser of some sort, though playing the US side for fools as well), Kit Siang needs to be taken in for questioning for raising and instigating violent Communists. I believe that Hishamuddin (doubtless with access to neurotech access) who knows what threats are in Malaysia, will want to find out what Kit Siang is talking about.

Just to remind all Malaysians though. Cuba, South Africa, China and Russia ARE Communist states although peaceful and semi-peaceful ones. Would BN’s MCA and Gerakan like to initiate better relations between mainland and Malaysian Chinese by the opening of CPCC clubs and PLA youth camps in Malaysia?

Multipolar World Order – Because hegemony of uncontrolled Capitalism results in wealth backed fundos, plutocrats and term limitless oligarchs and nepotists that destroy democracy.

ARTICLE 3

Hanif panel failed to ask: Who ordered the violence or did the police lose control – BERSIH – Written by  Bersih 2.0 – Thursday, 19 July 2012 14:55

The Coalition for Clean and Fair Elections 2.0 (BERSIH 2.0) views the recent statements by former chief of police Tun Hanif Omar in which he termed the allegations of police brutality as “unprofessional” as a weak response in the face of numerous eyewitness accounts of violence from the authorities during the 28 April peaceful assembly.

Hanif said that Kuala Lumpur Chief Police Officer Datuk Mohmad Salleh, who was observing through monitors in the Bukit Aman control centre, saw police handling the protesters in an unprofessional manner but does not acknowledge the brutal and excessive force used by the police as depicted in the medical reports of some protestors.

He also said that the police officers on duty had not been given specific instructions or SOPs on how to deal with the media and that the panel was trying to get the police to declare whether they received the three United Nations guidelines on treatment of the media and handling of crowds, among others.

Hanif should realise that the police surely receive their instructions from those higher up; thus, the IGP and Home Minister are also responsible.

Not merely about SOPs: Who is RESPONSIBLE for the violence

The response from IGP Tan Sri Ismail Omar that SOPs for police handling of the media would be issued “soon” fails to concretely address the concerns of the public and international community who witnessed many instances of violence directed at the media during the gathering.

On Hanif’s renewed call for the BERSIH 2.0 steering committee to meet with his panel, BERSIH 2.0 reiterates its objections to the panel itself as well as to Hanif’s appointment as its chairman and will not engage with it due to the biasness and composition of the investigative panel.

We also wish to remind the authorities that the unanswered question still remains – who is responsible for the untold violence upon participants of the peaceful assembly that occurred after the first tear gas was fired?

Peaceful protesters were beaten repeatedly

As depicted in the on-going public inquiry by Suhakam, evidence based on medical reports of some who were detained by the police appears to show that some members of the police force were out to punish those who wore BERSIH 3.0 t-shirts, anti-Lynas t-shirts or any yellow t-shirts, by inflicting excessive and completely unjustified violence on them.

Some detainees were attacked at the time of arrest, when they were in shops dining, or about to board LRTs while others were attacked after arrest and despite the absence of struggle. Some were alleged to have been assaulted by over 30 police personnel. Many speak of having to “run the gauntlet” of police personnel and beaten repeatedly before being loaded onto police trucks.

Vengeance: Who gave the order or did the police lose control

The brutality suggests that a segment of the police force on duty that day had acted with vengeance against BERSIH 3.0 participants whether due to orders given to them or because they had lost control. There are too many reports of police officers who were wearing blue police uniforms but without their names and police identity numbers so as to prevent the victims of violence from identifying the perpetrators of police violence. This cannot be taken lightly by those in power.

In addition to BERSIH 3.0 participants, it must not be forgotten that more than 12 photographers and journalists were assaulted, intimidated or detained by police while reporting the rally, and cameras, memory cards and video equipment were taken away.

People are fed up with the government’s lip service

As such, it is disappointing to see the Home Minister merely repeating the government’s stance that the panel’s findings of police violence only supported the Government’s position on the need to have mass gatherings in a controlled environment such as a stadium. BERSIH 2.0 remains firm that those in power must remember their first duty is to protect the constitutional freedom of citizens to assemble peacefully.

Thus, BERSIH 2.0 wishes to repeat its call for the establishment of an independent police commission such as the Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission (IPCMC) to investigate any allegations of police misconduct and violence in a manner that is credible and fair in the eyes of the Malaysian public.

Anything less than this will not be acceptable for a public that has grown weary of lip service and the people will not hesitate to make this clear during the next elections.

Keluar Mengundi, Lawan Penipuan!

Salam Bersih!

BERSIH 2.0 Steering Committee

Coalition for Clean and Fair Elections (BERSIH 2.0)

The Steering Committee of BERSIH 2.0 comprises:

Dato’ Ambiga Sreenevasan (Co-Chairperson), Datuk A. Samad Said (Co-Chairperson), Ahmad Shukri Abdul Razab, Andrew Khoo, Arul Prakkash, Arumugam K., Awang Abdillah (Kuching), Dominic Hii (Sibu), Dr Farouk Musa, Hishamuddin Rias, Liau Kok Fah, Mark Bujang (Miri), Maria Chin Abdullah, Niloh Ason (Kuching), Richard Y W Yeoh, Dr Subramaniam Pillay, Dato’ Dr Toh Kin Woon, Dr Wong Chin Huat, Dato’ Yeo Yang Poh and Zaid Kamaruddin.

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The questions are irrelevant and cannot be answered. Why is BERSIH not challenging apartheid but disturbing the public like this? Who ordered violence can only be interrogated from rioters (who would be better off as private candidates instead of following BERSIH around like lost goats) and the police who were present. The Hanif panel cannot ask questions which cannot be answered here. BERSIH is being vexatious and pro-opposition, the whole strawman method has the stench of PR all over it. Is that all BERSIH can do? Antagonise the Hanif panel instead of engaging them? But not field a single candidate? BERSIH has hijacked :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

;to become a self promotionary exercise that led by smiling crocodiles that accept apartheid and extreme religion. BERSIH IMHO as suspected, is more and more a STRAWMAN out to get innocent and brave Malaysians (who would be better off running AGAINST BOTH BN and PR as indie candidates) to expose themselves to possibility of injury and arrest in violent rallies led by strawmen NGOs.

Run for candidacy instead as private candidates for MP or Assemblymen instead. Ambiga was the one who killed Nizar’s MBship in Perak when Ambiga was Bar Council President, Samad who knows is a front for racism posing as a BERSIH person (note that Samad has yet to directly condemn apartheid or forced religion and say anything against any big timers on so many other money related crony enrichment related issues).

All this while they smile and slither avoiding the above 3 issues on the back of real efforts of real activists. Stop rallying with BERSIH and run for election or pool resources to field candidates INDEPENDENT of and not associated with listed strawmen who do not even want to run for MP or Assemblymen below :

Dato’ Ambiga Sreenevasan (Co-Chairperson), Datuk A. Samad Said (Co-Chairperson), Ahmad Shukri Abdul Razab, Andrew Khoo, Arul Prakkash, Arumugam K., Awang Abdillah (Kuching), Dominic Hii (Sibu), Dr Farouk Musa, Hishamuddin Rias, Liau Kok Fah, Mark Bujang (Miri), Maria Chin Abdullah, Niloh Ason (Kuching), Richard Y W Yeoh, Dr Subramaniam Pillay, Dato’ Dr Toh Kin Woon, Dr Wong Chin Huat, Dato’ Yeo Yang Poh and Zaid Kamaruddin.

The Rakyat can do without the above false flaggers and Hanif has shown enough patience with DAP’s self serving nonsense politics, term limitless and undemocratic nepotism . . . though Hanif is no saint for certain, for Hanif has not addressed apartheid in any honest manner either BERSIH issues notwithstanding.

ARTICLE 4

Going fishing? Wanna land a haul? Wear an ABU T-shirt! – Posted on July 10, 2012

Flew back from Labuan yesterday wearing my Asalkan Bukan UMNO t-shirt. Got dirty looks from some, the thumbs up from others.

Landed at the LCCT, headed home and had to immediately send the car to the workshop.

Sigh!

Another bill on the way!

Had to cab it back to the office.

Still wearing the ABU t-shirt.

Ten minutes into the drive, the cabbie, a Malay, whose age I later found out to be 55, had to ask.

“Encik tak sokong UMNO, ke?”.

I threw back a question.

“Encik sokong UMNO?”.

Saya bukanlah penyokong UMNO, tapi saya takut dengan pembangkang. Takut kuasa jatuh kat tangan Cina”, he replied.

Decided to run by him a reply to a similar situation I faced after an ABU ceramah in Kuala Terengganu earlier this year.

“Awak setuju, tak, rasuah di negara in sudah sampai tahap kritikal?”, I asked.

“Ala, kalau pembangkang jadi kerajaan pun sama. Semua orang politik, kan.”, he shot back.

“Tapi yang berkuasa sekian lama ini UMNO / BN, kan? Yang berasuah hingga kekayaan negara terus lesap, dan harga barang naik sehingga hampir 50% rakyat hidup susah UMNO / BN, kan?”, I asked.

He remained silent.

I asked his age and if he had any grand daughters.

Told me his age and said he had 2 grand daughters.

I asked how old the youngest was.

9 years old, he told me.

I then asked him if he remembered Noor Suzaily Mokhtar.

He said he did not.

I asked him if he remembered the case of a young Malay girl almost 10 years ago who was raped and murdered in a bus by the driver in the morning.

“Ingat. Kejam betul pemandu tu”, he said. shaking his head.

“Pemandu tu Melayu, kan? Bukan Cina, bukan India, kan?”, I asked.

Again, he was silent.

“Ok, saya nak tanya abang. Kalau cucu abang nak hantar sekolah dengan bas sekolah, sekarang ada dua pilihan. Pemandu bas sekolah Melayu yang disyakki ada tabiat pegang-pegang dan sentuh gadis muda, dan seorang pemandu lagi Cina agama Buddha yang tidak ada tabiat ini. Abang pilih mana?”, I asked.

Again, silence, and then he said, “Ok, saya faham”.

Sudah 40 tahun UMNO liwat dan rogol orang Melayu tak cukup, ke? Tak nak  selamatkan cucu kita daripada dirogol dan diliwat UMNO lagi?”, I asked.

Silence.

“Orang Melayu di Kuantan merayu supaya kilang Lynas dihentikan. Kerajaan UMNO hiraukan, ke? Tahi UMNO di Penang siapa yang bersihkan? Kerajaan pimpinan Guan Eng, kan? Sampai bila abang nak terus diperangkapkan dengan politik kaum UMNO?”, I pressed.

“Encik bila nak ambil kereta dari bengkel?, he asked.

I was caught off guard by his question, and asked him why.

“Stesyen teksi tadi selalu ramai pemandu tunggu nak ambil penumpang. Encik singgah sembang dengan mereka, boleh? Mereka perlu dengar ini. Boleh?”, he explained.

I am having lunch with a group of them tomorrow.

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Other than trying to sound clever, playing with words and allegorisms not even near half a sophism, People’s Parliament looks set to be the biggest non-entity in Malaysia despite the ‘educated state’ of the people AND followers. If People’s Parliament does not field at least 10 candidates for all the resources  People’s Parliament has,  People’s Parliament is but a sad clown spouting nonsense on the sidelines instead of picking a constituency or few to run in. Over qualified (probably rote study) strawmen poseurs with money based degrees and Phds. trying to be intelligensia. Critical thought and serious minded people would be PLANNING to remove BN and PR by now.

People’s Parliament  however only has smart alec comments trying to sell t-shirts. The foreign street worker probably does more in sales of t-shirts and real effects on society. Who knows the story-article isn’t even real and just made up by People’s Parliament people trying to sell tshirts! Defunct despite the resources and networks and for mere pennies and somewhat ineffective Orwellian minded advertising. Not a candidate by GE13? Then at least 1 blogger might potentially well be more effective than this entire so-called People’s Parliament . . .

ARTICLE 5

Munafiq, munafiq, munafiq! – Wednesday, 18 July 2012 RPK

The three Umno personalities who led the charge against the Rulers were Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, Deputy Prime Minister Tun Abdul Ghafar Baba and Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim. Ghafar even said that criticising the Rulers is allowed and is not considered sedition. It only becomes sedition if you ask to abolish the Monarchy and turn Malaysia into a Republic. Other than that it is allowed and is not sedition.

NGOs lodge reports against trio over insult

(THE STAR) – Some 50 members from two non-governmental organisations here have lodged police reports against three people alleged to have insulted the Johor Ruler recently.

The members from the Islamic Welfare and Sermon Organisation of Malaysia (Pekida) and Bukit Naning Youth Association also staged a peaceful protest at three locations in Bukit Naning yesterday.

The protests, which began at about 2pm, were held at Dataran Air Hitam in Bukit Naning, in Air Hitam and along the Air Hitam-Yong Peng road.

The members then marched to the Bakri police station where three of their members lodged reports against blogger Syed Abdullah Syed Hussein Al-Attas, Ahmad Shukri Kamaruddin and Haziq Abdul Aziz.

A representative of the groups, Abdul Aziz Sharip, said Johoreans could not accept what the three had written in their blogs, Facebook and Twitter about Sultan Ibrahim Sultan Iskandar.

He said the authorities should impose deterrent penalties on them to prevent others from insulting and disrespecting the Malay Rulers.

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I feel bloody sick in the stomach when these Melayu haprak start foaming at the mouth and make police reports, organise demonstrations and ‘pledges of loyalty’ sessions, etc., in defense of the Monarchy.

It is not that I am anti-Monarchy. On the contrary, I am pro-Monarchy — although I believe that the Rulers should be subjected to criticism when they do wrong. It is just that I am anti-munafiq (hypocrites). And do we have so many munafiq amongst these Malays who are allegedly upholding Islam.

If they are really upholding Islam then they will know that the Rulers can be tegur. Tegur is the Malay culture of pointing out the mistakes that you make, which comes under the doctrine of amar makruf nahi munkar, a very important principle of Islam — in fact, mandatory for all Muslims.

I suggest these Malays go study the kitab of Imam Ghazali. Sheesh, they got the cheek to tell me not to talk about Islam because I am not learned enough about Islam to talk about it. It is they who are jahil (ignorant) about Islam, not me.

Of course, tegur does not mean you can insult the Rulers. Not only should you not insult the Rulers, you should not insult anyone for the matter, the Rulers included. Insulting is not tegur, which many Malaysians do not seem to understand, Malaysia Today readers not exempted.

Around 30 years or so ago, it is these same Malays from Umno who launched a campaign to run down the Rulers. The non-Malays knew better than to join the Ruler-bashing frenzy, though. The non-Malays knew that bashing the Rulers would invite a backlash. So the non-Malays very wisely stayed neutral, although the Gerakan President, Lim Keng Yaik, joined in the Ruler-bashing frenzy, complete with saliva spraying from his mouth as he lambasted the Sultan of Pahang.

The issue is: the Umno Malays were not trying to tegur the Rulers to point out the mistakes they were making. They were spinning lies about the Rulers. That is the issue I was opposed to. If it were a genuine tegur then I would not have minded. But they were spinning downright lies about the Rulers.

The three Umno personalities who led the charge against the Rulers were Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, Deputy Prime Minister Tun Abdul Ghafar Baba and Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim. Ghafar even said that criticising the Rulers is allowed and is not considered sedition. It only becomes sedition if you ask to abolish the Monarchy and turn Malaysia into a Republic. Other than that it is allowed and is not sedition.

That was what happened in the 1980s. It was a Ruler-bashing fiesta. And Umno said this is not a crime. It is not wrong to criticise the Rulers when they do wrong. This is what Umno said. But they did not criticise the Rulers. They spun lies about the Rulers. And they said that this is allowed, nothing wrong in that.

Munafiq, munafiq, munafiq!

The TV stations showed footages of a Chinese towkay’s house in Batu Feringgi in Penang and said that this was His Highness the Sultan of Selangor’s lavish bungalow (His Highness was the Raja Muda then), paid for with the taxpayers’ money.

Lies!

The TV stations showed footages of Rumah Kedah in Northam Road (now called Jalan Sultan Ahmad Shah) in Penang and said that this was His Highness the Sultan of Kedah’s lavish bungalow, paid for with the taxpayers’ money.

Lies!

Actually Rumah Kedah was an old run-down pre-war house (not at all lavish), which belonged to the (Umno-led) Kedah State Government for the use of the Kedah State Government officers who visit Penang.

Lim Keng Yaik, the Gerakan President, then went on TV to relate how ‘Tengku’ Wong and His Highness the Sultan of Pahang scammed hundreds of millions of Ringgit worth of timberland in the State of Pahang.

Lies!

‘Tengku’ Wong was actually the business partner of the Menteri Besar, Tun Mohd Khalil Yaakob, currently the Governor of Melaka.

What happened was that Khalil gave loads of timberland to ‘Tengku’ Wong and he told the Pahang State EXCO that ‘Tengku’ Wong was the Sultan’s business partner and that the Sultan had instructed the land to be given to him. Of course, no one in the EXCO dared oppose it or dared question the Sultan about it. Hundreds of millions was scammed in this manner and the slime-ball is now the Governor of Melaka as ‘punishment’ for what he did.

Ghafar then revealed that more than RM116 million worth of various ‘negotiated’ contracts meant for Bumiputeras were given to ‘Tengku’ Yong of Terengganu, the business partner of His Highness the late Sultan of Terengganu. RM116 million was about 30 years ago so imagine how much that is worth today.

The Menteri Besar of Terengganu, Dato’ Seri Amar Di Raja Tan Sri Haji Wan Mokhtar Ahmad (S.S.M.T., P.S.M., S.P.M.T., D.A., D.P.M.J., K.M.N., J.P., P.J.K.), then revealed that he had received a ‘Surat Kuning’ (‘Yellow Letter’) from the Palace instructing him to give these contracts to ‘Tengku’ Yong’s company and that ‘Tengku’ Yong was His Highness the Sultan’s business partner.

Lies!

‘Tengku’ Yong was actually Wan Mokhtar’s business partner. Then, when this matter ‘exploded’ and we from the Terengganu Malay Chambers of Commerce confronted Wan Mokhtar, he denied he had said he had received a ‘Surat Kuning’ from the Palace. He then accused us of spreading lies and that this was an opposition conspiracy to defame him. After that, those who confronted him were targeted for ‘assassination’ and Umno told me to get out of Terengganu and go back to Selangor. (Yes, 30 years ago back in the 1980s I was already on Umno’s ‘death list’).

Then Anwar Ibrahim accused His Highness the Sultan of Kelantan of stealing a Lamborghini from the Customs warehouse in Subang and of importing cars without paying tax.

Lies!

Actually, Rulers have a quota of seven tax-free cars, while Raja Mudas have three, and His Highness the Sultan of Kelantan was still within his quota. Anwar then said that the Conference of Rulers had not approved his Highness the Sultan’s quota. Another lie. The quotas have nothing to do with the Conference of Rulers. The State Government approves these quotas and the State of Kelantan was then under Umno. Hence Umno had approved His Highness the Sultan of Kelantan’s quota.

See how they spun all these lies 30 years ago back in the 1980s? And the few cases I mentioned above are just the tip of the iceberg. There were many more cases. And they were all lies meant to make the Rulers look bad.

And do you know what? Because of these lies they spun about the Sultan of Kelantan, the voters of Kelantan took the side of the Sultan and in 1990 the Kelantanese voted for PAS-Semangat 46 and kicked Umno out. Until today Umno can’t take back Kelantan, and I hope they never will. I hope the people of Kelantan will remember what Umno did to their Sultan.

Hidup PAS!

And that is why most of the Rulers do not support Pakatan Rakyat, in particular PKR. The Rulers have never forgotten or forgiven Anwar and those ex-Umno people in PKR who went on a Ruler-bashing orgy 30 years ago. The Rulers do not trust Anwar and those Melayu from PKR who were once in Umno and who dragged the Rulers through the mud.

The Rulers have no issue with PAS, though. DAP did not whack the Rulers, no doubt. But they stood aside and enjoyed seeing Umno whack the Rulers. Hence, although DAP can claim to have stayed ‘neutral’, they did not protest the lies being spun about the Rulers. But PAS stood by the Rulers. Thus the Sultan told the voters to kick out Umno and give Kelantan to PAS.

So can we stop all this nonsense? Today, these Melayu are pretending to be defending the Rulers. Actually they were the ones who introduced the culture of lying about the Rulers. As I said, tegur is okay. That is the Islamic thing to do. But lying is certainly not on, not only for Islam but also for any religion for that matter. And these are all a bunch of lying hypocrites who should be shot.

Hidup Raja!

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Hidup PAS? Hidup Raja?

If in context, no problem. If taken out of context, and knowing what RPK is like, I’d say RPK was tacitly approving Hudud-Fundamentalism AND increasingly-looking-like Crypto-Apartheid in the last 2 ‘hidups’. Good info on all the monstruous nepotists, term limitless oligarchs, and racists but once again, RPK’s duplicity stinks of crypto-racism no end. Munafiq is supporting a political party that wants to implement limb hacking for stealing.

And if not for the way PAS is run, we might as well be talking to the Japanese gangster Yakuza who at worst (and even no longer practicing) only took the little finger at most, Hudud is extreme though any who are brainwashed enough to put on an explosive suicide belt would not think much of limb hacking, the mindset of Hudud is akin to terrorism, and Allah is supposed to be merciful, whats so merciful about removing people’s limbs or depending on terror to ensure good behaviour in society? This must come from one’s own voilition , not by fear of limbs being hacked off. Macabre though probably bloodthirsty enough for the Vampire/Zombie fan set. And RPK tacitly endorses PAS? Please don’t go ‘hidup’ without considering the implications and undue encouragement to people who are already incapable of introspection of their bloodthirsty natures . . .

ARTICLE 6

Malaysia owes development to ‘promises fulfilled’, says Najib – by Mohd Farhan Darwis – July 17, 2012

Najib proclaims “Merdeka” seven times as a symbolic nod to the upcoming independence celebrations.

KUALA LUMPUR, July 17 — Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak today said that the development now enjoyed by Malaysia is due to the Barisan Nasional (BN) government fulfilling its promises to Malaysians.

Najib said the BN government was also behind the country’s transformation from an agriculture-based economy to an industrial-based one with the aim of progressing towards a high-income, developed status.

“We are developed and successful because the government has kept its promises to the rakyat throughout its 55 years of rule.

“We promised a united country. We guaranteed transformation from agriculture to a country of industry, and now that of a developed high-income country,” said Najib in a speech at the launch of the “Kibar Jalur Gemilang” event in conjunction with Merdeka Day celebrations.

Despite the opposition’s claims that this year’s Merdeka theme smacked of political motives, Najib said the “Fulfilled Promises” theme was chosen as the BN government he helms had succeeded in delivering all its promises to Malaysians.

BN had also used the same slogan in its nationwide Fulfilled Promises Tour by focusing on the contributions and assistance extended to Malaysians.

“We made many promises to the rakyat, BR1M, Menu Rakyat 1 Malaysia, including the already-launched 1 Malaysia Textiles Store, and more,” he said as he officiated the programme held in conjunction with August 31 independence celebrations in Little India in Brickfields, an Indian-majority area.

Besides Brickfields, the programme will also be held at two locations important to the other two major races, namely Malay stronghold Kampung Baru and China Town on Jalan Petaling, a predominantly Chinese area.

“Under the 1 Malaysia banner, we need a single platform for all races. We have proved this, including for the Indian community. We have shown that most of the Indian community’s problems have been addressed.

“We will continue this fight, and what we find important for Indians and other races will be upheld by the government, “ said the prime minister.

On ending his speech, Najib loudly proclaimed “Merdeka” seven times as a symbolic nod to the upcoming independence celebrations.

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The promise to review Bumiputra Malays Special Privileges in 1972 was not kept 15 years from 1957 as per the Reid Commission. Development was only due to colonial legacies and infrastructure. Malaysia has fallen behind most of ASEAN. Apartheid is for LIARS who do not keep promises. Malaysia owes development to unaware export markets, NOT ‘promises fulfilled’, promises of BN (especially Reid Commission end of Bumiputra APARTHEID Privileges) have been left unkept instead.

ARTICLE 7

Migrant worker gets eight months’ jail for molest – July 16, 2012

KUALA LUMPUR, July 16 — A Pakistani security guard was jailed eight months by the magistrate’s court here today, on two counts of molesting a 55-year-old housewife last month.

Atif Shahzad, 29, was jailed six months on the first charge and eight months on the second charge for the offences committed at the highway project site at Blok 13, Flat Sri Johor, Cheras here between 9.50pm and 10.10pm on June 28, this year.

Magistrate Erry Shahriman Nor Aripin ordered the sentences to run concurrently from the date of arrest on June 29.

Atif Shahzad, however, claimed trial to a third similar charge on the victim at the same place, date and time.

The case was fixed for August 1 for mention.

S. Malini Anne was deputy public prosecutor while the accused was unrepresented.

In another court, a karaoke centre manager claimed trial to molesting an underage female student.

A. Alexender, 28, is accused of committing the offence on the 16-year-old at the Karaoke Song Box centre at Wangsa Walk Mall, Seksyen 5, Wangsa Maju, Sentul here at 4.30pm on May 30.

He also claimed trial to putting a 16-year-old boy in fear of injury when extorting him into surrendering his identity card and mobile phone at the same place, date and time.

Magistrate Parvin Hameedah Natchiar set August 13 for mention and allowed him bail of RM5,000 in one surety, with a restraining order against approaching the complainant. — Bernama

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The taxpayers do not need this burden on the prison contractor system. The police should get the molested woman to slap the worker in front of the police station (for purposes of embarrassing the molesting worker back) and then send all parties packing. The court need not even involve itself, the people should not even pay months of prison to enrich the ‘Prison-Contractor/Supplier Complex’. The worker molests the woman. Woman slaps the worker back. End of story. The boss or foreman at the construction site could even administer the justice here though preferably with police oversight. WHY should the Rakyat pay for the magistrate court hearing, or the prison system with their taxes for what foreign workers do which could be corrected with the above suggestion in a few minutes, old Western ‘Sheriff’ style???

ARTICLE 8

Opaque tender awards scaring away foreign investors, says PAS man – July 15, 2012

KUALA LUMPUR, July 15 — Putrajaya’s less-than-transparent system of awarding contracts for mega public projects appears to be putting off foreign firms from investing in Malaysia more than any street rally within the country could, PAS MP Dzulkefly Ahmad has warned.

The opposition lawmaker noted that international engineering firms were tempted by Malaysia’s burgeoning railway infrastructure projects worth up to RM160 billion that are up for grabs as announced recently by the Land Transport Commission but decided to hold back due to the deepening controversy over the nearly RM1 billion tender for light-rail transit (LRT) expansion works in the capital city.

“The case of the Ampang-LRT is now unfolding and the allegation that Najib and the MoF (Ministry of Finance) have a hand into this matter is now under serious scrutiny by all.

“Not the least is by the international bidders who have spent millions [of ringgit] to be partaking in what was earlier thought as a level-playing field for all,” Dzulkefly (picture) said in a statement to The Malaysian Insider this week.

The Kuala Selangor MP was referring to allegations that Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak, who is also finance minister, had interfered in the tender and awarded the lucrative contract to a consortium of engineering companies led by local firm George Kent, one of three bidders that failed both the technical and commercial evaluations for the RM960 million contract.

The government was to announce the winning bid for the project last month but has delayed doing so.

Sources told The Malaysian Insider that only five of the eight bidders passed the technical and commercial evaluation stage but project owner SPNB finally recommended one of the two South Korean consortiums in the running — PDA Consortium — as the other consortiums were said to not have complied with all conditions.

“There are a lot more dealings shrouded in mystery than meet the eyes,” Dzulkefly, who heads PAS’ research unit, said.

He noted speculation was also rife that the contract for another LRT expansion project, on the Kelana Jaya line, will be given to a less-qualified company, bucking state-owned Syarikat Prasarana Nasional Bhd’s (SPNB) decision to award it to the Ingress-Balfour Beatty consortium, being the lowest bidder and the most technically-skilled.

SPNB is the government agency overseeing the rail projects.

“It is this and not Bersih or anti-Lynas (groups) that are chasing away foreign direct investments,” Dzulkefly was quoted as saying by his party’s paper, Harakah, in a similar report today.

Malaysia, which is seeking to break out of the middle-income trap and leap into the ranks of high-income economies, is targeting a foreign direct investment (FDI) of RM33 billion this year.

The Najib administration has gone on the offensive against several domestic movements including electoral reform lobbyist Bersih and a grassroots group Save Malaysia Stop Lynas (SMSL) that are seen by pro-establishment groups as jeopardising Malaysia’s draw as an investment hub.

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There is no open tender at all. BN is putting on a show so that Malaysia may appear democratic instead of crony led. BN is a disgrace where ethics or open economy is concerned. We might as well be in Soviet Era Russia where contracts were GIVEN instead of tendered for. There is NO OPEN TENDER in Malaysia, only crony GLCs and bad politics and bad laws on the back of Hudud and APARTHEID. Malaysia is a total failure but has adopted all the democratic trappings that are staged to con foreign investors into thinking well of Malaysia. There is no open tender at all! Just fronting to tale your deposits and generate some air traffic! PAS’s great flaw of Hudud cannot be balanced by ethics and prevention of nepotism though the latter 2 are very difficult to foster in all but the best secular parties. Still PAS does set an example, even as PAS fails completely on apartheid and fundamentalism issues. PR’s hegelian dialectic alongside BN! Vote 3rd Force!

ARTICLE 9

So how about a room where mums can breastfeed babies? – July 15, 2012

JULY 15 — These days where I shop is dictated by where the nearest nursing room is located. And lucky me, there seems to be a boom in baby-friendly businesses in town.

This city may not seem to welcome babies and it doesn’t on most counts. I leave my stroller at home because pavements are far too narrow and clogged with pedestrians. Loud noises and bright lights startle at every turn, as if to say NO BABIES ALLOWED.

Fluffy clouds and soft lighting make for a cosy nursing experience at Tiny Footprints.
I occasionally nurse out in the open and while I tend to go unnoticed, I often feel some try too hard to NOT look. Plus as baby gets older and more curious about its surroundings, incidents of accidental exposure increase. And before you say “nursing cover”, it is summer time and way too hot to be underneath one, even if it has a wired neckline to allow air to circulate.

These are reasons why I now sniff out nursing rooms like a hound.

When I nursed my older child four years ago, it was any Starbucks or Pacific Coffee, but at $30 (RM12) a pop and other patrons sharing my table, I would sometimes seek out the privacy of a bathroom stall which was far from ideal.

This time around, with baby number two, I am happy to report that the situation has improved.

Newer shopping malls usually have one dedicated nursing room per floor. Malls developed by MTR Corporation tend to be more family-friendly so one can expect a decent nursing room.

The facility in the Elements mall in Kowloon has a five-star hotel feel to it, with an open section for nappy changing and a cushioned bench as well as a separate room for breastfeeding. The bench is perfect for dads who wish to bottle feed their babies while affording other mums to breastfeed in privacy in the adjacent room. My only gripe was that it was freezing in there.

I’ve also checked out the facility at the Queen Mary Hospital (public hospital) and while sparse, ticks the boxes for comfort and privacy. It is located on the ground floor and anyone can walk in to use it.

Perhaps striking the perfect balance are the two latest baby boutiques on the scene, Baby Central in Aberdeen and Tiny Footprints in Central.

These boutiques have carved out the most charming and cosy nursing nooks within their store’s premises, ensuring mums who pop by to shop can also have a rest and feed bubs.

Baby Central’s Katherine Regan has noticed that Hong Kong retailers are becoming more aware of their customers’ needs and as such an increasing number of nursing rooms are being made available across the city.

Regan, a mother of two, found it virtually impossible to find a comfortable nursing room.

Sharing her experience, she said: “A few shopping malls now provide nursing rooms but they are quite basic and inside the toilets so it’s not the nicest experience. Others are just simply so small that you can feel claustrophobic. I used the hotels if I needed to breastfeed!”

Like Regan, Tiny Footprints owner Caroline Williams found it difficult to find a place to feed her daughter, unlike in Australia where she is originally from.

Naturally, this experience came in handy when conceptualising Tiny Footprints. “We pretty much built the store around the concept of somewhere quiet to feed in the heart of central, and tried to make a sanctuary for parents to relax and pick up essentials at the same time,” she said.

A separate area to change and wait, perfect for hands-on dads and a private nursing rooms (right) at the Elements mall.
Although there are new shopping malls popping up all the time (and hopefully with better nursing rooms) in Hong Kong, the problem is they tend to have only one nursing room per floor at best. Now what would happen on a weekend when families descend upon malls?

One mother found out the hard way when she found a long queue to use the nursing room. “On average each mum would take 15 minutes. If there are 10 mums ahead of me, my hungry baby would have to wait 150 minutes to be fed!”

When she did get into a room, there would always be someone banging the door, asking her to hurry up. She very quickly gave up using these rooms, opting instead to feed under a nursing cover.

“The people who design these facilities have to understand that babies can’t wait in line. Build more cubicles,” she suggested citing nursing rooms in Singapore malls that feature a row of cubicles.

La Leche League leader Therese Tee is all for new mothers using nursing rooms to gain confidence to breastfeed but stresses that nursing in public is legal in Hong Kong.

“At the end of the day, the more normal breastfeeding is perceived, meaning more mothers doing it and especially in public, the more ‘normal’ it becomes and if everyone is accustomed to seeing it, mothers may not feel like they need to run into a nursing room,” she said.

For nursing mums planning a trip to Hong Kong, view a list (http://chattybrain.com/index.php/hong-kong/changing-nursing-breastfeeding-facilities/) of the best nursing rooms in HK voted by Chatty Brains Hong Kong. (http://www.fhs.gov.hk/english/files/reports/babycare.pdf).
The Hong Kong International Airport website (http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/passenger/arrival/t1/airport-services-facilities/nursing-room.html) lists 32 nursery rooms equipped with changing and feeding facilities.

Basic baby care facilities are also available at government buildings. See here (http://www.fhs.gov.hk/english/files/reports/babycare.pdf).
Suggestions for a cosier nursing room experience, by Katherine Regan:1. It’s difficult feeding a baby on a hard plastic chair. Provide a comfortable armchair.

2. Keep the nursing room separate from the toilet. Keep them clean as well. There should be baby nappy change facilities in the same room and a basin for mum to wash her hands. A proper nappy bin should be provided to keep bad odours at bay.

3. Soft lighting instead of harsh bright light. Walls painted a soft pastel colour instead of bright white. Small things make a big difference.

* The views expressed here are the personal opinion of the columnist.

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Ask for end of APARTHEID first then for breast feeding rooms. Women can be so short sighted and Human Rights unaware at times. (Hey Bloomberg, this one of yours?)

ARTICLE 10

Statement by Nicole Tan Lee Koon, Secretary of DAP Seremban Branch – LETTERS/SURAT – Sunday, 15 July 2012 Super Admin

Nicole Tan Lee Koon ???, Secretary of DAP Seremban Branch is saddened and disappointed  that a Chinese leader like Chua Soi Lek (CSL)  has shown contempt for the Malaysian voters’ democratic right to scrutinise leaders through open debates. Only in a Third-World-Malaysia can public debates and thus public scrutiny be ignored, denied and suppressed, especially before the general elections. By Athenian principles and John F. Kennedy’s standards, CSL has committed a crime !

CSL recently made statements on 8th of July, 2012 in The Star (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/7/8/nation/20120708165703&sec=nation) and 11th of July, 2012 in Mysinchew and Bernama (http://www.mysinchew.com/node/75317) and The Star (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/7/10/nation/20120710190053&sec=nation), respectively that he will not be debating Lim Guan Eng (LGE) again as it is “a waste of time” and that Najib need not debate with Anwar as “he is a proven leader”. CSL can only get away with these kind of utterances if he thinks Malaysians have Third World mentality like him.

Open debate is a platform for the Malaysian voters to judge whether the candidates are electable. John F. Kennedy quoted “No president should fear public scrutiny of his program, for from that scrutiny comes understanding, and from that understanding comes support or opposition; and both are necessary…  Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country can succeed, and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian law makers once decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy”. Hence, CSL has shown contempt for the Malaysian voters’ democratic right to scrutinise leaders through open debates.

Elections of governments or wakil rakyats are part of  a country’s democratic process. To be a leader or Chief Executive Officer of a company one needs to have the proper qualifications and track record. Basically, a good Curriculum Vitae. What more to be a leader of a country? Hence, leaders/potential leaders need to be put under public scrutiny in terms of qualifications and track record.

Gone are the days of leader-centricism where the rakyats are supposed to be grateful to the leaders and follow the leaders blindly. Now, we need people-centric leaders, i.e leaders who are willing to be subjected to public scrutiny. Just look at the current Presidential Debates between Mitt Romney and Obama. It is opined that Najib as the PM of Malaysia (albeit without a mandate) should open himself to public scrutiny by debating with Anwar. Election is about trust and allowing the Rakyat to vote for the best candidate in terms of their character, knowledge and past deeds. By debating, we can judge whether they can articulate their policies well or not. The downside of an open debate is that ghosts of the past may come to haunt the debaters i.e their past misdeeds may come back to haunt them of which they do not have the answers. All the skeletons in their cupboard will be exposed and they have nowhere to hide. For example, CSL was dumbfounded when confronted by the questions about Nazri calling MCA “the battered wives” and the privatization of the Penang port.

CSL and Najib’s denial and suppression of open debates and public scrutiny will cause the Malaysian voters to speculate that they fear the raising of scandalous issues like Mongolia, Altantuya, Scorpene, PKFZ, Teoh Beng Hock, Ahmad Sarbani, Kugan, etc. Similarly, in Negeri Sembilan, the failure of Dr Yeow Chai Thiam to openly debate with Anthony Loke will raise much speculations that he fear the raising of embarrassing issues of his past record as the wakil rakyat in the Jimah constituency. Like the JE disaster; more than 100 people’s death; destruction of all pigs farms; termination of pig rearing activities; the JE trust funds and MCA Humanitarian Funds; repeated failure of election promises to reinstate pig farming; the failed integrated pig rearing centre; the plight of the pig farmers cum investors; and the location of Bukit Nanas near Bukit Pelandok as the sole national Toxic Waste Management Centre. The only way to avoid the unchallenged conclusions is for Dr Yeow willingly and happily, to  openly debate Anthony Loke without making silly and stupid excuses and conditions.

13th of July, 2012 (Friday)

Nicole Tan Lee Koon

Secretary of DAP Seremban Branch

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Shame on Nicole, and honest Malaysians are full of disgust for Nicole, I hope more incapable Malaysians like Nicole will not come out and sabotage the real 3rd Force leaders. The Rakyat is no longer so easily conned by DAP’s failed promises and lies of mouthpieces like Nicole Tan! RPK what is this LIAR doing on your website?

By Athenian principles and John F. Kennedy’s standards AND the failure of DAP to keep campaign promises, DAP and the term limitless family blocs in DAP have committed a crime ! Political activists have been compltely side lined, their ideas stolen, laws left unamended and a string of abuse of power instances typifies DAP. DO NOT support DAP, Malaysia voters! DAP also intends Hudud and TERM LIMITLESS feudal fiefs in government so long as the retain power – they sacrifice the minorities for PAS’s Hudud!

DAP has not kept almost 90% of campaign promises, refused to amend laws, shamelessly demanded in collusion with BN 750K in funeral funds, LIED about declarations of MP assets bait and switch style, lied about local council elections and placed DAP cronies as EXCO instead of quorum voted locals! This woman Nicole Tan fetting DAP is a political prostitute, who is betraying the Rakyat by speaking as if DAP has hounourably kept to the promises that won DAP the representation DAP has now that DAP has npt. DO NOT support DAP, Malaysia voters! Support 3rd Force which is made from the below coalition :

Proposed 3rd Force Coalition

ARTICLE 11

The road to inhumanity is paved with apathy — Tay Tian Yan – July 14, 2012

JULY 14 — The passerby showed up, telling the world what he saw on that day.

Why didn’t you offer a helping hand seeing the woman lying badly injured on the floor?

“I was afraid (that) if I moved a little closer, I would be seen as the culprit “

If you knew she was still alive, would you try to help?

“I didn’t have a cellphone with me, and there were no others around. No way I could help.”

Did you feel bad just walking away like that?

“No. I was really short of time then.”

The passerby’s answers portray his crude candidness and the astonishing indifference of our society.

Not offering a hand to avoid trouble and for fear of being misunderstood (as the killer snatch thief?).

Not offering a hand because of not knowing how to (not even how to shout “tolong,” or move the victim to the roadside, or use a public phone, or seek help from others, or slow down the hurried pace…).

Not feeling bad for ignoring the dying woman because of one’s own tight schedule (which is more important than another individual’s life).

If things have gone this far, what else can we say?

Perhaps it is not just that passerby who would think this way, or pretend not to see the urgent need to save a life, or not feel bad for not trying to help…

We don’t have to point all our fingers at that passerby (and that’s why his identity has been withheld here), as there are many others who will act the same way.

Given such cultural background, doing a good deed and saving a stranger’s life could be compromised and even obliterated if the same does not do us any good at all.

As if that is not enough, it doesn’t even have any moral implication and has absolutely nothing to do with our conscience, not anything that requires us to bow down our heads when walking in a public street and yet still affords us a peaceful sleep at night.

So then why should anyone offer a hand to help? Rightly so, but if we should allow humanity to be brought down to such pathetic levels at the expanse of personal interests, this society of ours is no longer “human.”

I believe the genes of benevolence and righteousness do have a place in human nature, which would mobilise us to help. That said, the overpowering selfishness and utilitarianism in our society have altered and distorted the value system of many.

Our society should be one that inspires people to do good and help.

We don’t need to act like Batman, though, putting on a mask while doing justice.

But if we live in Batman’s Gotham City, caring only about our own business and not appreciating what Batman has done, there wouldn’t be any who is keen to take on Batman’s role. — mysinchew.com

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Stand against apartheid with a clear voice if you can Tay. From what I remember, Tay has been unable to even speak against apartheid, much less help the dying. The simple stuff first remember?

ARTICLE 12

Politicians, not police, ‘damaging’ country, says ex-top cop – by Amin Iskandar – July 14, 2012

Musa said he had commissioned a third party to review crime statistics during his tenure as IGP.—File pic
KUALA LUMPUR, July 14 ? In the face of public fears over security, Tan Sri Musa Hassan turned the heat on politicians whom he said were damaging the country by unfairly accusing police intelligence of spying on citizens instead of fighting crime.

The former Inspector-General of Police (IGP) refuted PKR president Datuk Seri Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail’s allegation last week that the police Special Branch (SB) was spending more effort to spy on the public than combating crime, which she based on parliamentary papers from two years back showing the unit had used its manpower to produce reports on the activities of more than 700,000 Malaysians.

“The police keep the peace and security of all and whoever takes care of national security, he has to monitor.

“That means monitoring has to be done not only on criminals but also on politicians who want to damage the country, and (those who) are always damaging the country are politicians,” the 60-year-old told The Malaysian Insider in an interview this week.

Musa, who spent 41 years in the force and retired as its top policeman in 2010, has been credited with capturing Mas Selamat Kastari, one of the region’s most wanted terrorists, who escaped Singapore’s maximum security Whitley Detention Centre in 2008 and remained at large for over a year until May 2009.

But Musa’s record has also been blemished by allegations of conspiring with the Attorney-General and fabricating evidence over PKR de facto chief Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s “black eye” incident in 1998 when the latter was sacked as deputy prime minister on twin charges of corruption and sodomy.

He has filed a defamation suit against Anwar, which is fixed to be heard on October 16.

The retired policeman stepped into the spotlight again this week and urged the federal government not to mask crime figures, as pressure over a recent spate of high-profile reports of kidnappings, assaults and robberies in public areas and in broad daylight have put the home minister, the current IGP Tan Sri Ismail Omar and the government’s efficiency unit, Pemandu, on the defensive.

Musa pointed out that if crime were not on the rise, top-ranking officials and ministers would not need to hire bodyguards.

The ex-policeman had also suggested the government appoint a third party to conduct an independent review of the country’s crime rate and produce its own statistics, saying that he had roped in Universiti Sains Malaysia researchers to prepare crime statistics during his four years in office as IGP.

Last week, PKR had demanded the government redirect the SB towards fighting crime instead of spying on the public, telling a press conference on July 3 that the police intelligence unit had produced 382,000 reports on the political activities of Malaysian citizens and conducted 351,000 security clearance checks in 2010, based on the allocation for the force in Budget 2012.

The former IGP said politicians are not immune from the law, whether they are from the ruling party or the opposition.

“Her allegation is not right. Police monitor everything including politicians,” he said.

“If (the politician) does something that threatens national security, then we (the police) must act.

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Arrest all APARTHEID and TERM LIMITLESS and NEPOTISTIC politicians at once!

ARTICLE 13

Now in Selangor, ALL races can buy PKNS properties with 7% discount – Written by  Maria Begum, Malaysia Chronicle – Friday, 13 July 2012 09:47

Mentri Besar Khalid Ibrahim and Pakatan Rakyat lawmakers have tabled a landmark motion allowing the Selangor Economic Development Corporation or PKNS to open up a 7% special discount reserved for Bumiputera to all races born in Selangor, who wished to buy homes built by the state-owned property developer.

According to a Bernama report on Thursday, Speaker Teng Chang Kim had announced the motion received majority support at the Selangor state assembly, where the Pakatan holds 33 seats, compared to the 20 held by Prime Minister Najib Razak’s BN coalition.

The motion was submitted by DAP assemblyman for Kota Alam Shah M Manoharan and supported by Lau Weng San, the DAP MP for Kampung Tunku, at the Selangor state assembly.

Malaysia Chronicle

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Better than nothing but this is NOT the same as :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

Gratuituous lying, limitless terms and self praise here only shows how lame and 3rd world Malaysia is.

ARTICLE 14

Blame and hate politics widely practised in DAP, says Tunku Abdul Aziz – Sunday, 08 July 2012 Super Admin

(The Star) – Former DAP vice-chairman Tunku Abdul Aziz Tunku Ibrahim has described the party’s politics as that of “blame and hate”.

He said his dramatic departure from politics had made him see clearly the futility of his trying to accommodate people whose values he was uncomfortable with.

“Taking a break from the politics of blame and hate was undoubtedly the best decision I ever made. I realised within two months of becoming a card-carrying party member that I had thrown in my lot with the wrong crowd,” he wrote in his weekly column in the New Straits Times.

“I felt a sense of blessed relief. I found myself released at last from the tyranny of DAP’s unfettered hypocrisy,” wrote Tunku Abdul Aziz.

Tunku Abdul Aziz wrote that he must have been “both absolutely mad and arrogant” to think that he could make “an impression on DAP’s thinly-disguised Chinese chauvinism.”

He said that after observing the party in all its subtleties for almost four years, there was little doubt over the party’s real interests.

“Malay voters have few misgivings about voting for MCA but they are not too sanguine about their future at the hands of what they see as a repressive and, in spite of noisy protestations to the contrary, an undemocratic party,” he wrote.

He said DAP could not be regarded as a multi-racial party as yet and urged Malays to be cautious of the party until it truly changes its outlook.

He said the Malays in the party were merely tools for DAP to push forth its sham multi-racial identity.

“DAP is a party caught in a time capsule and for all its public utterances, it cannot by any stretch of imagination be regarded as a multiracial party. The reality is that the role of top Malays in particular is purely intended to lend credence and legitimacy to its multiracial pretensions,” he added.

Tunku Abdul Aziz also narrated how DAP had tried to woo a prince into the party by promising to make him (the prince) a mentri besar.

However, he said he told the party the plan was a non-starter as the prince’s father was the Ruler of the state.

Apparently the party approached him directly and offered a federal post instead, which the prince declined.

Tunku Abdul Aziz described the episode “a shallow diabolical DAP plot at its best.”

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Lead the proposed 3rd Force Tunku Abdul Aziz, for the below 3 items. BN and PR are hopeless and littered with bad politics and bad politicians . . .

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

ARTICLE 15

May 13 WON’T HAPPEN AGAIN, 3rd Force proponent and CM of the REAL ISSUE (of ENDING APARTHEID) slams ‘low-class, irresponsible’ Kit Siang – Written by @AgreeToDisagree – Saturday, 21 July 2012 12:53

I challenge the DAP Term Limitless Oligarch and Nepotist Lim Kit Siang to prove he is a responsible political leader and Malaysian nationalist when raising the spectre of May 13 wanting to prevent any recurrence and not indulging in the low- class, irresponsible, unscrupulous and contemptible double politics of fear and race to preserve DAP / Pakatan Rakyat in power at all costs in the next general election.

It has been reported that at a national youth conference held in Parliament yesterday, Muhyiddin called on the young generation to be united in order to ensure the country remains stable and peaceful and to avoid a repeat of the May 13, 1969 trageedy.

Muhyiddin was quoted as declaring at the conference: “We don’t want May 13 repeated.”

3rd Force will do all it can to prevent recurrence

On behalf of 3rd Force, let me officially respond by declaring that we in 3rd Force do not want a repeat of the May 13 tragedy by DAP’s hand and we pledge to do all we can to prevent any such recurrence.

3rd Force offer to co-operate and work closely with UMNO and Barisan Nasional to ensure that there will be no repeat of May 13 in the next general election, and Malaysians are entitled to ask how there could be a repeat of the May 13 tragedy if both political coalitions – Barisan Nasional and 3rd Force – sincerely pledge to work together in the national interest to prevent any such recurrence?

I confess I am concerned at the way Lim Kit Siang raised the spectre of May 13, which had been used in the past decades to create fear among voters as part of the scare tactics to force voters to vote for UMNO and BN, as it raises the question whether the DAP Term Limitless Oligarch was giving an assurance that there would be no May 13 recurrence or he was subtly threatening that there could be another May 13 if DAP loses power!

Could there be another May 13 in the next general election? My answer would be a strong NO.

Without going into the debate as to who should be held responsible for the May 13 tragedy in 1969 (and there are diametrically conflicting accounts and versions of who should be held responsible and this is why right from the beginning after the May 13 riots, 3rd Force and I had called for an independent Royal Commission of Inquiry into its causes) the circumstances today are completely different from those prevailing 43 years ago in 1969.

The most important difference between 1969 and the 13th general election is the emergence of a multiracial multireligious naional coalition represented throughout the country to peacefully and democratically challenge DAP/Pakatan’s hold to power in Opposition State – as the 3rd Force coalition of KITA, JATI, MCLM (whats left of MCLM), PCM, Borneo Front, Konsensus Bebas, HRP/Hindraf and PSM, ABU, PRS, STAR etc.. is a Malaysian coalition of all races, religions and regions in Malaysia unlike Christian-DAP or Hudud-PAS ore racist BN!

Only the most irrespnsible, anti-national and treacherous elements in our country can try to distort and misinterpret a 3rd Force victory in the 13GE as victory of one race against another, as to justify wild thoughts tinkering with the idea of anther May 13, when any victory for 3rd Force will be a Malaysian victory representing all races.

Is Lim Kit Siang sincere when he declared “We don’t want May 13 repeated”.

If so, the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak should break his silence and answer the question I had posed to him many times in the past three years – whether he would declare clearly and unequivocally that he would accept the verdict of the people in the 13GE, including the election of a 3rd Force government in ALL Pakatan Rakyat held states to replace the Pakatan Rakyat and that he would personally ensure and facilitate a peaceful transition of federal power for the first time in the nation’s history, to tell the world that Malaysia has becoome a normal democracy and even en route to become, in Najib’s own words, “the best demoracy in the world”!

Marah is the 3rd Force adviser & CM (of the REAL ISSUE of ENDING APARTHEID) . Let the voteres remove TERM LIMITLESS Nepotists and pro-APARTHEID racists and lapdogs by voting 3rd Force!

ARTICLE 16

LOW-COST housing: Teng refutes Guan Eng’s claim – Saturday, 21 July 2012 15:11

PROOF- State BN chief shows memo on building houses for the poor on 1.97ha in Jalan Burmah

NIBONG TEBAL- THE state Barisan Nasional has hit back at Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng over his claim that the previous administration did not make provision for low-cost housing to be built on the prime land at Taman Manggis in Jalan Burma, George Town.

Its chairman, Teng Chang Yeow, yesterday produced a copy of a 2003 memo from the then director of Housing and Local Government of the state secretary’s office to the then State Secretary to back his claim.

Teng said according to the memo, the initial plan was to build two blocks of People’s Housing Project (PPR) on a 1.97ha plot of land located at the junction of Jalan Zainal Abidin-Lorong Selamat in Jalan Burmah.

However, Teng said based on a standardised plan that was similarly adopted by the Federal Government, only one 18-storey block of flats could be built then, while the remaining plot of land was to be kept for future development.

“Based on the memo, the architect concerned had recommended that a 16-storey additional block could be built on the remaining piece,” Teng told reporters at former Bukit Tambun assemblyman Lai Chew Hock’s office in Simpang Ampat here yesterday.

He added that the matter was further discussed by the then Housing Committee in the state executive council on April 29, 2003 and June 24, 2003.

“The committee had subsequently agreed that a block of flats under the People’s Housing Project (PPR) with rental should be ideally developed there.

“So my original statement is true and I stand by it.”

Teng was commenting on Lim’s claim that that the previous administration had not made any provision for public housing to be built on the land which had since been sold to a private buyer by the DAP-led state government.

On Thursday, Lim alleged that the state BN’s claim was “completely untrue”. He was reported as saying: “The land was not reserved for public housing. Despite that, we have been looking at whether it can be used for affordable homes.”

Lim had claimed that his administration decided that the land was too small and not feasible for public housing and instead identified a 4.45ha site in Jalan S.P Chelliah to build affordable homes.

Teng had earlier said it was unbecoming for the current state government to scrap the original plan to build PPR homes at the site in favour of a 30-storey private medical specialist centre.

Teng said he had also discovered that the Penang Island Municipal Council (MPPP) had received a planning permission application for the construction of a 30-storey building on Lots 305, 306, 313 and 314 at the Jalan Zainal Abidin-Lorong Selamat junction, Section 16, George Town.

“I found this after running an online search on the council’s One Stop Centre. So my question now, is whether the state government is willing to scrap the plan to build the 30-storey building?

“If the same plot of land is deemed as not feasible to build a 18-storey block of affordable homes, then how could it accommodate the proposed 30-storey building?” he asked.

Teng said the the state and MPPP should stop twisting facts.

– New Straits Times

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Either Gerakan or DAP is a LIAR here.

ARTICLE 17

WHAT SAY YOU: Hisham shaping up to be the “lousiest” Home Minister ever – Written by  Lim Kit Siang – Sunday, 22 July 2012 08:47

It is the most cowardly, craven and irresponsible response from Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein who is proving to be the lousiest Home Minister in the nation’s history.

How can a responsible Home Minister claim ignorance when a top Special Branch officer could go public to make the most damning allegations against Federal opposition parties as claiming that Jemaah Islamiah (JI) terrorists and communists are infiltrating PAS and DAP respectively to stand as candidates in the next general election when there is no basis whatsoever?

All that Hishammuddin has got to say on the serious allegations by Special Branch’s assistant director of the E2 (M) national social extremist threat division head Mohd Sofian Md Makin is that he was “not sure” about the alleged infiltration of Islamist terrorists and communists into Pakatan Rakyat, that “I don’t have the relevant information at the present moment.Therefore, I cannot say whether it is true or not. I can only say this much, this topic is very sensitive.”

Would this be Hishammuddin’s response if Sofian had publicly alleged that terrorists and communists have infiltrated into UMNO, MCA, Gerakan, MIC, and the BN Sabah and Sarawak parties to stand as candidates in the next general election?

Of course not!

How can Sofian proceed without Hisham’s OK

Is it conceivable that a responsible and diligent Home Minister would not have been informed or his approval sought before a top Special Branch officer go off on a rampage against the Federal opposition and that he would be completely clueless what Sofian was saying?

Was Sofian acting unilaterally and arbitrarily without getting clearance from the Inspector-General of Police and the Home Minister to make the “political attacks” on the Pakatan Rakyat? If so, Sofian had not only committed a gross breach of civil service discipline, he is guilty of an anti-national act and should be suspended immediately from his Special Branch position before he could do more mischief!

No sane or sensible person would believe that Sofian was acting independently on his own bat, like an unguided missile.

Brainwashing the public

This is confirmed when Sofian told the press that he had given some 300 talks exposing the security risks represented by Pakatan Rakayat parties which he accused of being ” anti-government”.

This would mean Sofian had been poisoning and brainwashing the minds particularly of the students and the young generation of Malaysians with his lies, falsehoods and ridiculous conspiracy theories for may be two years assuming he gives a talk an average if once in three days.

Sofian is the archtypical example of a “national social extremist threat” his division iss supposed to be monitoring!

Imagine a Home Minister who does not know what his top Special Brabch officer had been doing in public talks for some two years?

Is Hishammuddin admitting he is the lousiest Home Minister in the nation’s 54-year history?

Lim Kit Siang is the DAP adviser & MP for Ipoh Timur

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2 terms up so moot point. But Lim Kit Siang is the LEAST democratic and porbably LOUSIEST MP in Malaysia’s history 1 year longer than Mubarak in power, more than a decade more than Mahathir, PLACED own son Lim Guan Eng as CM without vote or quorum, and DAP is full of family blocs to boot!

In comparison of ‘worsts’ Lim Kit Siang could be doing as much harm to the nation and corrupting potentially goodly, non-nepotistic and ethical 10s of 1000s of Chinese/Christian voters’ mindsets democratically with the nepotism and politics of expedience, setting a bad example by not keeping campaign promises, than Hishamuddin might have done with the occasional murderous outburst or general racism against the population of non-Bumis here in Malaysia! One subverts and corrupts, is undemocratic, term limitless and power mongering, the other a racist who has clamped down on all races including his own. Who is worse indeed!

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

Any who do not accept or promote the above are UNVOTABLE. So that makes BN and PR unvotable as compared to fresh and term limir respecting, non racist 3rd Force.

ARTICLE 18

TRUE COLORS OF TUNKU AZIZ: Be man enough, he tells Guan Eng – Saturday, 21 July 2012 15:16

BE MAN ENOUGH- If innocent, the Penang chief minister should deny the allegation

THE latest tittle-tattle to surface, intended to titillate the imagination of the public, has thrown Lim Guan Eng, the stroppy chief minister of Penang, completely off balance.

He is, despite his carefully cultivated air of bravado, thoroughly devastated by the innuendos and sniggering goings-on everywhere in Penang’s normally staid society.

I am told he has become a changed person. Obviously it does not take much to penetrate the chink in his armour.

This is evident from his savage reaction to even a perfectly innocent press enquiry about the sudden departure of his special officer from the dizzy heights of the inner sanctum of power and prestige at Komtar.

There was never really any suggestion, by the press, of impropriety on his part but the man with never a hair out of place seems uncharacteristically flustered.

The fact of the matter is that he has lost his cool: getting hot and bothered under the collar at the mention of Ng Phaik Kheng’s name. This behaviour, unfortunately, lends credence to the age-old saying, “there is no smoke without fire”.

These days, the chief minister of Penang lives in a pressure cooker environment. It is not from choice, naturally. This is not the sort of place that someone as supremely confident of his power and infallibility would opt to be.

He is, apparently, savvy enough to know that even as he is taking on all comers, he is falling into the very pit that he is so good at digging for his unwary political opponents or, for that matter, anyone who disagrees with him.

He is acutely aware of what is politically at stake. He knows the score.

The question now is whether Lim would have the courage and integrity to do as Datuk Seri Chua Soi Lek had done earlier. He took responsibility for his action. If Lim had not done what the rumours claim, then the Soi Lek ethical benchmark does not apply.

Life is unfair. We set impossibly high standards of behaviour for people occupying high elected political office that we would never dream of imposing on ourselves.

The reason for this is that the likes of Lim offer themselves as professionally and ethically suitable candidates to provide principled leadership.

Come to think of it, it is not an unreasonable expectation of the great unwashed and the chattering masses, like you and me. It is obvious where his duties lie.

It is about time that the highest elected political position reverted to the Penang-born and bred state chairman of the party.

It is ironic that Penang, which has produced thousands of talented men and women in every field, must depend on a politician who is part of a travelling family political circus.

Lim is generally credited with giving a new twist and a sharper edge to the ancient pastime of blame and hate, a black art form much in vogue within DAP, and at which he has become rather accomplished, with unlimited practice time from day one of succeeding the Gerakan-led administration.

The man’s natural propensity to adopt intransigent and provocative urban guerrilla tactics in dealing with the press has not endeared himself to them.

I notice that even the once sympathetic Chinese language papers have had enough of his belligerent, bullying behaviour. His familiar, “I will sue you if you print this” cuts no ice, no sir, not any more.

Lim says he puts great store by his CAT (Competency, Accountability and Transparency) governing principles and here is his chance to show that CAT is not a mere political slogan and that he intends to live as chief minister by the CAT principles of governance.

My advice to him is to be true to at least two of those principles that he has been hawking, namely, accountability and transparency.

I am told by a DAP insider that a highly placed leader has circulated to his central executive committee colleagues his view that it is better in all the circumstances for Lim to deny completely any involvement in the matter.

Lim, if you are totally innocent, by all means deny the press speculation but in the unlikely event you have had romantic links with the lady in question, admit it like an honourable man.

True leadership is about making hard choices when the natural temptation is to slink out through the tradesman’s entrance. A little undignified, I should think.

– New Straits Times

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End Apartheid or GTFO of Dewan! The Rakyat do not want to hear anymore stories about who’s f – – –  ing who! We have the best porn stars for that sort of thing, not the slack jawed f@99ots and their politico-hags!

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

Don’t encourage Lim Guan Eng or an endless back and forth by engaging in this sort of banter Tunku! Could someone from UMNO just bribe these Malaysian ‘Lewisnskis’ to do an expose so that LGE can be removed? Tedious funeral fund on back of taxpayers beneficiary of nepotism has not ended apartheid yet . . . Meanwhile Tunku Aziz could lead 3rd force and end the apartheid, who knows on the back of the above 3 items, the PM’s seat for Tunku could well be assured where all Malays including the well fed UMNO-putras with not a single need (they have everything), in the country are stricken with racism or indecision to modernise Malaysia by the 3 items . . . meanwhile also remind the Rakyat that MPs and CMs only have 2 terms and should GTFO of Dewan after that, not drag the country in meaningless back and forth discussing sex with interns at Dewan, female or male or inbetween . . . and all kinds of nonsense and low minded racism and corruption!

ARTICLE 19

Archaic Laws Will Not Lead To A Safer Society – Lim Chee Wee – Tuesday, 24 July 2012 16:46

The Malaysian Bar is dismayed by the increasing attempts to blame the rise in the crime rate (in the state of Selangor and elsewhere) on the release of those detained under the now-revoked Emergency (Public Order and Prevention of Crime) Ordinance 1969 (“EPOPCO”, popularly referred to as the “EO”).

In recent times serious questions have arisen about the efficacy of the EPOPCO. There have been numerous complaints of its abuse, including the use – or threat of use – of the EPOPCO by the police as a means of extorting money from innocent victims. Wrong people were incarcerated or made subject to restricted residence under the EPOPCO, while those who were actually involved in crime remained free and mobile. The fact that those detained under the EPOPCO were not required to be formally produced before the courts of this land helped facilitate this abuse. While the press sometimes referred to those detained under the EPOPCO as “criminals”, it must be remembered that none of them was ever convicted in a court of law. Even when those involved in crime were in fact detained, invariably these were “small fry”; the “big fish” continued to elude and evade being apprehended.

Thus the effort to attribute the worsening (perceived or real) current environment to the release of the EPOPCO detainees is without sure foundation. Those who perpetuate and repeat such views, without the support of any actual evidence, are acting irresponsibly.

The simple truth remains: crime prevention requires solid policing. The existence of the EPOPCO for over 42 years has meant that inadequate and incomplete investigative practices and policing procedures have become prevalent.

A poor workman blames his tools. The police should not seek the excuse that because an unjust and unfair law that allowed for detention without trial and restricted residence is no longer at their disposal, criminal activities are perceived to be on the increase. And that consequently, the only way to address this negative development is to bring back repressive laws and slow the pace of law reform.

The Malaysian Bar totally disagrees with this view. The Malaysian Bar urges the Honourable Prime Minister to stay the course in respect of the path of law reform that he has undertaken, and to continue to remove outdated and unjust laws, and repeal unfair and prejudicial provisions of the criminal statutes.

The rule of law, together with proper policing and transparent law enforcement agencies, are the best way to tackle the issue of crime. Rather than nostalgically harking back to a bygone era and archaic legislation, law enforcement officials should focus on better training, greater responsiveness, and higher professionalism to make our streets and neighbourhoods safer. The Government must provide the necessary resources in order for the police force to have all necessary and legitimate resources at its disposal to battle crime.

LIM CHEE WEE is President of the Malaysian Bar

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Keep talking and doing nothing like strawmen? What is the law for when even the Reid Commission’s Special Privileges are somehow neglected or un-usable by Bar Council to end the APARTHEID of Bumiputra with? Lee shouldn’t whine and protest as if Bar Council was an unknown armchair blogger without the funding or legal power to stand against any bad MPs from either BN or PR. File lawsuit backed by the UN or world law bodies to abolish EPOPCO, and also file lawsuits for :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

;or both President of the Bar Council and Bar Council Committee should step down for more proactive lawyers that will file the above lawsuits.

ARTICLE 20

WHAT SAY YOU: Hisham shaping up to be the “lousiest” Home Minister ever – Written by  Lim Kit Siang – Sunday, 22 July 2012 08:47

It is the most cowardly, craven and irresponsible response from Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein who is proving to be the lousiest Home Minister in the nation’s history.

How can a responsible Home Minister claim ignorance when a top Special Branch officer could go public to make the most damning allegations against Federal opposition parties as claiming that Jemaah Islamiah (JI) terrorists and communists are infiltrating PAS and DAP respectively to stand as candidates in the next general election when there is no basis whatsoever?

All that Hishammuddin has got to say on the serious allegations by Special Branch’s assistant director of the E2 (M) national social extremist threat division head Mohd Sofian Md Makin is that he was “not sure” about the alleged infiltration of Islamist terrorists and communists into Pakatan Rakyat, that “I don’t have the relevant information at the present moment.Therefore, I cannot say whether it is true or not. I can only say this much, this topic is very sensitive.”

Would this be Hishammuddin’s response if Sofian had publicly alleged that terrorists and communists have infiltrated into UMNO, MCA, Gerakan, MIC, and the BN Sabah and Sarawak parties to stand as candidates in the next general election?

Of course not!

How can Sofian proceed without Hisham’s OK

Is it conceivable that a responsible and diligent Home Minister would not have been informed or his approval sought before a top Special Branch officer go off on a rampage against the Federal opposition and that he would be completely clueless what Sofian was saying?

Was Sofian acting unilaterally and arbitrarily without getting clearance from the Inspector-General of Police and the Home Minister to make the “political attacks” on the Pakatan Rakyat? If so, Sofian had not only committed a gross breach of civil service discipline, he is guilty of an anti-national act and should be suspended immediately from his Special Branch position before he could do more mischief!

No sane or sensible person would believe that Sofian was acting independently on his own bat, like an unguided missile.

Brainwashing the public

This is confirmed when Sofian told the press that he had given some 300 talks exposing the security risks represented by Pakatan Rakayat parties which he accused of being ” anti-government”.

This would mean Sofian had been poisoning and brainwashing the minds particularly of the students and the young generation of Malaysians with his lies, falsehoods and ridiculous conspiracy theories for may be two years assuming he gives a talk an average if once in three days.

Sofian is the archtypical example of a “national social extremist threat” his division iss supposed to be monitoring!

Imagine a Home Minister who does not know what his top Special Brabch officer had been doing in public talks for some two years?

Is Hishammuddin admitting he is the lousiest Home Minister in the nation’s 54-year history?

Lim Kit Siang is the DAP adviser & MP for Ipoh Timur

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2 terms up almost 5 times over, so moot point talking as if 90% of the campaign promises were kept. Lim Kit Siang is the LEAST democratic and porbably LOUSIEST MP in Malaysia’s history being 1 year longer than Mubarak in power, more than a decade more than Mahathir, PLACED own son Lim Guan Eng as CM without vote or quorum, and DAP is full of family blocs to boot!

In comparison of ‘worsts’, Lim Kit Siang could be doing more harm to the nation and corrupting potentially goodly, non-nepotistic and ethical 10s of 1000s of Chinese/Christian voters’ mindsets democratically than Hishamuddin might have done with the occasional murderous outburst or general racism against the population of non-Bumis here in Malaysia! One subverts and corrupts, is undemocratic, term limitless and power mongering, the other a racist who has clamped down on all races including their own. Who is worse indeed!

ARTICLE 21

The 222 idiots we have in Parliament – NO HOLDS BARRED – Raja Petra Kamarudin – Sunday, 22 July 2012 Super Admin

Is Communism a threat to Malaysia’s security? If so then why are we still friends with China, Cuba, etc., and why can their citizens come to Malaysia and our citizens go to their country? Is this not a threat to our national security? If the answer is no then what is wrong if Malaysians become Communists? We are friends with Communist countries. We can go to Communist countries and they too come to Malaysia. So where is the danger?

Okay, maybe we do not have 222 idiots in Parliament. Maybe we have only 200 idiots in Parliament while the rest are not idiots. But that is bad enough. The fact that almost two-thirds of the Members of Parliament are from Barisan Nasional and the rest from Pakatan Rakyat means that the idiots come from both sides of the political divide.

And this is what concerns me — that the stupidity is not confined to just those from the government.

While it is the ‘duty’ of the opposition to oppose anything and everything that the government does and says, and while it is the ‘duty’ of the government to do the same concerning the opposition — at least as far as Malaysians politicians are concerned in their very narrow-minded way of looking at things — there should be certain things that they agree on when it concerns the good of the nation. However, in the case of Malaysia’s Parliament, this can never be.

And this is a great disservice to the Malaysian voters who sent these people to Parliament.

Let us take the matter of haram (that which is forbidden by Islam). It is haram for Muslims to drink liquor. In fact, the ruling of haram is not only regarding the drinking of liquor but also serving, buying, keeping, profiteering from, giving as presents, etc. In short, Muslims cannot be associated with liquor in any way, not just from drinking it.

Hence the State and Federal Religious Departments conduct raids to arrest Muslims who drink plus to arrest Muslims who work in establishments that serve/sell liquor. Not only you can’t drink but you can’t work in such places that deal in liquor as well.

Considering, according to the Federal Constitution of Malaysia, Islam is the religion of the Federation, and if this is the law, then I have no problems with that. Until such a time the Constitution is amended we shall have to live with that law, whether we consider that law a good law or a bad law. The law is the law, as they say. Of course, they also say that the law is an ass, but that would be another discussion for another time.

As I said, I have no problems with this if that is the law. But I do have problems with this when the law is applied to only the establishments owned/managed by non-Malays while the establishments owned/managed by Malays are exempted from this law.

For example, I have personally seen Malaysia’s national airlines, MAS, serving liquor to Muslims. And I saw this even during the month of Ramadhan when these Muslims are supposed to be fasting and should not be drinking water let alone liquor. And the MAS personnel who were serving these Muslim customers are Muslims as well.

So what do we have here? Muslims working in a Malay-managed and Malaysian government-owned airline serving Muslims liquor during the ‘holy’ month of Ramadhan. Is this double standard? What excuse can the government offer for the ‘exemption’ given to MAS that would never be given to a bar or pub owned by, say, a Chinese?

Can you see how confusing this is? And what are the 222 Members of Parliament doing about this? Nothing!

Next point. Malaysian Muslims are forbidden from following the Shia dogma. Many Malaysians who embraced Shi’ism have been arrested and sent for rehabilitation. It is a crime for a Malaysian Muslim to become a Shia.

But it is only a crime to become a Shia if you are a Malaysian. If you are a foreigner it is not a crime. Why is that? What is wrong with becoming a Shia? Is Shi’ism dangerous? Is it a deviant sect? If Shi’ism is forbidden then it should be a crime not only for Malaysians but also for everyone, non-Malaysians included.

I mean: Malaysia wants to ban gay entertainers from entering the country. If you are gay then you are not welcome to perform in Malaysia. A gay lifestyle is forbidden. Both the Malaysian Prime Minister and the Malaysian Opposition Leader agree on this (at least there is one thing that they agree on). So gays are not welcome in Malaysia as it ‘sends the wrong message’ to the Malaysian youth.

However, while gays are not welcome in Malaysia, Shias are not subjected to the same ban. We send Malaysian gays to prison. We send Malaysian Shias to prison. We ban foreigners who are gay. But we don’t ban foreigners who are Shia. This is the part that I do not understand.

Iran has an Embassy in Malaysia. Malaysia has an Embassy in Iran. Iranians who are Shias are allowed into Malaysia. Malaysians are allowed into Iran. But we arrest and jail Malaysians who become Shias. And we don’t arrest and jail Shias who are not Malaysians.

Can you see how confusing this is? And what are the 222 Members of Parliament doing about this? Nothing!

In May 1974, Tun Abdul Razak Hussein, who became Malaysia’s Second Prime Minister in September 1970, visited China. In December 1989, the Malaysian Government and the Communist Party of Malays (CPM) signed a Peace Treaty in Hat Yai, Thailand. Hence the ‘war’ (called ‘The Emergency’) officially ended.

In the past, Malaysians were forbidden from travelling to Israel, South Africa, Cuba, China and Russia. Now, Malaysians are only banned from travelling to Israel. South Africa, Cuba, China and Russia are now our friends. Only Israel is still our enemy.

But Cuba and China and still Communist. However, they are no longer our enemies. Tun Razak went to China in 1974 when the ‘war’ was still on. It was only 15 years later in 1989 that the ‘war’ officially ended.

Hence we became friends with China even while the ‘war’ was still on. But Communism was banned in Malaysia. However, we could become friends with Communist China even though we were still officially at war and even though China backed the ‘war’ and gave refuge or political asylum to the CPM leaders.

Then, 15 years later, a Peace Treaty was signed and hence ended the war. Malaysians can go to China and Chinese can come to Malaysia. Malaysia has an Embassy in China and China has an Embassy in Malaysia. But Communism is still banned in Malaysia until today.

Okay, so gays are enemies. Shias are enemies. Communists are enemies. And, in Malaysia, gays, Shias and Communists are arrested and jailed. But Iran and China are not enemies. Only Shias and Communists are.

Can you see how confusing this is? And what are the 222 Members of Parliament doing about this? Nothing!

Is Communism a threat to Malaysia’s security? If so then why are we still friends with China, Cuba, etc., and why can their citizens come to Malaysia and our citizens go to their country? Is this not a threat to our national security? If the answer is no then what is wrong if Malaysians become Communists? We are friends with Communist countries. We can go to Communist countries and they too come to Malaysia. So where is the danger?

The government makes it seem like Communism is only associated with the Malaysian Chinese or China. Actually there are many Communist countries or Communist governments/coalitions all over the world (China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, North Korea, Cyprus, Nepal, Brazil, Peru, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Syria, Ukraine, Uruguay, etc.). And we are friends with all of them.

And have a look at the picture below and see how many Malays are amongst the CPM leadership. The CPM is not a Chinese thing at all.

Abdullah CD third from left in a group photo with Chin Peng (centre) and members of the CPM’s 10th Regiment (from left) his wife Suriani, Rashid Maidin, Abu Samah Mohd Kassim, Ibrahim Chik and Abdullah Sudin.

It is time that we lifted the ban on Communism. Sure, the Communists were once our enemy and the ‘war’ in Malaysia took a heavy toll on members of Malaysia’s security forces/police plus on the civilian population. There were many victims of the The Emergency. But don’t forget, The Emergency was prolonged not just because of the CPM but also because of China and Vietnam who supported the CPM in their effort to topple the government. If we have forgiven China and Vietnam why is Communism still banned?

If the objection to unbanning Communism is because of the death and destruction that The Emergency brought to the country, then the Japanese too should be banned because the Japanese Occupation of Malaya brought more misery to the country compared to The Emergency. I can’t understand why the Japanese are not treated the same way that the Communists are. After all, did not the CPM help the British fight the Japanese during World War Two?

Can you see how confusing this is? And what are the 222 Members of Parliament doing about this? Nothing!

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Ex-police chief: Unfair to keep out Chin Peng

(Malaysiakini, 30 November 2009) – Communist Party of Malaya (CPM) leader Chin Peng, 85, has a right to return to Malaysia at least on a social visit, said former inspector-general of police Abdul Rahim Noor.

This, he said, is provided for in the Hatyai Peace Accord signed on Dec 2, 1989 between the CPM and Malaysian government to end some 40 years of communist insurgency.

“I go strictly by the spirit of the agreement. First of all, (it) covers all levels of CPM members from the bottom-most to the highest-most,” he said in an interview to mark the 20th anniversary of the treaty on Wednesday.

“If you consider Chin Peng as the highest leader in the hierarchy, then it covers (everyone from him) right to the bottom-most (personnel).”

Chin Peng, who real name is Ong Boon Hua, was born in Sitiawan, Perak, but now lives in southern Thailand. His recourse to the Malaysian courts to be allowed to return has failed, and the government has since reiterated that he is barred from doing so.

Abdul Rahim, 66, said the terms allow those born in then Malaya to return home if they chose to.

“But they had to give the government indication within 12 months from the date of the peace agreement, whether they (would) come back or not.

“Those who failed to do so, or (who) for some reason (felt) they didn’t want to come back (permanently), would still be allowed to come back any time on a social visit, but not for good to settle down in this country.

“I think it is on this basis of the agreement that a vast majority of them were allowed (to return), young and old.”

The peace treaty was signed by Chin Peng and Rashid Maidin (representing CPM) and Abdul Rahim and Megat Junid Megat Ayub (then deputy home minister) who represented the Malaysian government in Hatyai, Thailand.

Abdul Rahim expressed surprise at the government’s refusal of this right to Chin Peng, as well as the recent court decision to block his return.

“I don’t know if Ching Peng did apply to come back within the specified period of time – the 12 months effective from the time of the peace agreement.

“Assuming that he did not apply to come back within that period, based on the agreement he should (still) be allowed (in) on a social visit.”

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While informative on the whys of whats going on for some of us, RPK needs to read the UN Charter on LGBT rights and not tacitly endorse discrimination against this UN protected group. Old generation people (RPK is almost 70, don’t be fooled by that irreverence, RPK is not youth minded or oriented at all, looks more like cantankerousness . . . ) are so hateful. LGBTs mind their own business, here we have people like RPK (also Anwar who probably is ‘closeted’ but sacrifices LGBT for power madness) who probably indulged ‘something’ but pretends to be holier than thou and attack LGBT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation_and_gender_identity_at_the_United_Nations

The tone of this article by RPK does not comply with UN requirements against crypto-discrimination in articles like these. Old people are such biased and narrow trouble makers. No holds barred? More like ‘all held up’ and ‘all bars surrounding’ with RPK’s not too subtle propaganda.

ARTICLE 22

It’s not about your stand but which direction you are moving – NO HOLDS BARRED – Wednesday, 25 July 2012 Super Admin

Hence, as I said, this is not about your stand but which direction you are moving. Followers will ask you about your stand. Leaders will ask you about which direction you are moving. And the fact that many ask me about what my stand is rather than in which direction I am moving shows that most are followers and not leaders. And leaders are too busy moving to waste their time explaining to followers the difference between taking a stand and moving.

People have asked me about where I stand. That is a very old-fashioned way of thinking. You should no longer be asking me about my stand. This is not about where I stand but about in which direction I am moving.

Standing is unproductive. You go nowhere if you merely stand. You have to move. Only by moving will you get to where you want to go. Furthermore, if you merely stand while others are moving that would mean you are moving backwards.

It is not that you are literally moving backwards. You are actually not moving at all. But since others are moving while you are standing still, that would mean you are moving backwards in a figure of speech sort of way.

Hence don’t worry about my stand. It is which direction I am moving that matters. And I know in which direction I am moving although it may not be too clear to you.

Other than the direction you are moving, the speed at which you move also counts. Some people stay behind. Others just follow the herd and move with the crowd. Then there are those who move ahead of all the others.

If you trail behind then you are lagging behind all the others. You become a spectator of history. If you move with the herd then most likely you are moving in the same direction and at the same speed as the others. This is the normal tendency when you move with the herd. Others dictate the direction and speed, not you. You merely become part of history. However, if you are moving ahead of the others, then you determine the speed and direction. In short, you become the trendsetter. You make history.

Trendsetters are normally the leaders. They set the pace and direction. Those who move with the herd have no mind of their own. They just follow what others do. And, of course, those who trail behind are people with no future. They do not even follow the herd. They play safe. They will go in only when it is proven safe and most likely there would be nothing left for them.

People who ask you where you stand would usually be people without any pioneering spirit. They stick to what is familiar to them. And when they see you moving in a direction that is alien to them, they will ask you where you stand.

They ask you this because they cannot understand that you are not standing but are moving. But because they are standing and you are not — you are moving — they confuse this as you taking a different stand from them. They do not realise that you are not standing at all but are moving. Hence your move is interpreted as a different stand to theirs.

People live in comfort zones. And comfort zones are those that you know and are familiar with. Moving out of this comfort zones is, well, uncomforting, for these types of people. They prefer to stand still and remain in their perceived comfort zone. So when you move they regard this as taking a different stand to theirs. It does not click that moving does not translate to taking a different stand.

A stand is what you begin with. It is where you start. Let us take religion as one example. Every human being has a stand when it comes to religion. You start with two possible stands. One would be you have a religion. The other would be you have no religion.

If you have no religion then there are, again, two possible stands. One would be you do not believe in God. Then your stand would be you are an Atheist. The other would be you do believe in God (or at least in some sort of higher power). Then your stand would be you are an Agnostic.

If you do have a religion then there would be many possible stands. For Malays this would be broken down into two stands. One, you believe in Islam and are a Muslim. Two, you do not believe in Islam. That means you are not a Muslim but are a Jew, Christian, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, etc. (there are numerous choices).

These are all stands. That is what you start with. But then, stands alone are not enough.

Let me give you another example:

Say, your stand is you do believe in God. And, say, your stand is you do have a religion. Then, say, your stand is you believe in Islam. So where do you go from there? You cannot just stand still. You need to move in a certain direction.

If you do not move and instead just stand still then you will be a Muslim in name only. You will not be a practicing Muslim or a learned Muslim. You are a Muslim who just stands still.

Hence, while your stand is clear — you are a Muslim who believes in God — you need to move in a certain direction and at a certain speed to define your Islam. You not only learn and try to understand what your religion represents but you also learn and try to understand how you and your religion can fit in to society so that you and your religion become compatible and relevant to this day and age.

If you do not do this then you and your religious beliefs would be left behind. You take a stand and you just stand there. But the world is moving in a certain direction and at a certain speed. How do you are your religion keep up? Better still, how do you and your religion chart the direction and set the pace so that it is ahead of everything? That is the stuff that pioneers are made of.

It is the same with politics. You take a stand and your stand is you are either pro-government or pro-opposition. But that, again, is just the start. Thereafter you need to move. You need to decide on the direction and the pace that you move. You either just follow the others or you try to move ahead of the others.

Pioneers will never follow the herd. They chart new territories. And because of this those with herd mentality will imagine that you are actually taking a different stand to theirs. They can’t comprehend that this is not about stands. You are not standing. You are moving.

Hence, as I said, this is not about your stand but which direction you are moving. Followers will ask you about your stand. Leaders will ask you about which direction you are moving. And the fact that many ask me about what my stand is rather than in which direction I am moving shows that most are followers and not leaders. And leaders are too busy moving to waste their time explaining to followers the difference between taking a stand and moving.

You can enlighten enlightened people. You cannot enlighten people who do not see the light. Hence it is a waste of time trying to explain to people who take a stand but do not move that taking a stand is moving backwards when others are moving but you only take a stand.

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Hey old man, WHOS a leader? Who dares claim leadership over a democracy of equality (much like Bumiputras or Islamists claiming supremacy over other races?) 2 terms and GTFO. Everyone is a leader. Lets remove those who are term limitless so that EVERYONE has a chance at being leader. In fact, the REAL LEADERS would not presume to think themselves leaders but, LEAD by example (which virtually no ‘leader’ in Malaysia has done BY stepping aside AFTER 2 terms at nmost so that other people can be leaders) by stepping aside after 2 terms or whenever something bad happens as in the flooding in Beijing recently saw the Mayor graciously vacate the post like  true gentleman ( . . . though a promotion after leaving the post seems absolutely inappropriate . . . )!

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2012/07/25/crisis-management-failure-as-beijing-mayor-resigns/

The current crop of ‘leaders’ in Malaysia though are so ‘term limitless needy’ and clinging on to power and worse still cannot change laws, cannot end apartheid and cannot help the people, that anyone who votes for such people musty be stupid or on the take. End the AP, learn that Forced Conscriptions are bad, know Crony Capitalism is bad, and know that asking for funeral funds is bad, and that term limitless family blocs in parliament DESTROY DEMOCRACY and hence TERM LIMITS should be applied.

A real leader would improve democracy not cling on to power like a Mubarak or raise Election Deposits so that a plutocracy forms, (indirectly they prevent the POOR people from running for election when they refuse to raise and ratify bills to LOWER ELECTION DEPOSITS (ideally there shoukd be a gaggle of candidates from all classes running every election at all levels, with 2 termers bowing out gracefull like gentlemen) – PREVENTING DEMOCRACY for the lower wealth classes or even minority groups (LEARN about Gandhi’s  ‘Minority of One’!), in collusion with banks and ratings agencies or commodities markets that inflate so that wealth levels cannot rise and on top of that even dare demand raises that are already many times above average wage! Wealth distribution and political paradigms as of now are failures.

There are no leaders in a TRUE DEMOCRACY, fette those who have contributed DURING their 2 terms could allow for non-participatory democracy but DO NOT ALLOW them any more powers via unlimited terms. A true leader would step aside for younger persons after 2 terms or in Ghafar Baba’s case step aside ENTIRELY instead of destroying democracy with limitless terms and family blocs and Vehicular AP or Toll Concessions, or National Service type laws.

ARTICLE 23

This is from the Peninsular Gold Ltd website:

Peninsular Gold Limited, a company incorporated in Jersey, is the holding company that owns via its two wholly-owned Malaysian subsidiaries namely, Raub Australian Gold Mining Sdn Bhd (RAGM) and S.E.R.E.M Malaysia Sdn Bhd (SEREM), gold exploration rights and conducts mining activities in the Raub District of the State of Pahang, Malaysia. Raub is Malaysia’s most historic gold mining centre that has produced over 1million oz mostly from underground operations over the period 1889 till 2004.

The Group’s mining and exploration interests are all located in Malaysia’s Central Gold Belt, which hosts the majority of Peninsular Malaysia’s gold occurrences, including the Raub, Selinsing and Penjom gold mines in the State of Pahang.

Peninsular Gold Limited is the first Malaysian-controlled gold mining company that is listed on AIM (Alternative Investment Market), London. The Group is being led by Dato’ Andrew Kam Tai Yeow as its Chairman and Chief Executive.

Who is Andrew Kam?

Dato’ Andrew Tai Yeow Kam, a Malaysian citizen, was educated in England having attended Mill?eld School in Somerset and the University of Buckingham where he graduated with a law degree. He was admitted to the Malaysian Bar in 1988. He practices at Kam Woon Wah & Company, Kuala Lumpur. Apart from his legal practice, he has extensive entrepreneurial and management experience. In 1991 he was involved, as a founding director and shareholder in the development of a 440MW independent power plant in Port Dickson, Malaysia…. (Kam Woon Wah was secretary general of the MCA in the 1960s.)

And who are among the shareholders of Peninsular Gold?

Amongst the dignitaries who attended the formal Listing ceremony was Her Royal Highness, Princess of the State of Pahang, YAM Tengku Nong Fatimah Sultan Haji Ahmad Shah, the daughter of the Sultan of Pahang. The Princess and family are also shareholders of Peninsular Gold Limited.

A company search of RAGM in 2007 revealed that among its directors was Muhammad Moiz, an ex son-in-law of the Sultan of Pahang.

What’s more, the company has been granted preferential tax status:

The Raub project has been awarded Pioneer Status by the Malaysian Industrial Development Authority, the Malaysian government’s principal agency for the promotion and coordination of industrial development in Malaysia. The Pioneer scheme provides tax incentives to selected companies, and is intended to encourage investment in Malaysia. Participation in the scheme will benefit the Raub project’s economics to a substantial degree.

They extract the gold and they are given a whole lot of tax relief while the communities around worry about the health risks. Neat. Who is subsidising whom?

Commentator Comments :

Antares says:  3 July 2012 at 11.33pm

@Stephanie… you mean the Racket Club surely? 🙂

Bukit Koman residents, with the help of environmental NGOs, have been fighting this hideous and highly polluting industry before it even began operations. There have been mysterious deaths surrounding this issue (at least two pioneer members of the Bukit Koman residents action committee have died since the campaign began, both were relatively young). PDRM, as usual, intimidated the protesters and SB have them under surveillance. Ng Yen Yen, the MP in charge of the area, has been abusive, elusive and arrogant towards the Bukit Koman protesters. Why is this project immune from public scrutiny and why have they been given tax-exempt status? …The same ugly pattern can be seen in the case of Lynas. Australian mining knowhow, local political connections … sickens one to the core to witness such unmitigated greed and insensitivity!

ARTICLE 25

Activist’s death sparks more fears in Bkt Koman – Andrew Ong & Kuek Ser Kuang Keng – 5:17PM May 2, 2009

The death of an environmental activist in Kampung Baru at Bukit Koman, Raub, has heightened residents’ fears over controversial gold mining activities taking place near this village in Pahang. Chong Sow Pin, 63, was found dead on Tuesday at his orchard some 8km from the village where about 300 families call home. He is among the founding member of the ad hoc Action Committee Against the Use of Cyanide in the mining operations.

Police Banned Green Shirts in Bukit Koman

Bukit Koman residents have been protesting for years against a gold mine using cyanide to mine gold. Recently the local police banned the residents from wearing green T-shirts which bear the campaign logo ” No Dirty Gold : Cyanide Membunuh “. Watch video here:

Facebook:
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Ban Cyanide-Mining in Bukit Koman

Ong Jing Cheng
Suara Rakyat Malaysia (SUARAM)
Penang Branch Coordinator,
63B-01-07, University Heights,
Jalan Sungai Dua,
11700 Penang.
Tel / Fax: +6 04-6582285
Mobile phone: +6 012 7583 779
E-mail: suarampg@…
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In 2008, a U.S. expert in mining contamination had visited the area and concluded that the gold mine did not comply with international standards and could cause long-term contamination. The gold mine, uses the ‘carbon-in-leach’ method and consumes 400 tonnes of sodium cyanide a year when any other non-poisonous chemical methods could be used.

Koman Anti-Cyanide Protest

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Hey idiots voters. Stop voting for rich or connected people or refusing to field independent candidates, or running as private candidates for MP and assemblyman. Get the people to vote for an candidate that will end the mining.

ARTICLE 24

Malaysia’s Green Movement Goes Political – By Anil Netto

Joint rally for clean politics and clean environment in Kuala Lumpur. Credit: Khim Pa/IPS

PENANG, Malaysia, Jul 21 2012 (IPS) – Three years ago, Sherly Hue lived the life of a typical career woman in Kuala Lumpur, working as a marketing executive promoting building materials. But one day, she received a phone call from her worried parents that would forever change her life.

Hue’s parents, who were looking after her four-month-old son in Bukit Koman, a small village of 300 families in Raub, in the central state of Pahang, requested that he be relocated to Kuala Lumpur. A gold mining company had started operations in Raub and her parents felt it was no longer safe for the baby to remain in the village.

In 2008, a U.S. expert in mining contamination had visited the area and concluded that the gold mine did not comply with international standards and could cause long-term contamination. The facility, only 200-300 m away from the village, uses the ‘carbon-in-leach’ method and consumes 400 tonnes of sodium cyanide a year.

In Kuala Lumpur, Hue sat up and took note. ”I searched on the Internet for cyanide in gold mining and found a lot of cases and accidents in many countries – even without spillages.”

Hue quickly relocated her son and her mother to Kuala Lumpur, while her father, a retired contractor-turned-smallholder, decided to remain in their village to tend to his plantation.

There was no turning back for Hue. “After I found that this project appeared harmful, I approached the secretary of the committee (opposing the gold mining operations).” She put her marketing experience to good use and proposed to the committee that it should print booklets for an awareness-raising campaign.

Hue, now 34, is vice-chairperson of the Pahang Raub Anti-Cyanide Gold Mining Committee and a key figure in Malaysia’s blossoming environmental movement.

On Oct. 9 last year, the group participated in a landmark gathering, dubbed Himpunan Hijau 1.0 (Green Gathering), at a beach in Kuantan, capital of Pahang, to endorse the ‘Earth Charter’.

A paragraph from the charter encapsulated the vision for the new green movement. “Let ours be the time remembered for the awakening of a new reverence for life, the firm resolve to achieve sustainability, the quickening of the struggle for justice and peace, and the joyful celebration of life.”

Among civil society groups and activists supporting the launch were those opposing a controversial Australian rare earth refinery run by Lynas Corporation in Kuantan and those opposing high tension power cables in Rawang, central Selangor state. Also  attending was the Coalition for Clean and Fair Elections (Bersih) and a group of indigenous ‘Orang Asli’ people.

Four months later, on Feb. 26, a second gathering, Himpunan Hijau 2.0, was held, focusing largely on the campaign to oppose the Lynas Corporation refinery. This time, some 15,000 people from all over the country converged on a field in Kuantan in what was the largest environmental gathering in Malaysian history.

But even these large gatherings were topped by Himpunan Hijau 3.0, when some 20,000 ‘green shirts’ gathered on Apr. 28 in the shadow of the Kuala Lumpur City Centre towers in an event timed to coincide with the third Bersih rally to push for electoral reforms. The splash of Himpunan Hijau greenies in a sea of over 200,000 yellow-shirted Bersih supporters captured national attention.

The mammoth rally rattled the administration of Prime Minister Najib Razak. Police responded with heavy handed action, including using military-grade razor wire to barricade a public square, firing numerous volleys of tear gas and chemically laced water into the crowds and even assaulting protesters.

At the Himpunan Hijau 3.0/Bersih 3.0 rally especially, it was evident that the environmental movement had come of age, touching a chord among many young people like Sherly Hue. How did this happen in a country where the green struggle was until last year, very much in its infancy?

Dr. Khim Pa, one of those spearheading the Penang-based People’s Green Coalition, a group of environmental activists that participated in Himpunan 3.0, marvels at the newfound awareness.

”Young people are more attuned to these environmental issues. They had been brought up on a constant diet in school on the need to recycle refuse and old newspapers. The conservation movement had also created general awareness. Young people were exposed to campaigns to plant trees, protect wildlife like the orang utans and tigers, and conserve rivers,” Pa said.

From here, young people simply made a logical leap in deduction, he believes: “They have made the connection – on the one hand there is a general movement to create awareness about the importance of conservation but on the other, you are allowing in toxic industry. The young people can make the link.”

Hue herself believes the Internet, especially social media networking sites like Facebook, played a major role. ‘Previously, youths were not interested and did not dare to come out (to protest); they were more interested in playing games and shopping,” she notes.

But Facebook disclosed a lot of information that young people could not read in the mainstream media. ”These issues caught their attention and worked on their emotions to pay closer attention to these social issues,” she says.

”But it was the anti-Lynas campaign that really grabbed attention, especially over the issue of radioactive waste,” she said.

The Himpunan Hijau and Bersih rallies have not escaped the attention of the authorities. A senior police ‘special branch’ assistant director was reported as saying the police were concerned over opposition parties and non-government organisations which “play up controversial issues and incite the public to hate the government before the general election”.

He said opposition parties were supporting the Bersih, green and other protests with one eye on the coming polls, which must be held by next June at the latest, though the prime minister may call a snap general election anytime.

Khim Pa said the green movement is now enmeshed with the yellow-shirted electoral reform push. “The whole country has woken up to this problem of environmental degradation.”

Toxic industries in the developed nations have found that they can move their dirty or toxic operations (such as aluminium smelters) to developing countries where environment standards or enforcement or both are lax, says Pa. A dermatologist by profession, Pa points to the high incidence of skin problems in Raub.

This relocation to developing countries is often facilitated by local intermediaries or cronies, or through the involvement of local partners. Pa believes that many Malaysians have now come to realise that without clean electoral rolls, they have no hope of voting in a new government that is responsive to their concerns.

Hue concurs: ”I believe our elected representatives play an important role in highlighting issues in Parliament. If the representative does not stand with the people, we have to replace the person. But if the electoral process is not clean, our right to vote becomes useless.”

Meanwhile, the marketing executive-turned-activist will no doubt be looking forward to Himpunan Hijau’s next major focal point on Sep. 2 in her hometown of Raub.

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Keep your own election records, street by street and let the records be available on internet (1 page for every voter with maps of entire streets if needed, perhaps vetted and backed by Commissioner of Oaths letters) so that whatever electoral process is used, there can be no cheating. There are 40K or less people in Raub. Shouldn’t be too difficult to organize a system like that. A group of 100 people could easily cover 40,000 signatures street by street, IC copy by IC copy if needed to remove any bad MPs. To be even safer, get UN or NAM monitors to oversee. The low tech method and transparent open vote method appears to be safest now.

An Idea for an Online Based “Constant State of Voting” System – Candidates can sign up for RM150, voters can shift or wothdraw votes at the post office any day, and everyone can check who the voted for or at least know who their neighbours voted for. Best of all number of terms (2 term limits!) can be clearly seen. The MP who sat there doing nothing will be quickly voted out, no need to wait for 4 years by which then damage has been done. For example an MP or Assemblyman chooses to destroy privately built awnings instead of amend by-laws, in an instant that MP or Assemblyman could be voted out by instant withdrawal of voters. No need to wait 4 years!

3 Articles : Considerations on ‘Underage’ Marriage and Ambiguous Actions considered Criminal (with response on Definition of Underage), Neutrality in the Controversial : Discussions on Paedophelia – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree – 15th Februaery 2012

In Abuse of Power, critical discourse, criticism, flawed judgments, freedom of choice, Freedom of Expression, if not contrived, individualism, Informed Consent, intent, Invasive Laws, Justice, Media Neutrality, mothers, political correctness, Prostitution, psychiatry, self policing, Sexuality, social freedoms, spirit of the law, spirit of the word, subculture persecution, word of the law on February 15, 2012 at 3:31 pm

ARTICLE 1

Getting married at 14 – 9 December 2010 | Save The Children | Posted by Noreen Ariff (exchange/discussion on early marriage)

News that a 22 year old school teacher had got married to a 14 year old girl has caused shockwaves in Malaysia, reverberating around the world. Recall what it was like to be 14 again, and consider if such marriages really can hold water under the law.

I still remember the 14th year of my life vividly. Every day I would wake up early in the morning to catch the morning bus to go to religious school. It lasted for 3 hours every day where afterwards I would go home and get ready to go to normal school ( this of course doesn’t mean that religious school is abnormal, I can’t think of a better description of a day school). Once in school, my friends and I would chat and chat about homework, gossiped about girls that we didn’t like and the latest boy bands that had got our fancy.

This routine continued every day for 5 days a week. Saturdays were for girl-guides and other clubs and as soon as my activities finished, I would catch a bus straight home to watch cartoons and old Malay movies on the then Singaporean Channel 5. Sundays were cartoons, 90210 and homework, lots and lots of homework. In between I would call my best friend, and we would chat and chat to our hearts content. Of course I had to help out with the household chores but let’s leave that out. In short, life was bliss. It had only one purpose: to be a kid.

My body was also changing. I had stopped wearing training bras and began using the real ones. I had gotten my period which was a bit of bother. At 14, I had only the slightest idea about sex. Sex out of wedlock is a no-no in Islam and from the medical books I read, the idea of sex actually grossed me out. I only properly learnt about the human reproduction system at 15, in science class. So at 14, I would say that I was still very awkward and blur. Did I feel and did my mum think that I was an adult just because I had breasts and was menstruating once a month? I don’t think so.

Yes, I wanted to have a boyfriend then, but at 14 marriage was the last thing on my mind. The main focus in life was to do well in school and get into a reputable university so that I can get a high-paying job, buy everything that I ever wanted, travel the world and change it. If my mum wanted to marry me off then, I would have rebelled and ran away from home because in my mind child marriages only exist in third-world countries where women were not educated, where her family had no means to support her and she had to depend on men.

I must have forgotten that Malaysia is a third-world country with third-world mentalities dominating our minds as if we had no other choice. I must have forgotten that not all parents are the same. Not all parents think that 14 year olds are kids, nor understand that having breasts and menstruation do not make these kids adults. Not all parents are patient enough to go through tough teenage years with their kids and encourage them to forget about the opposite sex for a while and stay focused on themselves and their studies.

I must have also forgotten that not all teachers are educators. I must have forgotten that once upon a time our Prophet Muhammad PBUH married Aishah, who was still a child and that is why some Muslims think it’s okay for a kid to get married. I must have forgotten that once a upon a time, Mansor Adabi a teacher of 22 years of age married Natrah, who was then 13 and our grandparents thought nothing of it.

I have forgotten that times may have changed but some minds are still trapped in the Stone Age.

I doubt Prophet Muhammed PBUH would have married Aishah if he was a prophet now and yes, I doubt Mansor Adabi and Natrah would have gotten married. The circumstances would have been different. Primary and secondary education in Malaysia now is free and available to all. Malaysian women have made it to the top echelons of organisations. I am sure these women would not be where they are right now if they had gotten married at 14. (Blesphemy! Lol, jk, but it’s a good thing Noreen is not in the worst of the Muslim world. Noreen’d be strung up and quartered, keel hauled, FGMed or whatever.)

I am appalled that after all these years there are still parents who allow their underage kids to get married and even more when their insanity is entertained by the Syariah Court who consented to these marriages. The country was just shocked by the news of the 11 year old who got married to an old man, we are now faced with news of a celebration of a 14 year old kid who got married to a 23 year old primary school teacher. The kid was quoted as saying “it’s going to be hard to juggle two roles – a student and a wife- but I’m taking it in my stride”.

I am wondering whether she fully understands what she has gotten herself into. Marriage is not about copulating and procreating alone. Everything might be rosy right now but how would she feel in a couple of years, if not months? While her friends woke up to go to school, studying or eyeing on the most good looking guy in school, she has to wake up, get the breakfast ready for her husband and after school, while others went straight to bury themselves in homework and tuition, she has to cook, wash, clean the house before night time where she has to do her wifely duties. How would she cope with pregnancy and morning sickness? She would have to miss school and probably even more after she gave birth. When her friends are burning the midnight oil for PMR and SPM, she is awake at night tending to her babies. What would she decide, if let’s say she got a place at a university that is far away from the place her husband is working. What we she do when she met a lot more men when she grew up? Would she still love her husband or resent him?

Did the Syariah Court, her parents and hubby think of all these? What are the criteria before such a marriage is allowed? Section 8 of the Islamic Family Law (Federal Territories) Act 1984 merely states:

No marriage may be solemnized under this Act where either the man is under the age of eighteen or the woman is under the age of sixteen except where the Syariah Judge has granted his permission in writing in certain circumstances.

By this section alone, there are no guidelines or fixed criteria on what constitutes “certain circumstances”. If there were guidelines, I just hope they are not parents’ consent, ability of the future husband to support and the girl has reached puberty!

Getting married just to stop the couple from any immoral behaviour is the smallest aspect of things; parents should look into the bigger spectrum of life. Perhaps they should start by watching the movie Juno or An Education (haha)! Your 14 year old kid may be getting her periods, with breasts, stopped playing with Barbie dolls and all – but they are still kids. Parents should know that teenage girls are also easily attracted to older men who seem to know the world. If only the girls waited a little longer, they would know that they too can have the world, on their own.

If the parents can’t see the big picture, the husband, who is a 23 year old teacher, should be able to. He after all is supposed to be educated and more level-minded. Having people like him as teachers makes me wonder about the quality of people allowed to be teachers of our future generation?

Teachers are not here just to teach but they are supposed to inspire our kids to reach their fullest potential. Here we have a teacher who got involved with an underage girl and in marrying her, he had coincidentally robbed her of her childhood. Something that he probably had, how would he feel if he got married at 14? Somehow he has no qualms from robbing his wife from hers. How is this teacher going to be a role model to his students in school? What is he going to say to his students, study and get married or enjoy your school life, get a job, be the best in what you do and then settle down? If he truly loved this girl, he would wait.

If the parents were responsible parents, they would have lodged a complaint against this teacher and get him transferred and as far away as possible from their daughter. Their daughter has a right to have her childhood and if Article 5 of the Federal Constitution of Malaysia means more than the right to live and includes the quality of life, then the parents, husband and the Sharia Court have clearly violated one of the most fundamental liberties of the Constitution.

It is a travesty when on the one hand rape with minors is considered statutory rape because they are under the age of consent and on the other marriages with minors are allowed. I am not saying the teacher is a paedophile but if he was, paedophiles should not be punished by allowing them to get married. Section 8 of the Islamic Family Law and any law of its kind should be repealed.

The 14 year old kid should stay a kid, no matter how much she wanted to get married; she is still a kid. There is a saying that childhood is the most beautiful of life’s seasons so do not lose it by rushing to grow up. If the parents and the guy truly loved her, they should encourage her to choose school, study, friends, gossiping with other girls about the best looking guy in their class, choose love and lost and love again, choose university, choose a career, choose independence. Do not choose marriage at the age of 14, do not make that mistake.

Choose life. Marriage at 14 is not a life.

Noreen Ariff loves being single but yes, she would like to get married…someday. She believes that people should only get married when they are mentally, emotionally and financially ready. Her LoyarBurokking here is on her own time, and her own views. They bear no reflection on the organisation she works for.

44 Responses to Getting married at 14

AgreeToDisagree
21 December 2010 – 9:16 am

hi @pointofview

Thanks for the kind word. I don’t like leaving room for misunderstanding by keeping elegantly silent or keeping people misinformed to empower myself, or to cause others to err then blame them, or give others reason to ostracise or abuse them after intentionally causing them to trip up (first hand to the N-th here), and this is the only principled way to communicate.

By being on an even playing field, though ‘stupidos’ could also be propagandists and advocates of authoritarianism via neurolinguistic programming half the time seeking to enrich themselves at the expense of the people.

These mental goons probably seek to propagate acceptance of 3rd world paradigms of tasering, abusive attitudes by counter staff, abuse of citizens by enforcement, shoot-first policy, entrapment, electronic harrassment, alongside other miserable and inhuman methods to enslave and contaminate democratic principles with grey area abuses while their family Oligarchs reserve MP seats and hand down the same MP seats between their children and grandchildren or sometimes partly hidden through cosanguinity (imagine Khairy marrying Nurul or something along those lines or every former PM’s child being a Minister or PM) . . . you get the picture (thats also how UMNO imploded with Pak-Lah-KJ vs. dr.Evil-Mukhriz creating so much resentment that so many disappointed voters ran for Pakatan and the same in Pakatan now causing voters to run for MCLM and KITA or becoming independents).

It is sheer inadequacy that makes these insane people go around spreading rumours or harming others. It is worse when those listening and believing the rumours are induced to act. What kind of justice or reparation can be sought? Those who broke the law should be punished accordingly or at the very least in kind. We have to keep aware and alert the public to such behaviour and seek to prevent continuation of such behaviour via educating the voters on such issues and building awareness for everyone to be wary of the modus operandi of such abusers.

And as we know a large portion of crimes are done by people who know the victim, so don’t be too excited or flattered or frightened by sudden boons or banes in the form of people or gift horses, they are easily inventions of the sick society we live in, right all the way up to the political parties in power.

pointofview
20 December 2010 – 10:32 pm

@ Agreetodisagree

I salute you for the facts that you have mentioned in your earlier comments to date. It is pointless to go into an argument or battle with some stupidos who can’t think out of the box. Anyway, bravo for justifying your points.

@ SiewEng

Yes, she made the right choice for her. A man and a woman or should I say a boy and a girl can meet in any circumstances, there shouldn’t be so much emphasize on the teacher student relationship. How if the cupid’s arrow striked between a doctor (a man) and a patient (a young girl 14 maybe)? Love is blind darling. It’s good if it ends up with marriage rather than other social ill issues. Right?

And as for others who have commented here…. start thinking out of the box. It looks like you guys are the ones living in the primitive world… go figure…

siewchinteo
20 December 2010 – 6:24 pm

at times it is difficult to reconcile how a person who “thinks out of the box” can actually accept hudud law…..or any restrictive law for that matter.

but what do i know – i am 3rd world and supports chopping off the head of anyone who harms a child.

AgreeToDisagree
20 December 2010 – 2:38 pm

No wonder the quality of our legal system is dropping. We have someone ready to deny facts than face them.

1) I understand every word that you have used in your reply . . .

But you lack the EQ or are afraid to absorb it.

2) But I think I speak on behalf of everyone here when I say, they seem to mean nothing when read as a sentence. Lol.

I don’t think so. If you read without thinking or trying to understand what is written that usually ends up bring the case.

3) No such thing as constitutional amendment when the basic structure of the constitution does not envisage the hudud law……ever!

Hudud does not need to exist upon Constitution. It exists in the hearts of the faithful in Islam, and those willing to be punished under it’s auspices. If you are a disciplined Muslim or a non-Muslim, no need to fear Hudud.

4) Once again, to keep things simple, go read your federal constitution you fucking nimrod!

Twist around trying to evade the facts, but facts remain facts. The federal constitution is not only to be read, but amended you fucking dimknob.

5) I also must add, you are one fucking dumbshit.

Speak for yourself. Still no case, now compounded by trying to evade facts with ‘value deducted’ sentence structures.

Let the readers judge the points (or in your case non-points) in this exchange for themselves.

Ali Davidson
20 December 2010 – 7:56 am

AgreetoDisagree,

I understand every word that you have used in your reply but I think I speak on behalf of everyone here when I say, they seem to mean nothing when read as a sentence. Lol.

It is just pure baloney.

No such thing as constitutional amendment when the basic structure of the constitution does not envisage the hudud law……ever!

Once again, to keep things simple, go read your federal constitution you fucking nimrod!

I also must add, you are one fucking dumbshit.

AgreeToDisagree
18 December 2010 – 3:35 pm

@Ali Davidson,

I keep walking into rooms full of establishment minded people who are unable to employ either critical or lateral thought. Or who wish to keep their fellow citizens in an easy manipulated state? I will presume you belong to the former category and so the responsibility falls upon to debunk yet again.

“You can’t apply Hudud la you dumbshit.” Is that so? Oh yes you certainly can apply Hudud.

Hudud Whipping? A Hudud signatory could call it a BDSM club with no physical contact to remain legal in Islam.

Hudud limb removal as pubnishment? A Hudud signatory could claim it was an association for treatment of body integrity identity disorder (BIID).

If Hudud is applied anywhere consensually under the above, the Federal Parliament have no say. And though it VAINLY claims to have the right to, the claim is absolutely inapplicable and should not even be brazenly misrepresented as being applicable. Dishonesty is a terrible sickness of so-called ‘Democratic Governments’.

QUOTE Journal of Applied Philosophy – “amputations should be morally permissible” on the grounds that people with BIID are not “globally irrational”. UNQUOTE

On this technicality and by the methods above, Hudud could be applied.

IT IS THEIR BODY, SO THEIR RIGHT ANYWAY, not for anyone to deny or legislate. More authoritarianism on your part? The constitution is a guideline that can change with time thats why there are CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS. Given the sorry state of Malysia’s judiciary and political paradigms though these CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS have not been applied.

The right to Hudud punishments is a negative freedom but still a freedom nonetheless. No group of citizens via rule of mob or supposed right of larger numbers, might in numbers has any right to enforce ANYTHING on anyone. That is application of ETHICAL principles to a very difficult issue.

The as you call it, ‘fucking’ constitution. doesn’t work and should be amended but isn’t amended because we have lgislators busy trying to steal taxpayer monies who do not understand that Constitution is a living breathing document that needs to have changes to accomodate the PEOPLE, *NOT* the PEOPLE change to suit it because numerically they are out numbered, by force of arms even!

No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it. In the context of consensual Hudud vs. an inapplicable Constitution, guess where the Spirit of the Law lies? And that my ethically unaware or lazy minded friend, is the essence of Civilisation as opposed to the attitude of Malicious Compliance or brute force and punishment based on inapplicable words on a piece of paper. Teach a child to think by giving freedom, not hit a child into not thinking or imprison. Of course sheep are easier to herd, so it is easy to see who intends his charges well and who inevitably ends up abusing them.

The principle is the issue of victimlessness of an action and the right to self determinism. If there are spaces that can be made for whatever they wish experience, just you remember that the world and lands on the world belong to EVERYONE not those most numerous, with the most powerful weapons or the loudest voices or the ability to impose fines and jail terms by force of arms. The ethics of civilisation, be aware and apply!

This civilisation, the display of the tolerance of man, for the relatively minor weirdness that constitutes a mere fraction of the LIMITLESS POSSIBILITIES of what we perceive as reality.

Remember Stephen Hawking’s comments on Cthulu? Start thinking out of that box and stop putting people into it because you are too weak minded or LAZY minded. So many narrow minded and authoritarian people around? Making excuses for weak mindedness. Stop being lazy and TEACH responsibility not introduce/impose the Crutches of Authoritarianism on your fellow sentients. In a short while we could very well be having bio-engineered lifeforms ‘Spore’ style and brain transplants to boot alongside all manner of cybernetics. Does this mean a group who can’t wrap their head around these concepts has a right to demand others not be allowed to partake (after extensive ETHICAL testing to ensure no unwanted fallout occurs by any chance of course)?

“The tyranny of the many would be when one body takes over the rights of others, and then exercises its power to change the laws in its favor.” – Voltaire

So don’t tell me Hudud is so shocking. Its really very dull and not something I would chose, *BUT* the principal of the matter is that it’s that person’s choice and to respect God given free will and self determinism, we must at least make space for them to choose their own path. The world belongs to EVERYONE not the ‘majority’ alone. Spirit of Law. No more of this crudity, even against crudity.

For example, look at Section 377B, doesn’t exist in India or England. So why is it maintained here? To be used as a weapon. Every Malaysian who has had oral sex is guilty 377B and should be imprisoned 20 years and whipped. Were government to apply such laws instead of amending them, then we’d all be in prison.

So do you think the Constitution can be applied to Hudud even?

“If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for

people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all.”

– Noam Chomsky

As Anwar was a victim of entrapment, so this trial doesn’t count. When a kangaroo court is in session, another political enemy is made to bite the dust. Again spirit of the law trampled by the judiciary’s negligence to amend, by unconstitutional powers to appoint judges, by abusing where people find most pleasure or necessity (like extreme taxes on vehicles) or inflicting Concessionaire Highways and Vehicular-APs on citizens.

Also, understand what ‘cultural relativism’ and ‘free will’ mean you dimknob! So who’s the dumbshit now? Let the readers decide! Pathos without Logos! And don’t mention the Fed or the Constitution, that would be Ethos without Logos! No logic, means no case.

Ali Davidson
18 December 2010 – 9:41 am

AgreetoDisagree,

You can’t apply Hudud la you dumbshit. It is the Federal Parliament that sanctions the level of punishments for the Syariah courts.

Read your fucking constitution you nimrod!

AgreeToDisagree
18 December 2010 – 2:44 am

@Ali Davidson

“Syariah law in Malaysia is archaic and primitive.”

True. But people who WANT HUDUD even, have a right to live by Hudud. Though imposing any law without consent is also wrong. Hudud is livable if you are very disciplined, but most Muslims can’t really do it. That is PAS’s weak point. If PAS makes Hudud applicable on a signatory basis, with all Muslims still under Syariah Law as well, PAS would be quite strong. You could even say that any PAS Malay is an honest and non-corrupt Malay who is a proper follower of Islam. They need to be apply Hudud in this manner or they will chase Malay voters away.

With Tok Guru’s condemnation of Bumiputraism as APARTHEID and ex-Perlis Mufti Dr Mohd Asri Zainal stating Bumiputra is akin to Zionism amonst others, PAS is quite popular in contemporary Malaysia among the minorities.

On the ethical scorecard, PMBK CEO Datuk Abdul Ariffahmi Abdul Rahman being asked to quit by Tok Guru to prevent conflict of interest sets a precedent probably in the whole of ASEAN, though here and there instances of extreme wealth have surfaced, though not as shocking as in BN.

Casual Analysis of Malaysian parties (International links wise) :

1) PAS is the safest where national security is concerned, other than ties with a mostly neutral German delegation, they look absolutely dedicated to Malaysian sovereignty.

2) DAP, as oligarchic and nepotistic as PAP is colluding with PAP on illegal technological fronts at USA’s behest, USA itself is beholden to the Zionist lobby.

3) PKR has Wolfowitz and others linked to Zionism as well though recent distancing of US from PKR’s ANwar make PKR slightly better for nationl sovereignty though NEPOTISM and OLIGARCHY in PKR however are so serious that MCLM and KITA have been set up to counter that in PKR.

4) The double faced Zionist-APCO link, damns Barisan no end.

Don’t laugh at Syariah or even Hudud Ali Davidson, it’s their choice if they really want it and have not been coerced. Self Determinism also applies in liefstyles like Hudud or those luddite minded Amish Mennonite communities in the USA. It’s a free world, don’t disparage that and even help others fight for their right to SELF DETERMINISM.

Ali Davidson
17 December 2010 – 10:44 pm

Just do away with Syariah law in Malaysia and you’ll have peace and harmony!

Syariah law in Malaysia is archaic and primitive.

I laugh each time I hear about Syariah law in Malaysia.

AgreeToDisagree
16 December 2010 – 3:15 am

That line is abit over the top and loses by itself, but you get the picture lol. But the arguement is won elsewhere in the repartee am very sure.

Awang Berbahaya
16 December 2010 – 1:44 am

You guys are a bunch of loonies.

REPENT from doing SATAN’s work? ROTFL

Saya tiba2 terbayang adegan seorang penceramah ajaran sesat dalam filem yang kononnya ada kuasa ajaib untuk memulihkan penyakit hanya dengan memegang dada pesakit.

@Agreetodisagree- I think you have lost your argument.

AgreeToDisagree
16 December 2010 – 12:12 am

England is the flunky for going on a 10th Crusade against Saddam for double standards on 2nd Amendment Rights and causing near 500,000 deaths. A holocaust only upped by the Ameri-Indian Natives in USA and Canada and South Americas.

I will indulge your skewed perception on free will and your attempts to turn the public against people trying to ensure open opinion and free mindedness.

What do you mean so by default what you say is not relevant and holds not water? Flunked Logic 101?

Because we advocate self determinism, and children who are psychologically mature or who will come to less harm being married than being jailbait, does not mean we are paedophiles. I personally am more inclined to Borticelli than Loli phenotype though if @pointof view is into the latter, and everyone is consensual to marriage including parents, why should there be an issue?

Marriage and childbirth dignifies the tween or teen (especially if biologocally capable) and transitions her into a woman and MOTHER, not some mentally immatured ingenue long past her biological fertility, that that too is a choice that must remain open to the fairer sex.

Did you think the stork dropped off babies at the orphanage and that only aging women are entitled to adopt and raise children, who are sometimes forcibly placed there via child alienation?

Even male-male homosexual couples are permitted to adopt and raise children, (by the initiative of a certain alter ego I would hope?) why do you seek to forbid young couples in love who chose to become life partners?

During tribal times where all was untamed wilderness, when 2 people matured, they would probably leave the tribe to set up their own family and start ‘experimenting’ much earlier as well. Was there a law then? Then the male would take out his bow and arrow and . . . HUNT animals (OMG someone call PETA! Duh.). (No I wasn’t going to get explicit.)

Then there is the ageism issue, is difference in age any indicator of maturity or a reason to place a barrier to consensual marriage?

NEUTRAL SPACES for thought and living! Autonomy!

Go hurl your stones somewhere else and put those pitchforks and torches to better use, like against an abusive government which far too many have vested interest (perhaps you are one who profits from the proliferation of ‘charities’, orphanages, child services, or child alienation lawsuits? REPENT from doing Satan’s work by speaking for his Satanic social engineering structures and leave us independent citizens alone.)

All religious institutions running as businesses as well had better empty those coffers full of sequesterd funds that never benefit society, PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING, EVEN DYING OUT THERE.

It is YOU who is advised to seek medical help for your lack of logic and attempt at tarring anyone by calling them paedophiles. God knows they’ve made a sacred taboo of freedom to marry alongside religion without more people egging the ‘self serving charitable’ on.

Oneofthesedays
15 December 2010 – 10:28 pm

@pointofview @AgreeToDisagree

Looks like you flunked England too….

You are a couple of pedophile supporters so by default what you say is not relevant and holds no water.

My advice to you is to seek medical help for your sickness.

siew eng
15 December 2010 – 7:49 am

“She probably dont know or understand what she is getting herself into but I think she has made the right choice for her.”

This reminds me of Noor Kumalarasi who said she’d follow even the hadiths that are daif.

How well the teacher taught the student!

pointofview
14 December 2010 – 8:46 am

Oneofthesedays

You must be a joke… math? go figure the world… I didnt flunked my maths or language but making a simple point that if that teacher guy made his decision to marry the 14 year old girl then he should be ready to double up his duties. 14, 24 or 30 the house chores or what you call as maid duties should be shared to build a good marriage. Obviously, you dont have the capacity to understand that.

FarFarAway
14 December 2010 – 1:12 am

Generally, the law of the land (which would have been gazetted normally after discussion, debate and consultations) should be observed.

However, in Msia, there appears to be two sets of law and these need to be streamlined – after a fair discussion/debate/consultations, of course – where a legal minimum age for marriage should be set clearly.

AgreeToDisagree
14 December 2010 – 12:11 am

@Oneofthesedays

“If you can’t tell the diff between 14 and 24 you must have flunked math :)”

You don’t need to know math for wifely duties, to give birth or nurse children. The poorer husband though would require doubling up for cook’s or even maid’s duties though, but the same do not need math either. In fact math is not even needed for housebuilding (the traditional way) or farming crops or mining. Do we need math or even language for that matter? A club and a cave is more important than math.

Oneofthesedays
13 December 2010 – 9:12 pm

pointofview

if you can’t tell the diff between 14 and 24…you must have flunked math 🙂

pointofview
13 December 2010 – 11:43 am

By the way, the age gap between my husband and I is 9 years. We have a beautiful daughther. And I must say that, I’m a happily married woman and I’m enjoying every bits of my life to the fullest with my husband who once was my teacher.

pointofview
13 December 2010 – 11:32 am

I dont understand why this issue of a teacher marrying a student is so provoking to the society. I’m married to my teacher. The difference is that we waited until I finished my studies and got married at the age of 24. See, this girl has made her choice by marrying the teacher at a very young age. We are nobody to judge her or the teacher. She probably dont know or understand what she is getting herself into but I think she has made the right choice for her. I’m not condoning their actions but sometimes when you are ready to get married…just go ahead and get married. If not, the right person to come by will take sometime…or maybe not at all.

As for the parents, I dont think they want to escape from their parental resposibility. They just dont want to see their daugther being unmarried, have sex and get pregnant. So, by marrying her to that guy will ease their worries. Sometimes, when you have daughthers, the right measure should be taken to prevent wrong doings. Just think of it that we are reversing the time to early 40’s, 50’s or 60’s….where women get married at a very young age and build their happy families.

p/s: this is for the writer:

before you loyarburok about others, please do some research and gather your facts and point of views. Just dont hantam people. Anyway, you are single. What do you know about getting married or being married?

Charlie
13 December 2010 – 4:02 am

Speaking as someone who does not live in Malaysia and who has never lived in a majority Muslim community, and therefore probably more removed from the emotions behind the debate, I wasn’t surprised to hear that children of 14 are getting married in Muslim countries (after all, the prophet Mohammed pbuh himself married multiple wives (11) one of whom was betrothed to him at the age of 6 and the marriage was consummated at 10 (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad’s_wive…. In this context, I was relieved that there was not too much of an age gap between the newly married couple (only 8 years) which is a pleasant contrast to the extremes we see in truly undeveloped places like Afghanistan: See this picture of a 40 year old man married to an 11 year old girl that won Unicef Photo of the year http://www.metro.co.uk/news/80298-under-age-marri….

That said, I (and I expect many others in the West) do perceive marriage at such a young age to be a practice of countries less progressive than Malaysia, and I was surprised that there is this “loophole” in Malaysian law that allows the marriageable age of 16 to be broken if sanctioned by a Shariah court. I think it is scary and undesirable that such a court could sanction marriage to girls much younger than 14 if it wanted to. I think there should be a lower age limit on this power. What that age limit should be should be a topic of debate for the Muslim community in Malaysia.

Looking at marriageable ages around the world, the trend is to raise them not to lower them. The trend is also to stop the practice of children getting married. In 2008 Egypt raised the marriageable age from 16 to 18 and also outlawed female circumcision (a barbaric practice which I believe many of my Muslim brothers and sisters in certain countries have tolerated for too long). Even Saudi Arabia and Yemen (among the most prolific for child marriages) are also looking to introduce a minimum marriageable age. Such action is largely in response to outcries at what their indigenous populations saw as morally reprehensible behaviour in a marriage context (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nujood_Ali).

So, I think that is good news for the world. I am pleased that Malaysia is not having more extreme stories of forced marriages with larger age gaps coming out and I am also pleased that there is a willingness to debate these issues openly. No country is perfect, but through debate, willingness to change and pursuit of principles of fairness we stand a good chance of making our countries better and more harmonious places to live.

AgreeToDisagree
12 December 2010 – 3:14 am

What have you seen at 14? Why can’t you wait?

Well after picking the husband of choice or being picked by a successful suitor, or having an meticulously and astrologically soundly calculated arranged marriage (with someone not too noxious to oneself), the now matured woman (maybe in her late 30s onwards), may still choose to ‘see the world’ after raising her children to adulthood.

Who says a lfestyle has to be linear or binary? Try thinking out of the box, and while saying it is justified by Islam is the lazy way out, I think the Prophet would concur with my entirely secular and logic based views on the matter.

It IS okay for minors to get married. But only after many considerations are to be factored in. Best of luck, and don’t wait too long for ‘true love’, by biological factors, some things are best enjoyed and more viable while young!

Noreen
12 December 2010 – 1:02 am

Hi All,

Thank you all for your comments again. I am happy that my article has generated views both from those who are okay with underage marriages and those who are against it. And so, thank you for your concerns Crystal. I am touched.:-)

Who would have thought that there are people who are okay with underage marriages? Seriously. Again, seriously?!!

I feel compelled to comment again because I do not appreciate being called as someone who back-out from a war and having accused as someone with a perverted, corrupted mind who failed to understand the attributes and teachings of Prophet Muhammad.

The reference to stoneage is a metaphor to a time different from ours and to minds that somehow have not caught up with the 21st century. It wasn’t supposed to be read literally as a prehistoric period where man made tools from stones.

True, I agree that Prophet Muhammad’s marriage to Aishah is an exceptional case but is the teacher like Prophet Muhammad and is the kid like Aishah? Abu Bakar As-Siddiq blessed the marriage between Aishah and Prophet Muhammad because of:

(a) to reinforce friendly relations between him and the Prophet;

(b) to educate and train Aisha so she may served the purposes of Islam; and

(c) to teach her to utilise her capabilities for the sake of Islam.

If (note-IF) the parents’ intentions for approving the marriage were:

(a) to escape from their responsibility as parents; and

(b) to legalise sex between a minor and an adult.

Then, I feel sorry for the girl.Marriage is no child’s play and this was why the last paragraph of my article above was styled in the manner of the last dialogue in the movie Trainspotting. It is to evoke images of choices,empowerment, independence and there is more to life than getting married. See and experience the world first, then decide. What have you seen at 14? Why can’t you wait? True love waits.

To say it is okay for minors to get married because the Prophet did it to me is the same as saying it is okay for parents to kill their kid as a sacrifice to Allah. The same way as Ibrahim almost killed Ismail before being rewarded for his loyalty and faith with a big sheep sent down from the heaven to be slaughtered instead of Ismail. Sacrifice in this modern age has taken into a more in depth meaning if not metaphoric and is more than slaughtering the sacrificial sheep.

Farha’s suggestions to me is a happy compromise and while I respect her views, I still stand with what I have written. To me there is no compromise in underage marriages. It should be banned altogether.

As for the teacher and his newly married child-bride, good luck.I wish you all the best and may you have a blissful marriage.

Have a good weekend everyone.

zenonidenoni
11 December 2010 – 7:33 am

The Prophet Muhammad SAW is a mercy sent by Allah to mankind. His acts and his words were never driven by lust, his wisdom came from Allah through the the teaching of the Angel Jibrail. It is in your perverted mind that think their marriage was by lust, then why not the prophet married 10 young girls, why did he married only one while he can have them all, nobody was going to question the prophet back then. But he did marry only one girl and not making her as his daughter because a stepdaughter in Islam is not allowed to access much of his private life, which in fact, very important to us Muslims to learn about his way of life. The hardness of his life not only felt by him, but also his daughter Fatimah and all of his nine wives. He acted not upon his desire nor lust, but his actions were always guided by Allah. And people would slander him if he took Aisyah r.a. as a stepdaughter. You guys had not read nor study the life of the prophet or other prophets, so you will not have any idea other than what in store of your perverted, corrupted mind.

zenonidenoni
11 December 2010 – 7:17 am

I’m out of this argument. No point arguing anymore. I had made my stand, deliver my message that we should not intervene with the marriage, for fear it may cause them to separate. We should be supportive, not destructive, they are already married with the consent of their parents.

Who are we to decide that playing and going on school trips are good for her. We should grab whatever opportunity to do good deeds and shall not delay it for tomorrow for fear that the chance might go off. We don’t even know what is going to happen the next second, we can only assume. So, please, janganlah bersangka buruk dengan orang lain. Goodbye.

Crystal
11 December 2010 – 5:41 am

Dear Noreen,

Do not be disheartened by some of the comments by your readers. The way most Malaysians reacted to this news, we all know how the majority feels about this. And I very much agree with U-En Eng. This is not about the girl’s rights to get married. The questions really is about whether she is mature enough. I know some 14-year olds who are very mature, but why can’t it wait? If you are so confident about your love, why not wait?

And so many of you are not parents. Neither am I. But I shudder to think that there may be a teacher in my nieces schools who may be flirting and having a relationship with them! Parents are supposed to protect and prevent their children from making mistakes. How can a 14 year old really know what marriage really is and what she has committed herself into? What is the point of “building a family life early so by the age of 40, their children can help and support and build even bigger family.” Why not 20+??

And so many talk about the ‘legal’ aspect of marriage. Sex with a minor is still SEX WITH A MINOR, married or otherwise! MARRIAGE DOES NOT MAKE A KID OLDER! Marriage is not just a “holy union of two souls with god as witness”. It’s a lot of work, work that 14 year olds may not be capable of. Work that is not necessary for a 14 year old. She should be playing and going on school trips and having fun with her friends. How can you say she chose it when she may not even know what the hell she is talking about?

U-En Ng
11 December 2010 – 4:46 am

Do we trust a 14-year-old (or any girl on the basis of her first period, regardless of age) to drive a car? Buy a house? Work in a factory? Get a credit card?

If there is an element of prejudgement in preventing underaged marriage (in that it deprives an individual, regardless of her age, of choice), aren’t we also bound at least to consider that an individual’s capacity for deciding *ought* to be tested by *sufficient maturity*?

farha
10 December 2010 – 11:18 pm

There are pros and cons to marrying at such a young age. In those days (yes, i HAVE to make that comparison), girls marry young but usually because their families have arranged for it…rarely does the girl marry out of their own volition.

Today, if the 14-year-old girl (who recenly is in the press) marry because she want to, to the guy who is right (at that time), feels she’s capable, why not? She have the right to get married…this i don’t deny. However, she also have the right to an education that supports teenage mums.

I think, then, there has to be some kind of guidelines to i)ensure they remain educated; or in worse case scenario, ii)be able to re-join school if she don’t want to attend school for the time being (for whatever reason)

(e.g – how many times can these young mums defer PMR/SPM if they take maternity leave? is there ‘compassionate leave’ for them if they need to attend to sick babies?)

kaza
10 December 2010 – 10:35 pm

Intresting article, Noreen. Funny comments from ‘some’ readers thou…

zenonidenoni
10 December 2010 – 8:34 pm

Oneofthesedays

quote – when are you marrying your 14 year-old?pedophile defender = pedophile

so nothing you have said has any credibility.

the pervert teacher should be arrested for rape and not be allowed near children unsupervised ever again.-end quote-

wah,so nice of you to accuse someone who you don’t even know. Do you understand that pedophile is a person who had sex (unmarried of course) with a young person. Between a legal husband and wife, you have no jurisdiction for that. And I always think it is nothing wrong to marry early, they are not rob from their childhood, they are building their family life early so by the age of 40, their children can help and support and build even bigger family.

By the way, my gf is a nice beautiful and charming 24-year old lady whom I’m going to marry her if Allah permit when I have enough money.

p/s: A writer should write responsibly.

AgreeToDisagree
10 December 2010 – 6:04 pm

hi @L,

1) ” and as Marina Mahathir had said in her column in The Star, marrying a teenager just for the sake of preventing “social ills” such as pre-marital sex can actually lead to bigger social ills like abuse, lack of education for the female bride therefore lack of her ability to fend for herself and thus have to be entirely dependent on her husband to decide her life for her as per his will…etc.

Not in every case. And with a strong and watchful (DO NOT BE ‘offensively watchful’ – try malicious compliance, for respect for her husband is critical to their marital bliss – warning all so-called feminists to check those attitudes in advance, especially older jealous jilted/unmarried ones) community setting I mention, ‘fending’ will be very unlikely.

As for ‘conveniently saintly’ Marin ‘Evil’ Mahathiru who looks potentially to angle herself via MCLM as Malaysia’s First Female PM, and the spectre of her becoming Malaysia’s First Female PM in true DYNASTY/OLIGARCHY form after her father dr.Evil, is just too horrible to mention. dr.Evil would never face a trial, and the ‘pity my father’ and ‘since I am also PM’ ploy will be all too obvious by then. She would likely to protect her father, whitewash Ops Lallang, or the Vehicular AP system or the APARTHEID or billions worth of ILLEGAL shipping bailouts, closed tenders, free contracts, unpaid and ignored bills and illegal movements of funds for Marina’s brothers Mirzan and Mokhzani.

By vested interests Mirzan is a director of at least eight companies listed on the Kuala Lumpur Stock Exchange. His private company, Peringkat Prestasi, a large stake in Lion Corp. His Konsortium Perkapalan Bhd, a listed haulage and logistics company, controls almost half of Malaysia’s road freight market. Imagine the number of freely given contracts this guy got!

Mokhazani, ex-UMNO Treasurer, is worth well over a billion, through his vehicle Kenchana Petroleum and much of the undistributed NEP wealth through a network of subsidiaries and proxies. Imagine the number of close tenders this guy got!

Careful of MCLM simply by the association of committee post bearer Marina to her brothers and by extension dr.Evil Mahathir! Blood is thicker than water and in the nepotistic and oligarchic world of blood relations, ALL the Rakyat are but water, so NEVER vote for those who by association attempt to protect those who have harmed Malaysia so much over the past 22 years. I’d drop MCLM for fear that friendships between Haris/RPK and Marina would be a protective last pitch weapon coordinated by the evil Mahathir in the background somehow. To play it safe, I’d advise all voters or current MCLM supporters to look for other options than MCLM or set up as private candidates instead. A 3rd Force is indeed needed but MCLM by blood association to dr.Evil, has too many holes for any cautious voter’s liking.

Citizens, run as private candidates instead if you want a 3rd Force so badly.

2) those who advocate this practice are supporters of a repressive patriarchal system who believe a woman’s purpose in life is to be a good wife and serve the man, who then will have all the rights to determine her life for her. Women are humans too, in case you have not noticed. Women have the right to choose…yes…some may choose marriage. but if at a young age, how sure are we that that choice is a choice made by an uninfluenced mind with a clear and rational idea of what she is committing herself towards.

Not necessarily again. Do you know what joy a child-like mind who has indulged and lived out whimsical decisions can accrue in the years to come? She will always say, I always had my way. And that is part of the magic of having a young bride that you may never know because of your distrust or lack of access of the strong supportive community as I mention.

Such settings are few but should be encouraged, and by this way of upbringing, the next generation of adults would be equally joyful and privileged, to influence society to a happier and freer world. I partook of a different form, (not a child bride) and here I am sharing what I have ‘gained’, though throughout there was much anger at the freedom I always felt and still wish to share.

The gain I mention above is incalculable as opposed to the devastating social engineering occurring this day. Though with caveats as in my earlier comment. Think deeper and in the right setting and conditions, the above culture is a wonder and luxury to behold that while out of reach to most today, should really be extended to all peoples of the world in time to come.

AgreeToDisagree
10 December 2010 – 5:46 pm

hi Noreen :

You said ” My question is why not? Writers write, readers decide.”

True but entirely neglecting the finer point I will now discuss below.

But too many people don’t really know their own mind or have had time to develop the intelligence or linguistic skills to make their own opinions or even develop their personality *shock* – schooling is something I feel should begin AFTER age 35 when a stable core personality has developed.

That is also why the AGEISM issue in uniformed or enforcement recruiting – a very vicious agenda that strips a young individual of the opportunity to develop themselves. Do you think a matured soldier who has lived as a civilian would torture prisoners as in Abu Gharaib? Go to war when the reasons are wrong? Hardly, so the young and vulnerable are being targeted and as an matured person (which I assume you are, note I used the word mature, because old age does not make for maturity) it is a responsibility for the conscientious to prevent such ‘collateral damage’ (in afflicting self determinism or formation of opinion) which I see many writers in many online mags or blogs neglecting to address entirely.

So when you write, you could end up inadvertently subsuming any opinions a reader might have had or that were in formation! Especially the less intelligent ones or those from lower socio-political classes who have been inculpated with ‘approval seeking’ natures.

Perhaps forums should have a rating system or warning (by the Information Ministry – which obviously is a propaganda machine with no sense of right or wrong, save for the political forces currently at sway) on the above matters to better prepare the readers for strong opinions that effectively end up as an imposition of ‘social engeineering’ without ‘informed consent’.

For added responsibility and respect for the free will of others to avoid this problem, such safeguards and considerations must always be met and never trivilised or neglected unless we have an ‘agenda’.

Now I do not know you well enough to judge that you have been tainted by communication with such people but if you are, please drop those guys, even if they pay you a salary to spin, and begin writing CONSCIENTIOUSLY and in a NEUTRAL manner.

As we communicate, more problems are identified and better ways of communication and social development are discovered. I think there are many who would find this exchange on the issue itself and the ‘why not’ you have brought up useful. Also very appreciative on the replies! Some article writers only want to pontificate and never engage or discuss as if theirs was the gospel tructh, others twist your comments via selective moderation, I really appreciate this and our so-called ‘aduns’ should learn to communicate with the Rakyat who voted them in after all.

Nice chatting!

KoE
10 December 2010 – 4:58 pm

I’m surprise that the writer failed to understand that the teachings and the attributes of Prophet Muhammad PBUH are universal and stand correct across the time

Oneofthesedays
10 December 2010 – 4:53 pm

@zenonidenoni

when are you marrying your 14 year-old?

pedophile defender = pedophile

so nothing you have said has any credibility.

the pervert teacher should be arrested for rape and not be allowed near children unsupervised ever again.

L
10 December 2010 – 1:48 pm

i enjoy reading your article. it is refreshing to see how some people in the community have a strong opinion against such a practice.

just because marriage has legalized sex with a minor, it doesn’t mean that it is not paedophilia. that is an extreme view, i am aware of that. but such a view cannot be dismissed altogether.

and as Marina Mahathir had said in her column in The Star, marrying a teenager just for the sake of preventing “social ills” such as pre-marital sex can actually lead to bigger social ills like abuse, lack of education for the female bride therefore lack of her ability to fend for herself and thus have to be entirely dependent on her husband to decide her life for her as per his will…etc.

those who advocate this practice are supporters of a repressive patriarchal system who believe a woman’s purpose in life is to be a good wife and serve the man, who then will have all the rights to determine her life for her. Women are humans too, in case you have not noticed. Women have the right to choose…yes…some may choose marriage. but if at a young age, how sure are we that that choice is a choice made by an uninfluenced mind with a clear and rational idea of what she is committing herself towards. some laws need to be enacted to protect people from their closest people, their love interests, families and even from themselves, in order to adequately protect their rights as a human, deserving of every freedom a human is entitled to.

zenonidenoni
10 December 2010 – 9:54 am

You can’t just declare a war and then back off..

But hey, no need to raise the alarm, I come in peace. And I did not say you insult the Prophet SAW. Only that I read that you talked about stone age in one paragraph, and the next paragraph you continue with a doubt about the Prophet decision if he was here. There is a link of ideas going on.. which I understood you wanted to say that the Prophet lived in the stone age…something like that.

And hey again, I think we should say to the girl to learn to be a good wife, and we should say to the husband, be gentle to your wife and we should say to their families we support you although we differ in our actions and decisions because we know this is not wrong and it has nothing to do with public opinion because this is their private life. Or just say something good and not being “buruk sangka” to other people.

Noreen
10 December 2010 – 7:38 am

Hi All,

Thank you for all your comments. It feels great that this article has evoked many thoughts and opinions. You have made me more inspired because the worst thing about writing is not having any readers at all.

Anyway: –

Dear Zedoninonini,

I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not taking up your challenge. Firstly because I am fully aware of my credibility and credentials when I wrote this. I do not have to prove this to anyone, certainly not to you. Secondly, I do not how you read the article, I did not insult Prophet Mohammad. Thank you for your comments.

Dear Agree to Disagree,

I see your points and if I had not formed any opinion on the issue of underage marriages,I might actually agree with all that you have just said. One point though, when you said “writers should not make opinions on any lifestyle as if it were the only way to live”. My question is why not? Writers write, readers decide.

zenonidenoni
10 December 2010 – 5:45 am

Salam, I am here to defend the Prophet Muhammad SAW although he does not need anyone to defend himself, but I’m doing it because I love him. Therefore O Writer of the Post, I have seven questions to challenge your credibility to have your opinion made public and yet accepted upon this gray issue. What you had wrote will surely applauded by disbelievers who always looking not by the wisdom of the Deen of Haq. Herewith are my questions:

1. Regardless of your marital status, what will you consider a marriage is, a gift from Allah, natural selection or a curse?

2. Have you studied intensively the story of the Prophet Muhammad SAW that you come to a conclusion that he will not get married to Aisyah r.a. if they live in this modern age?

3. You said, “I have forgotten that times may have changed but some minds are still trapped in the Stone Age.” Well, do you believe that there was a period in time called the Stone Age? What do you think when I say that there were the Age of the Prophets and the Age of the Kings and the bones and potteries that were found in the caves that are claimed to be from the Stone Age were just from people who somehow got disconnected from the ancient civilizations and beside that, there will always be foolish people all around these ages to believe that there was a Stone Age?

4. Do you know the teacher, the girl and their parents that you can just ignorantly depict them as the third world people? By the way, what world are you in? The dark matter world?

5. Can I blame you and other people that are with the same tune as your opinion in this matter if the marriage mentioned above fail? Why? Maybe because you are not being supportive to them and that make them in a state of under public pressure and scrutiny.

6. Don’t you agree that by marrying early enable the girl to learn and master the art of being a good and pious wife earlier than you do?

7. Why do you think the Prophet married Aisyah r.a. at her tender age?

P/s: Somebody posted this thread on a forum I used to follow (Darksiderg.com, under the column Banana Republic)

QUOTE

i just dont think its right to follow the preachings of someone who has sex with nine year old girls or takes his sons wife for his self because god told him to after he seen her naked.

END QUOTE

Here lies my answer to such accusation.
http://tinyslave.blogspot.com/2007/11/insulted.ht…

AgreeToDisagree
10 December 2010 – 12:23 am

You can’t have everything, so either choose :

(1) the marriage route which is a luxury in this day and age or

(2) the education and work route which most middle class types are forced to because they have no choice.

But nobody should have any lifestyle forced upon them or promoted as the only lifestyle as well. If future hubby is too poor to hire a maid (no more cleaning), a cook (no preperation of breakfast or meals) or a child minder (no more looking after of kids) or even a wet nurse (no more feeding, though most mothers probably would), then look at your family stature and decide if he is suitable for you. The above ‘chores’ should not be presented as a set of DEMANDS of marriage but are as optional as the young brides’ preference. Some might ENJOY the tasks and even refuse to let the hired help do the work. It’s not unknown and the sheer domesticity of ‘chores’ is the basis of happy marriages, depending on the personality of those being considered!

Affairs of the heart can always be fulfilled at any age, once biologically capable and with INFORMED CONSENT and knowledge of parents and community. Attachment to a husband is something that varies greatly between women, so early marriage is just another option and adds diversity to viable lifestyles that deserves the support of society as well.

Meanwhile the government could have a preparatory syllabus drawn up for young brides, and make sure the local Wanita branch of whatever party locally, is always watching over and constantly in communication with any young wives to make sure no abuses occur. This should make sure that all husbands (stop with the AGEISM which is no better than RACISM, old age is the breakdown of a body nothing else) treats young wives well and instills a sense of responsibility as well.

Writers should not make opinions on any lifestyle as if it were the only way to live. In truth, some girls would be very happy and fulfilled as a mother early in life, while others would not. So a study of the personality of the would-be bride should be done by parents on both sides and NEUTRAL matured people/professionals who do not advocate either life style as gospel truth the way this writer does.

Light demogoguery by Ms Ariff? She has chosen a path that she prefers or was swept into. The least the writer can do is to let others choose their own way of living without any pushing in any direction. That is the nature of free will and self determinism. Let all choose who to love, and when to marry, preferably after the above social checks and balances and opinion feedbacks have been made.

Steven
10 December 2010 – 12:16 am

Would statutory rape for minor below 16 years apply if the husband has sex with his so call wife.

Serious Shepherd
10 December 2010 – 12:09 am

Set of law A says:

-Killing foetuses is legal

-Adultery is legal if you and your partner are above 18 years old

-If one of the partners is under 18 then it is a statutory rape, even it is done through marriage

-If both are under 18 and commit adultery, then has to come out with something like Romeo and Juliet laws (let’s say both are 16)

Set of law B says:

-Killing foetuses is illegal

-Thou shalt not commit adultery regradless of age. Harsh punishment awaits. Khalwat raiders are always on active duty.

-It is legal for a guy above 18 to marry a girl under 18

If a community already adopts set of law B then there is no need for set of law A to be imposed on them. It’s like doing moral policing to a certain community who later complains on ‘imposing their moral values on others’.

anak_perelih
9 December 2010 – 6:01 pm

many 14 years old girls nowadays are having sex with their boyfriends… not a surprise…

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Not meaning to be critical but try this lullaby :

Hush, little baby, don’t say a word, Mama’s gonna buy you a mockingbird. (What does a baby need a mockingbird for? How about mixing with fellow babies at a crech?)
And if that mockingbird don’t sing, Mama’s gonna buy you a diamond ring. (Guess this is not ‘Career Woman’ Noreen’s bag? And yes thats really too early . . . )
etc. ends with :

And if that horse and cart fall down, Well you’ll still be the sweetest baby in town. (Horse and cart? Try singing about teats, cribs and bibs first ‘Mama’. ‘Mama’ in this song increasingly feels like a ‘Replicant’ from ‘Bladerunner’ (Ridley Scott 1982) not knowing or confounded by the difference between Tortoises and Turtles . . .

So guess what, the rest of the song here continues ‘gifting’ things that aren’t very useful to a baby or a child and ends with . . .  still be the sweetest baby in town . . . OMG the ‘Psycho’ scenario! The whole song appears to be geared towards not wanting baby to grow up or leave (horse and cart fall down . . . )?

Guess mothers even of that day were THAT clingy and selfish or didn’t know what a child liked. A mockingbird?!? Really? Does that come in a cage? How about something more cheerful and boisterous like so many songbirds in the wild which are free? And WHY must that dog be pre-named ‘Rover’? Baby or child might want to name their dog themselves, who knows baby or child prefers cats or no pets at all?

Good intentions without consultation of the receipient or consideration of the recipient’s preferences make for meaningless pontificative communication . . . Sigh, this lullaby is depressing and smothering – promise rewards for being quiet when QUESTIONING and DEBATING – AMENDING/APPENDING (to) FLAWED CONSTITUTIONS and BAD LAWS! So Noreen, how could anyone try to ‘imprint’ an article upon the readers like this much like the above lullaby does – imagine the negative subliminal effects such ‘lullabies’ might have on the subconscious! Freedom of choice is best and THAT covers APOSTASY and choice of sexuality, something Malaysia does not have. Noreen, taking away choice to get married young is no different than being forced to marry, and in this day and age, people love to stand out, no surprise that when everyone is studying those individualists who want to stand out will purposely get married and become mothers! You’re raining on an individualist Noreen, even as you yourself have become ‘Pro-Establishment’ (. . . probably, though perhaps I am too hopeful . . . ) without knowing so.

How about running for election on the below 3 items as an independent Noreen?

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

;and lower election deposits to 150.00 instead of 15,000.00, remove ALL road tolls (Freedom of Movement), remove AP (remove crony-capitalism), lower import taxes to DUTY FREE (remove state/retailer collusion to fleech consumers), end Forced Military Conscriptions (end rent seeking),

distribute unused land to the homeless (socialism but would you rather have 1% plutocrats with an angry 99% homeless, debt ridden, becoming gangs of thieves/robbers, or NGO ralliers running around, or distribute and aloow them to slowly build their homes into castles, contentedly smoking weed or poppy sap, chewing coca they grew in their own backyard for free and eating food they grew themselves?). Malaysia is a land of plenty, we do not need taxes, illegal immigrants being given free citizenships out of sheer racism or religiosity, and fees every step of the way right down to the apartheid and extreme religion. This is just step 1.

When the above all happens, then will new things appear for humanity – at least in Malaysia. If we can’t even do the above 3 for a start much less what I just listed, at least don’t try to ‘Lowest Common Denominatorise’ or ‘Streamline into Conformity’ individuals that have the strength to go against the mainstream.

ARTICLE 2

18-Year-Old Busted for “Selling Child Porn” of Herself – Author: Artefact – Date: Jun 28, 2010 23:20 JST

An 18-year-old girl has been arrested on child pornography charges for selling nude pictures of herself online.

The girl, an 18-year-old unemployed resident of Saitama, was arrested on charges of selling child pornography after she sold nude pictures of herself to men online using an Internet bulletin board.

Reportedly, from December of 2009 to April of 2010 she took a number of pictures of herself naked with her cellphone, in one case selling 33 to a pair of patrons for ¥12,000.

She identified customer bank accounts, allowing police to identify 147 customers who paid her a total of ¥1,070,000 ($12,000). It is not clear whether police will be pursuing charges against them.

She admits the charges, saying she used the money to pay her rent and food bills as she had left home.

18-year-olds, though still technically minors under Japanese law, are perfectly legal to portray pornographically in Japan – although unconfirmed, observers think the most likely explanation for her arrest is that some of the photographs were of her when she was still 17, though naturally this hardly constitutes “child pornography” in the eyes of most.

The arrest has proven contentious amongst Japanese – some have denounced it as a typical abuse of a bad law in order to terrorise minors into chastity, whilst others express disgust at police and mass media which insist on calling an 18-year-old a “shoujo” instead of a young woman. None can identify a victim involved in the crime.

Ironically, she would not have faced any charges had she just had sex with the men for money, or sold them her pantsu, even if she was a minor at the time – Japanese police never take legal action against “child” prostitutes, except apparently when they happen to take pictures of themselves.

Even more ironically, in most parts of Japan a schoolgirl can be procured for much less than the patrons mentioned paid for a few dirty snaps…

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Comment by Anonymous (@AgreeToDisagree being too lazy to fill inthe forms and Sankoku COmplex being too daft to include a comments system that allows posting Anonymously with personalised nicks . . . ) 09:08 01/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

Innocent-Guilty Questionaire Factors (Yes/No questions determine what charges can be brought on. treat each question as a Juror).

*Abstract Factors
1) Who initiated the first move (threw the first punch)? Was this ‘serial’ / ‘habitual’ in nature or due to ‘natural feelings of ‘love’?
2) Was act Consensual-Non-Coercive / Bribe-Pressure Induced (Did victim feel taken advantage of? Perpetrator’s view of advantage taking form could be created.)
3) Was the victim psychologically mature and intellectually capable of understanding relationships, has studied the subject sufficiently to make informed decisions? Psychological maturity could be tested to determine age for right to consent regardless of age.
4) Cultural norm/practice justification?

In this Sankaku example, factors 1, 2, 3 can be discounted. Factor 4 is debatable to a 50/50 degree.

*Material Factors
1) Onset of puberty another determining factor (Increases right based on uncontrollable chemical/mating instinct?)
2) Physical maturity another determining factor (Increases right based on ‘can carry to term with no significant risk to victim’ as in life threatening Caesarians being required as opposed to having capacity for natural birth, regardless of pregnancy or non-pregnancy after the act)
3) Is the victim a financial dependent? (Debatable : Financial dependent allowed/disallowed regardless of maturity AND if underage OR pre-pubescent may not be allowed to consent regardless of psychological maturity? Further – Can the law demand that Parental consent is required without trampling on self determinism and creating uproar among religious demographic? Is fiscal and statuary age based control of right of sexual association unconstitutional? (Leads to child labour laws AND psychological maturity issues / Application to pornograpy and media?)

In this Sankaku example, all 3 Factors can be discounted.

Verdict : 0.5 out of 7. Not guilty. Free her now with reparations pls., her ‘legal system unaffirmed’ human rights are being trampled on.

ARTICLE 3

NOW, even 6-year-old girls say they want to be ‘SEXY’ – Friday, 20 July 2012 18:22

Today in bleeeeeeeeuuuuuurrrrrrrrrgh, a new study in the journal Sex Roles suggests that girls as young as six years old are concerned with appearing “sexy.” As in, sexually attractive. To other people. With their bodies. In public. At the risk of getting all preachy about “the children,” I’d like to invite you all to join me in a rousing chorus of, “Holy shit!!! The chiiiiildreeeeeeen!!!”

Now, obviously “sexiness” doesn’t really mean anything to little kids, as much as they think they understand it. If my collection of wide-leg pants, head-bandannas, maroon clogs, and polyester potato sacks is any indication, I definitely didn’t get a handle on sexiness until I was like…24. At least. 25, maybe. Do I even know now? Whatever. I didn’t know what it was or how to do it, but I knew that I wanted it—because, in the grand scheme of things, the girls that had “it” were the girls that got what they wanted. Sexiness is the source of our power, society says. It’s what makes you a girl. So only, like, a baby snail in a coma would be naive enough to imagine that that attitude wouldn’t trickle down to the children. Kids are sponges. Which means that now kids are sexy sponges. Bleurgh.

Researchers presented 6- to 9-year-old girls with a series of paired paper dolls: one doll in a “sexy” outfit and the other in a trendy but full-coverage outfit.

Using a different set of dolls for each question, the researchers then asked each girl to choose the doll that: looked like herself, looked how she wanted to look, was the popular girl in school, she wanted to play with.

Across-the-board, girls chose the “sexy” doll most often. The results were significant in two categories: 68 percent of the girls said the doll looked how she wanted to look, and 72 percent said she was more popular than the non-sexy doll.

Girls who played sports chose the non-sexualized doll more often. Girls who both watched a lot of TV and had mothers with “self-objectifying tendencies” were more likely to choose the sexy doll. But on the flipside, girls who watched a lot of TV but received “maternal instruction during media viewing” (i.e. smart, attentive moms who made sure to call bullshit on bullshit) were somewhat more protected from self-sexualization. Media-consuming girls with religious mothers were similarly non-sexualized. However, perhaps most interestingly:

Girls who didn’t consume a lot of media but who had religious mothers were much more likely to say they wanted to look like the sexy doll. “This pattern of results may reflect a case of ‘forbidden fruit’ or reactance, whereby young girls who are overprotected from the perceived ills of media by highly religious parents … begin to idealize the forbidden due to their underexposure,” the authors wrote…”low media consumption is not a silver bullet” against early self-sexualization in girls.

And that gets directly to the heart of my feelings about this whole creep-show. The knee-jerk response is to blame Katy Perry, and Sydney Bristow, and Bratz dolls, and brokeback lady heroes. There’s no comic book lady-lawyer with a bionic briefcase whose superpower is competence and whose costume is a sensible pantsuit. That doesn’t exist. And that particular cultural flaw certainly doesn’t help little girls prioritize brains over butts. But it’s still just an intermediate symptom, not the cause.

Here’s the cause: Exactly one jillion years ago (historical accuracy courtesy of Lindy West, Lady Anthropologist), some genius decided that the human body was shameful. Especially the female human body. And the disgusting, shameful human body needed to be cloaked at all times, or else DOOM. Certain religious people (see above) are especially excited about this idea. Except simultaneously, some other genius decided that the female body is a precious, possessable commodity that can be sold and traded and hoarded like big floppy flesh-bucks. So that creates this crazy taboo where everyone is clamoring to see naked female bodies all the time, but they feel weird and guilty about it, which makes them mad at females who show their bodies too much, but also makes everyone worship females who show their bodies just enough (but also kind of hate them at the same time). And then women hate other women with “better” bodies, and little kids get the message that they’d better have the “right” kind of body and display it in the “right” way, or they’re screwed. It’s waaaaay more complicated than that, of course, but my point is that our entire relationship with human bodies is FUCKED.

There’s nothing objectively shameful about a body, which means there’s nothing objectively shameful about those outfits on the “sexy” paper dolls. (You never hear some badger mom complaining to Mole-ry Povich that her litter “dresses too sexy,” because that is just some weird shit that humans made up.) A “slutty” outfit is nothing but a different configuration of fabric. But because of the aforementioned taboo, and the commodification of the female body, and the way that certain religious folks combine those two things in the most fucked up and oppressive way possible, bodies mean everything. And 6-year-old girls internalize that and wind up “wanting” things that they don’t even understand: things that (supposedly) telegraph sexual desirability, things that (they think) will bolster their tiny ailing self-esteems. Things like, if this study is any indication, some shitty pleather bustier from the bargain bin at Lover’s Package.

And then we blame…pleather? Nope, sorry, this is our mess. You can froth about Barbies and shame Katy Perry all you want, religious mothers, but remember: you made Katy Perry.

-=jezebel.com

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Narrow minded display. That article is only true of a a certain demographic though the article itself creates bias in the readers who are not particularly familiar with or generally applying of critical thought, the voices mentioned above may be loud or even a majority but why should anyone care? There is also the set that wants to be in diapers and be breast fed by their mothers up to their tweens or worse, until ‘Psycho’ (1960 Alfred Hitchcock) scenarios occur but even that is their right though the murder was illegal and undesirable ( unless that was somehow subconsciously desired by Norman’s old mother). Other mothers sleep around, give birth and do not care about who does the adoption. Yet others collect as many orphans as they can to appear ‘cool’ and ‘kind’ while dripping evil on all other counts. This kids and sexiness thing is probably another fringe group who have parents that allow or foster or hacve been involved (gasp!) in this. Must be aware that generations ago, showing an ankle or even the neck was ‘sexy’. So who made the writer Ayatollah? People INCLUDING children will choose their preferences and regret the same or not later. Thats what being an individual is all about not biological age, though consent and free will of the child must be considered (i.e the child may want to continue family behaviour even if negative or may opt out the key issue is if the child has be taught to decide if said child wants to or not of said child’s free will).

The writer sounds really old and narrow minded here. There will always be burkha wearers even as there will be nudists. Or psychedelic organics smokers and those who avoid the same people and substances like plague. MINORITY OF ONE is a human right. It’s just that freedom of expression now FOR CHILDREN is much stronger than ever. Humanity is evolving even as fashionably outdated type memes will most certainly endure. Why rain on some kid’s ‘sexiness parade’? When people attempt to normalise anything or when everyone is a clone THEN that is more fightening. By sheer value in diversity, anyone should feel happy this is being expressed, though there should also be a open ended manual for children to study and be tested from, and discussion on what could or could not happen rather than NON-CONSENSUAL imprinting by parents, religions or society in a manner that subsumes a child’s free will which is what the 1st World and modern society or the ‘Minority of One’ concept (which is almost never practiced in law) is all about rather than the child’s own natural inclinations which must also be differentiated from stronger minds manipulating from the background in a form of ‘psychic dictatorship or ]’psychic subversion’ much like cults of personality that can demand all followers suicide and the group actually does that.

I.e. for a further example of free will – sex predators, which again some kids could actually want to ‘tame’ (or who knows HEAL with . . . , let your imagination run wild but this response at least comes from a Borticelli bod type lover . . . ), YES the fearlessness of the young is something that could change a sex predator brought up in older, less free willed times, the interactions are boundless – (and here we have ‘@jezebel’, yeah right – whats so ‘jezebel’ about snarking at kids wanting to be sexy? There will be some happy endings, some weird situations not too healthy, some though less – happy and even plain abusive where we must really step in but hardly on the above ‘want to be sexy’ example) – but in the history of mankind, probably most instances were not reported because internet media was not present. Stop nitpicking or being a control freak unless a particularly unpleasant incident happens. A below 10 kid loses their virginity. So? In some cases the kid themself might not even care and grow up into a career woman or get married as a mother without the psychosis that plagues those who come from strict prison-like chastity belt wearing convents or where parents beat children with belts and canes, or where even a slap or vicious scoldings could turn a child into some kind of hateful boss that enjoys bullying subordinates, or that loves to sabotage society by writing bad laws or even refusing to amend bad laws!

The frequency of ‘strange’ events like ‘kids wanting to be sexy’ is not increasing, more likely, we are just aware of the events because of new media and that society has chosen to live and let live rather than scream and spaz out in terror becuse these are not the values they are used to. Much like Burkha wearers and women forbidden to drive. They have a new voice and dare to express. So shaddup @jezebel, this dangerous potentially retaliatory, demogogue rousing musing bores the hell out of everyone. Ask around I’m very sure there are some who regret what not, but also some who would do eveything all over again, the point was to live for the moment, and the physical shell of the moment is but  a reflection of commitment to reality beyond the physical, which is why some these youth appear so feckless – there is nothing left out there except values and religions that threaten to leave one’s souls even emptier, little wonder they run straight into to subculture or even BDSM lot!

So yes if somehow things work out in some strange way, we the responsible adults (who do not demogogue) MUST let them as private individuals do what they want. Some may even choose suicide victim or abuser, but the soul knows when and why, and we cannot presume to act on or manipulate on any other soul’s behalf as if we had none of our own and wanted to interfere in  any other’s spiritual evolution. This is not pleasant or safe to say, BUT – if a victim gettting raped or a rapist getting away is part of that in some twisted manner, so that some sick pedophile gets a soul of their own (a soul for a rape event is WELL WORTH, and the attacker could go on to great things if we do not destroy them and they humannise fast enough to empathise with the victim etc..) or prevents the next Anti-Pope from being born, who knows what we could be causing if we prevented or pre-empted something else. Nature’s paths are many, and the mass killer who randomly kills Columbine style, could very well be killing some person who might give birth to someone who studies well as a nice scientist who ends up developing virulent poisons for some souless ‘Weyland-Yutani’  (refer to Aliens 1989 – Ridley Scott) type GMO/Genesplicing-toting corporation, or develops mind control technology that vicious minded dictators will destroy the free will of man with, or even brings black plague to the American continent etc..  . . . in the past? WHO ARE ANY TO DARE BLOCK FATE?

Here’s one mass murder that could have averted a Red Alert ‘Yuri’ (2001 EA Games) scenario where the world ends with all Humanity wiped out by mind control. Imagine if the below Holmes character got together with Biopolis Neuroscience Singapore and developed mind control technology that was inserted into BABIES brains at nanoscale or National Service Trainees on their 18th birthdays . . . aren’t we all glad Holmes flipped out instead of becoming a ‘Kroenen Nazi’ (Hellboy I – Guillermo del Toro 2004) under the employ of Nepotistic Dictator types?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176579/Dropout-PHD-student-massacre-12-cinema-screening.html

Perhaps an intergalactic war could be averted because a cockroach was not stepped on and some insect-like aliens were pleased into putting that planet into the lower priority conquest list (lets return after conquest of planets that stomp on bugs more than this one . . . ). How does one know? Perhaps because some pedophile killed in this life (for those who believe in rebirth) because in a past life that pedophile was killed by that same child who victimised them? Do we know how this works? Know past, present, and future? If some kid dresses sexy in some abstruse manner that keeps pedophiles distracted so that they do not become a sexually frustrated and trigger happy nuke fire control person (if I were a military chief of a country with nukes, I’d make very sure that Mr.Push-the-Red-Button is well laid and has all the poon and sex he wants ALL THE TIME), that would kill millions and irradiate the planet. This would require an adult services industry for the unmarried AND a legal system where multiple wives were legal and upfront so that both married and unmarried types will have access. The spin off benefit would be that 2nd Amendment Rights would be very safe to have as well – Mr.Redneck would be happy knowing he could kill you with a shot and thus does not feel the need to go on a killing spree, though genuine psychos could well still be present! Check the mindsets of the potential buyers, licence guns etc. but to prohibit is stupid and insulting to intelligence, which again could upset people into smuggling and using guns as often as they can in some oblique form of protest at lack of right to bear arms!

I’d say lets turn the whole world into a red light district that also has organic psychedelics bars, distribute land and wealth equally, so that everyone was relaxed and pleasantly distracted than being put into situations that cause, frustrate or necessitate them to want to bend reality even as they bend in reality’s wind. See the angriest religion? The most capitalist country? Guess how unqualified they are to be morally pure/fiscally sound but so willing to commit acts of terror/so bankrupt . . . And here we have @jezebel wanting to diss ‘kids trying to be sexy’. These PERSONS (do not labelise as kids) are doing something not so nice as viewed by most of us who do not like that sort of thing, but sure as hell if adults don’t understand (much like heteros will never understand some people are gay, or bisexual), adults better shut up and see whether the kids or insane or the pedos are taking our souls or saving the world first, before firing socialised abuse without any warning, much less killing shots (in collusion with an already insane psychiatric establishment) that destroys persons engaging in general discussions on ideas like ‘kids trying to be sexy’.

We are not party to these people, have no right to judge, but can and should study and ask why and how FIRST, yet not condemn or prevent except in cases of coercion or unwanted and abusive grooming. This really is the best way – Live and Let Live . . . because things happen for a reason and must happen. That person left unmurdered could result in the murder of millions more simply because the system took out or disabled the would be murderer first. The fact might be that a murder in a particular neighbourhood was necessary! Lots of very bad people who have not been punished in former lives, dare think to presume to let them escape when ‘Punishers Through Time’ appear on the scene? How close or well studied are any to say? There will indeed be signs and thieves of signs covering up for more on the run from justice . . . stay the judgment from a past life but punishment will still arrive.

Civilise or stop a murderer and another will arise to claim the prize, do the job . . .  Legion is many and reaches the ends of all civilisations and sentients in the Universe, Mankind cannot even manage their own planet’s ecology, preserve and maintain species diversiy or raise their lesser setient charges to a state of equality (try Cetaceans and Canines, Felines even Rodents) much less handle issues of equality and abuse in societies within Humanity on Earth . . .

‘God’ or ‘Nature’ created EVERYTHING, including the birthers, predators and cullers, quakers, Earthquakers of who and whatever. A cyle of life across time and dimensions needs predators or overpopulation will destroy or cause harm to societies of the prey. Thwart that immense will and unseen intent at severe cost to the Universe, to indulge the evil of one’s own fat or sanctimonious ego . . . This response is NOT  intended or to be twisted to be in favour of sex oriented paedophiles (FINALLY – the word paedophile is not necessarily sexual btw, just straightening out hegelian dialectic floating around the use and abuse of the word demogogue style.Declaring one’s own ‘paedophilia’ (not recommended these days until the above written sinks in) is not sexual deviancy – good understanding of vocabulary says so current trends have twisted the word out of context – LEARN about hegelian dialectic and apply against government!!!  . . . , so now think back to how people who dislike kids are really almost safer and less mentally exhaustive to be around in certain ways, yer lazy brains . . . bleeeeeeeeuuuuuurrrrrrrrrgh indeed.

QUOTE “ . . . anger a Foetal/Foetid, end the Universe . . . ” excerpt from “Events, Event Horizons and Relations (and Bendings in) To Time” (by @Post Millenial Avatar)