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3 Articles on : Indirect Events Non-Corporeal – Neurotech or Spirituality, Whys of Dog Hate/Killings, Spirituality or Neurotech, Gaddafi’s Last Warning to Humanity (though Gaddafi potentially would have used the same methods if Gaddafi had prior access) – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree – 21st April 2012

In 1% tricks and traps, neurolinguistics, Neurotech, Orwellian, soul, soul binding, soul theft, spiritual abuse, spirituality, subculture persecution, technofascism, Technology on April 21, 2012 at 7:53 am

ARTICLE 1

‘You killed my best friend.’ Horrific moment police shoot dead man’s dog after responding to 911 call at WRONG address – By Daily Mail Reporter PUBLISHED: 02:25 GMT, 17 April 2012

Audio footage hears owner say to police: ‘What are you doing? I live here’
Had been playing Frisbee with seven-year-old Cisco moments before
Officers had been called to domestic emergency nearby

The dramatic moment a policeman shoots dead a man’s beloved pet dog while responding to an emergency call at the wrong address has been released on the internet.

Footage from the patrol car’s dashboard camera captures the shot ring out milliseconds after the officer shouts: ‘Show me your hands, show me your hands. Get your dog.’

Owner Michael Paxton, 40, can be heard crying out: ‘Don’t shoot my dog. What are you doing, what did you shoot my dog for? What are you doing? I live here.’

Tragic: Michael Paxton,left, says the officer, who responded to the wrong address, startled his dog Cisco, right, which is why he started barking
Shocked: Footage from the police patrol car captures the sound of Michael Paxton’s dog Cisco being shot dead

Shocked: Footage from the police patrol car captures the sound of Michael Paxton’s dog Cisco being shot dead

‘I didn’t know you were here I was just taking him into the yard. Oh my god, I can’t believe you just shot my dog.

‘I need to give him to the vet. What are you doing here?,’ adding ‘thanks for shooting my best friend’, you killed my best friend’.

He then says: ‘Thanks for pulling a gun on me in my own driveway for no reason.’

Boy, 14, ‘was leader of brutal dog fighting ring that left three animals dead’

He says he was playing Frisbee with his seven-year-old Australian cattle dog, Cisco, at his home in Austin, Texas, when a police officer suddenly appeared, drew his weapon and ordered him to put his hands up.

It is understood the police were responding to a domestic abuse call of a man choking a woman and had unknowingly arrived at Paxton’s home after the 911 caller gave the wrong address.

Mr Paxton has launched a Facebook campaign called “Justice for Cisco” in to put pressure on Austin police over dog shooting’.

On the recording uploaded to YouTube, the police officer can be heard explaining his version of events moments after the shooting to a colleague at the scene.

He said: ‘I came round the corner. He [Paxton] walks from behind that tree, I tell him to show me his hands. Dog comes flying out of nowhere, dude, comes straight up at me, jumps at me and I popped it.’

The officer asks several times ‘do you have a girlfriend?’ before telling Mr Paxton the dog should have been on a leash.

Campaign: The Facebook page named Justice For Cisco, which was created yesterday, has had more than 26,000 likes and hundreds of messages of support, outrage and anger

The footage from the police car does not capture footage of the actual events, only the audio.

But since being uploaded yesterday, it has been viewed more than 16,000 times.

Mr Paxton yesterday described the moment he was confronted in his front yard by an officer with his gun drawn.

He said: ‘He had a Taser. He had pepper spray. I don’t understand why, in broad daylight, he pulled a gun on me. I wasn’t running. I wasn’t hiding,’ Paxton told ABCNews.com. ‘I was just saying, “I live here.” I was panicking. I was afraid for my life.’

‘While I was at gunpoint, my dog came from my backyard barking at the officer,’ Paxton wrote on the Facebook page dedicated to Cisco’s cause.

‘I yelled for the officer to not shoot my dog, that he will not bite, but the officer immediately shot and killed my dog right in front of me.’

The Facebook page named Justice For Cisco, which was created yesterday, has had more than 26,000 likes and hundreds of messages of support, outrage and anger.

One person named Todd Hariaczyi said: ‘I cannot begin to imagine your loss. I have had dogs my entire life, and I cannot fathom losing one in such a horrible manner.

‘I am disgusted by the officer’s actions–shoot now, ask later–and his attempt to blame you for the entire ordeal. It’s your property! Of course, your dog is on it. I will refrain from expressing how I feel about him because it’s nothing I can repeat here. I hope you get the justice you deserve.’

Another, named Nick Pound, added: ‘The officer needs to not only be fired, but charged like any other person who would shoot and kill an animal. Felony animal cruelty in most states carries up to 5 years in prison.’

Paxton said Cisco was harmless and had never bitten or attacked anybody before. ‘The only thing that has brought me comfort is the response and outpouring of emotion for him,’ he told ABCNews.com.

Shooter: The Austin Police Department said the officer, pictured, had felt threatened after the dog came at him and barked

‘I’m sure he heard the yelling. He’s a dog. This is his territory. He’s going to be territorial to some extent. To me, it’s pretty typical dog behavior. He’s not a viscious dog. He was a good boy. He was a real good boy.’

The Austin Police Department said the officer felt threatened after the dog charged at him and barked, leaving him with no alternative.

‘Officers have to do everything they can to protect themselves, up to and including the use of deadly force,’ Austin Police Cpl. Anthony Hipolito told ABCNews. com

‘It’s something that we don’t ever want to do. To shoot and kill an animal is very unfortunate and tragic. The officer is distraught and did not want to do it, but at the same time, he had to protect himself.’

Paxton’s neighbors Jesus Rivera and Maria Hernandez told the Digital Texan that they had been fighting and were the ones that the police officer meant to visit.

Here’s what other readers have said. Why not debate this issue live on our message boards.

The comments below have been moderated in advance.
Beautiful Blue Heeler. What a waste. Shame.

– Sarah, Australia, 19/4/2012 02:10
Rating   342

Horrible. Trigger happy thugs with badges. 16 seconds in as soon as the dog barks he murders it. No wonder why people don’t respect the police.

– Paul, Manc, 19/4/2012 01:32
Rating   627

The cop should count himself lucky that he wasn’t shot. Barging onto the property without a warrant, and being in the wrong place at that? I hope he gets the book, kitchen sink, and whatever else that can be lifted thrown at him. Disgusting.

– Ash, San Antonio, TX, 19/4/2012 01:17
Rating   500

He could have used pepper spray or a taser but instead he shot the innocent animal to death!! This thug of a cop needs to be fired ASAP! He is trying to spin this, and the dept says he Is distraught.. I don’t BUY it. He was caught saying he popped it. Shows he has no respect for life.

– Me, Virginia, USA, 19/4/2012 00:28
Rating   477

Wow, shocking that the cop shot the dog with so little warning (when the owner had zero chance to actually grab his dog), and then said “Why didn’t you grab your dog.” Everyone involved is lucky the owner reacted with such calm. I can imagine this might have turned out much worse if someone had shot my dog.

– Dave C, NYC, 18/4/2012 23:51
Rating   369

This officer and others police should be retrain. He should use the pepper spray and stunt gun. Do not doing sin in the job killing is a sin that sin will come to you one day and someone might kill you we call karma. Nowadays the polices use a lot of deadly force especialy American police. I like British polices and Thai polices the more professional.

– Aire, Detroit, Michigan, 18/4/2012 23:44
Rating   159

This cop is fortunate that he didn’t come into my yard and kill my dog, very fortunate indeed.

– Nirad, Tacoma,USA, 18/4/2012 23:30
Rating   342

how that department can just sit there defending this animal killer is BEYOND my way of thinking. this “man” should be ASHAMED of himself!! his job is to protect and serve and he did neither- scared of dogs, do we really feel safe with someone like That protecting us???

– Jess, Los Angeles, USA, 18/4/2012 23:27
Rating   282

Stupid cop, typical of the shoot first mentality that police have taken with the people that they are employed to protect. Fire the idiot or at least take away his gun till he learns what a real threat is. He gives a bad name to police.

– RGME, LA, CA USA, 18/4/2012 23:18
Rating   298

And I thought the UK police were bad but this one takes the biscuit. The Austin police can’t even employ ‘trained monkeys’ for law and order seeing what happened here. Sue them for every dollar and then some !!!

– Mike, Alicante, 18/4/2012 22:59

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Heres a ‘longshot’ spiritual theory (theory does not mean blind belief, this is a postulation not intended for the psyche establishment or dictator to threaten us thinkers (as opposed to POISONERS) by. Civilised discourse in a free speech respecting country is a democratic right – Malaysia is an economic-faith apartheid country which is very corrupt, with free speech being tolerated unless one goes shouting against ‘political personalities’ on the road by btw) all are welcome to corroborate and counter if inaccurate) based reading of the above. False flag report to kill a dog with. the caller was fake. The dog however was real. the reason for killing the dog was spiritual probably. Instead of keeping people in the dark about spiritual issues and hoping to take advantage of spiritual issues, how about educating about spiritual interactions between man and animal THEN making sure everyone is aware and acts accordingly (i.e. feeding the animal at correct times, walking the animal at correct times, or not allowing animals in certain neighbourhoods?) Educate, not keep in the dark. We did not build society to be sabotaged by people owning animals intent on ENSLAVING citizens (this is probably aided by ‘vaccinations’ to ‘deactivate’ or ‘demature’ or poison into oblivion those portions to prevent maturation of parts of the brain that affirm alpha ‘animal’ status among animals or humans for ‘easier to control populations – BOYCOTT vaccinations but do learn the precepts of – CIVILESSE OBLIGE (I penned this term!!! So wheres my linguistics prize . . . <JK>) – this will be an absolute necessity or society will tear itself apart with all those ‘alphas’ running about.

The modern human person is educated enough to understand strange spiritual concepts like – that ‘chakras’ may or may not follow animals or humans and can get mixed up. So reconsider the way these ‘chakra release’ operations are carried out. CIVILISATION means none of this spiritual barbarism (in this case the animal’s, though shooting would not be viable) and teach people about the why and whens of their supposed pets (slaves imho, there are methods of use for animals as CAGES for their own ‘loose’ chakras, NO ANIMAL CONSENTED, and this can be blamed on high density living conditions perhaps intentionally inflicted upon societies so that low density landed dwellers cam dominate high density landed types and hi-rise dwellers). This is why animals have their tails removed, are castrated or spayed (i.e. neutered) or have their ears ‘pricked’ or are subjected to inbreeding to remove the natural evolutionary instinct, or how human maids and slaves are intentionally killed to sequester their souls to ensure longevity of their former employers. (again postulations, but we all are aware society and the medical establishment are not s warm and fuzzy no?)

We are in fact enslaving several entire species (think Zoos and animals kept in isolation, livestock farming) that could evolve into our equals given a few hundred generations of fostering by humanity instead of this abuse. By these facts, humanity is NOT deserving of stewardship of this planet and needs to focus on SPIRITUAL Education syllabii for humanity with is entirely non-existent as of now and locally features elements of ‘unique’ (unwanted) abuse. There are consensual instances of the same sequestrations, which can be learnt from BDSM and ‘Gor’ culture, that have stabilized many theories and treatments on this issue, though sadly not in a proper educational or health oriented context but rather mostly sexual and entertainment (too often also abuse based) context. Would the WHO and UN prepare a ‘Spiritual Rights Charter of Sentient Lifeforms’ encompassing issues of Qi, Chakra and Ceremonial effects on subconscious that affects chakra as well? We already have intelligence to write such a text, and all kinds of spiritualists and aware persons would use their ‘gifts’ to ensure the rights of everyone including non-humans not yet evolved, are protected.

As of now we also already have the technology to grow the flesh of our favourite food animals, so there will be no more need of killing or waste via unwanted parts. The onus is upon the wealthy to focus on clab grown meat – THEN ensuring all othtr species are allowed to evolve in properly designated reserves.

All of the above does not preclude equal distribution of wealth and land WITH free choice in labour participation, free education, and free basic housing and staple food at least -WHILE ensuring complete equality with no element of apartheid and social disenfranchisement via bad or abusive laws. See below article, if not a neurotech based attack . . .

ARTICLE 2

Woman faces death penalty for witchcraft after ‘casting spell on 13-year-old shopper’ – PUBLISHED: 09:24 GMT, 19 April 2012 | UPDATED: 09:41 GMT, 19 April 2012

Daughter started acting abnormally, claims father
Saudi Arabia beheads sorcerers, says lawyer

Accused of witchcraft: A Sri Lankan woman faces being beheaded after allegedly casting a spell on a 13-year-old girl during a shopping trip in Saudi Arabia (file picture)

A Sri Lankan woman has been arrested on suspicion of casting a spell on a 13-year-old girl on a shopping trip in Saudi Arabia.

She may face the death penalty as the Middle Eastern country is known to behead convicted sorcerers.

Police spokesman Mesfir al-Juayed confirmed yesterday that details of the woman’s arrest published in local media were correct.

The daily Okaz reported that a Saudi man had complained his daughter had ‘suddenly started acting in an abnormal way and that happened after she came close to the Sri Lankan woman’ in a large shopping mall in the port city of Jeddah.

‘He reported her to the security forces, asking for her arrest and the specialised units dealt with the situation swiftly and succeeded in arresting her,’ Okaz said.

Saudi Arabia, a U.S. ally, is an absolute monarchy that has no written criminal code and where court rulings are based on judges’ interpretation of Islamic Sharia law.

Extraordinary discovery of 12th century abbot’s grave: 2012 technology could unmask his identity – and that of a ghost that roams the site

‘The punishment is always beheading for anyone found guilty of witchcraft,’ a Saudi lawyer and human rights activist, Waleed Abu al-Khair said.

Condemned: An executioner lines up his sword as he prepares to behead Abdul Hamid Bin Hussain Bin Moustafa al-Fakki for being a ‘sorcerer’ last year

In December, Amnesty International condemned the beheading of a woman in Saudi Arabia convicted on charges of ‘sorcery and witchcraft’ saying it underlined the urgent need to end executions in the kingdom.

Amnesty said the execution was the second of its kind last year.

A Sudanese national was beheaded in the Saudi city of Medina in September after being convicted on sorcery charges, according to the London-based group.

Comments :

People are so stupid it’s unreal!

– Whats it all about?, UK, 19/4/2012 23:39
Rating   80

Am I actually reading this????? In 2012???? Really?????

– Robford2000, The North, UK, 19/4/2012 23:14
Rating   93

Don’t all 13 year old girls “act in an abnormal way” ??? It’s called adolescence ! Damn idiots.

– tmas21, Surrey, 19/4/2012 22:47
Rating   90

Not all witches are bad. How do we know she’s a bad witch?

– Ben, London, 19/4/2012 22:02
Rating   9

Archaic thinking. Susan Leicestershire: I agree, the more we invent and discover the more we are returning to cave men or perhaps that’s the way it was supposed to happen all along, I’m hoping for 2012 because we really don’t deserve to be on this awesome planet.

– An Englishwoman, Newcastle UK/Tampa FL, 19/4/2012 20:32
Rating   18

Its currently the year 1425 in the Islamic calendar. So basically you have to adjust for this and realise they are in the middle ages then look back to how we were back then. Except they really should be moving forward more quickly given our experience.

– Paul Davis, York,UK, 19/4/2012 19:39
Rating   68

Now surely it was the girl trying to cast a spell by acting funny whilst a poor woman did nothing

– Sarah, Poole UK, 19/4/2012 18:52
Rating   63

I recently worked in Saudi Arabia for a well known British company. I had to sign a form stating that I would not partake in tarot card reading or any other ‘jiggerypokery’. I kid you not.

– Paul Davis, York,UK, 19/4/2012 18:49
Rating   99

Joe, North Carolina and Amused, Wales: What the hell are you talking about???

– my2cents, NC, USA, 19/4/2012 18:43
Rating   15

People are really stupid sometimes.

– Silvermist, Capo Beach, CA, 19/4/2012 18:28
Rating   43

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Satellite based neurotech can be used to CONTROL literally ANY person. Logically and conceivably, via particulate nano-size devices introduced in our food. Note Gaddafi’s rant on Nescafe and mind control. Perhaps even something as simple as coloidal gold which can get embedded in the brain to be later activated by ELFs and EMFs that can be used to ‘activate’ certain portions of the brain at a push of a button (brain is electrical, so activate the impulses in certain pre-recorded sequences – each person has unique electrical activity and sometime to record will be needed – you get a human marionette).

If spiritual, no harm occurred, the woman should be warned, and let off then watched at most if such a thing can be done, killing her is excessive. If neurotech, the Middle East needs to prohibit this sort of device from being used by citizens, even then killing this woman is still excessive. Perhaps a code of ethics should be applied upon all ‘sorcerors’ alongside proper education for non-sorcerors on how to protect/conduct themselves? If the way the child was controlled was neurotech based, then make all neurotech as illegal to own as drugs, neurotech can create assassins or cause ‘Columbine Killings’. Otherwise this is a false flag accusation to kill a political enemy or who knows a closet feminist (in patriarchial Islam, feminism is sort of an offense.).

ARTICLE 3

Now Gaddafi blames hallucinogenic pills mixed with Nescafe and bin Laden for uprisings… before ordering bloody hit on a mosque – by David Williams In London and Sam Greenhill In Benghazi – UPDATED: 10:40 GMT, 25 February 2011

Wealthy: Muammar Gaddafi has had 40 years to squirrel away his estimated £60bn fortune

Rant: Muammar Gaddafi followed up his bizarre speech from a bombed-out building two days ago, pictured, with a call to Libyan state TV blaming Bin Laden and hallucinogens for the uprising

Colonel Gaddafi was preparing last night for a blood-soaked final stand in Tripoli.

Thousands of hired fighters were massing on roads from the capital to join army units battling the uprising which had spread to within 30 miles of the dictator’s stronghold.

Fighting raged as Gaddafi made an extraordinary rambling speech on TV in which he compared himself to the Queen and blamed the revolt on Osama Bin Laden.

He claimed the protesters who have seized control of much of the east of the country he has ruled for 41 years were fuelled by milk and Nescafe spiked with hallucinogenic drugs.

In a bizarre message to protesters, he said: ‘You need to listen to your parents. If people disobey their parents they end up destroying the country.

‘The same as in Britain (where) for 57 years the Queen has been ruling. I have been in the same situation.’

He went on: ‘Bin Laden … this is the enemy who is manipulating the people. Do not be swayed by Bin Laden.’

Yesterday an unsubstantiated rumour that Gaddafi had been shot swept the oil markets.

CNBC reported the rumour this afternoon, claiming it was partially responsible for driving oil prices back down to $97 a barrel.

Oil had hit a high of $120 a barrel late yesterday afternoon, but settled at $97 on the rumour and on Saudi Arabia’s claim that it can counter any supply disruptions from Libya.

A U.S. official told CNBC that Washington has no reason to believe Gaddafi is dead.

There is no information on where the rumour came from and no news reports substantiating it. Reuters was also reporting the rumour as unconfirmed.

Gaddafi’s former long-time ally and justice minister Mustapha Abdeljalil predicted yesterday that the Libyan leader would follow in Adolf Hitler’s footsteps by killing himself rather than give up power.
Bemused: The presenter on Libyan state television listens in silence as Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi makes a statement during a telephone interview on Libyan state TV

Bemused: The presenter on Libyan state television listens in silence as Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi makes a statement during a telephone interview

Denial: Saif al Islam Gaddafi went on state TV to say the government had not launched airstrikes against Libyan cities and said the number of protesters killed had been exaggerated

‘Leave, leave’: Anti-Gaddafi protesters shout slogans in Benghazi, where they have rounded up and jailed mercenaries employed by Colonel Gaddafi to put down the protests
String him up: Effigies of Muammar Gaddafi and his son Seif are hung from a burnt state security building in Benghazi today

String him up: Effigies of Muammar Gaddafi and his son Seif are hung from a burnt state security building in Benghazi today

Mosque massacre: Ten protesters were killed by Gaddafi’s men in Zawiyah

Mr Abdeljalil, who resigned on Wednesday in protest at the bloody crackdown, said he expected Gaddafi to make good on his pledge to die on Libyan soil rather than slink into exile.

‘Gaddafi’s time is up,’ he said. ‘He is going to go like Hitler. He is going to commit suicide.’

As the death toll passed 2,000 with an estimated 300,000 refugees on the move, dozens more anti-government supporters were reported to have been killed and wounded in a series of counter-attacks yesterday by the army.

Dissident militias supported by defecting military units claimed to have the upper hand in a swathe stretching from the Egyptian border to the outskirts of Tripoli.

In the latest blow to the Libyan leader, a cousin who was one of his closest aides, Ahmed Gadhaf al-Dam, announced that he has defected to Egypt in protest against the regime’s bloody crackdown against the uprising.

He denounced what he called ‘grave violations to human rights and human and international laws’.

Many of those violations were said to be continuing in Tripoli, a city of some two million, where pro-Gaddafi militia have clamped down since the Libyan leader called on his supporters to take back the streets.

Residents say militia roam the main avenues, firing in the air, while neighbourhood groups have barricaded side streets trying to keep the fighters out.

At the same time, members of the feared internal security force run by Gaddafi’s brother-in-law, Abdullah Senussi, have launched raids on homes around the city.

A resident in the Ben Ashour district said vehicles full of armed men swept in on Wednesday night, broke into his neighbour’s home and dragged out a family friend as women in the house screamed. He said other similar raids had taken place yesterday in other districts.

In Zawiya, 30 miles west of Tripoli, an army unit attacked a mosque where regime opponents had been camped for days. The soldiers opened fire with automatic weapons and hit the minaret with an anti-aircraft gun. A doctor at a field clinic set up at the mosque said he saw ten bodies, shot in the head and chest, as well as around 150 wounded.

The witness said that a day earlier an envoy from Gaddafi had come to the city and warned protesters: ‘Either leave or you will see a massacre.’

Zawiya is a key city near an oil port and refineries. Despite the assault, thousands massed in the main Martyrs Square by the mosque, shouting ‘leave, leave’ to Gaddafi, the witness said. ‘People came to send a clear message: We are not afraid of death or your bullets.’
Enlarge   Libya Graphic Gaurdian.JPG

Libya in turmoil: Map shows the key battlegrounds, military bases, tribal regions and oil fields which provide half of Europe’s oil
GADDAFI’S JAIL: Citizens tour an an underground jail excavated at one of his palace compounds

Gadaffi’s jail: Citizens tour an underground jail excavated at one of his palace compounds

The palace and jail, in Benghazi, Libyai, was heavily damaged during the past week of fighting
I’M LIKE THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND, HE RAVED

YOUNG PROTESTERS
‘Their ages are 17. They give them pills at night. They put hallucinatory pills in their drinks, their milk, their Nescafe.’

‘They are criminals … is it logical that you let this phenomenon continue in any city? We do not see what is happening in Egypt and Tunisia (where governments were toppled) happening in Libya, ever!’

MORAL AUTHORITY
‘Those (in Egypt and Tunisia) are people needing their governments and they have demands, our power is in the hands of the people.

‘From a national, moral, ethical standpoint … they should stop. I have no authority coming from laws or decisions or anything else, I just have moral authority. I only have moral authority. I am like the Queen of England. I have jurisdictions.’

BIN LADEN
‘This is the enemy who is manipulating people. You people of Zawiyah (a city 40 miles west of Tripoli where fighting has been heavy), stop your children, take their weapons, bring them away from Bin Laden, the pills will kill them. You are the extension of the republic system, not Bin Laden. He is the criminal, catch him and present him to court. He is the one in charge of any murder or any disaster. Do not be swayed by Bin Laden.

‘Al Qaeda will not succeed in Zawiyah – those of Bin Laden, they are tricking your children. I cannot believe the country is being dragged down to this degree.’

PARENTS’ DUTY
‘The constitution is clear. Take their weapons. The fathers and the mothers and the brothers of people in Zawiyah are they backing this? Stop them (the protesters). Are they standing behind those people. What is this farce? What is happening in Zawiyah is a farce!

‘I wait from you people of Zawiyah to show that I see you in the right light. Zawiyah is the land of 1,000 martyrs who fought against the Italians and it is the mother of tribes. Zawiyah! Be what I expect of you.

‘Remember in the Iraq war, the United States and Britain said they had reason to intervene. Qaeda and the international terrorists work together … Saddam Hussein had a relationship to Qaeda … look what America did.’
Destruction: Image taken from amateur video shows Libyan opposition groups smashing up a red car in lawless Benghazi

Destruction: Image taken from amateur video shows Libyan opposition groups smashing up a red car in lawless Benghazi

Ablaze: Protesters set fire to a factory in downtown Benghazi

Nursed with care: A Libyan nurse treats a wounded man who was injured last week during the demo in Benghazi

Here’s what other readers have said. Why not debate this issue live on our message boards. The comments below have been moderated in advance.

There may well be an element of truth in some of this, so I wouldn’t dismiss everything that Col Gaddafi says as nonsense.

– David James, Everdon, United Kingdom, 25/2/2011 10:50
Rating   25

Gaddafi must have been watching our student “protests” and decide there was a link between England and Libya. . . . , He could be correct.

– Kaz Hodgson, Pompey, 25/2/2011 10:41
Rating   10

i thought bin laden was the cause of tumult in the middle east, too many bogie men

– Mo, Ealing, 25/2/2011 10:33
Rating   12

We should let the whole of the countries people move to the UK. We can then replace the population that left with the Brits and rebuild it. Plus we’d have the oil and the sunshine!

– Disley Titchbender -1st Class Geezer & 2nd Class Citizen, The City of Babel – Eldorado, 25/2/2011 10:32
Rating   23

Gaddaffi’s buddy and ‘BROTHER’ , Tony Bliar must be on yet another ‘secret’ mission to sell British arms and warmongering equipment to his ‘dear friend Gaddaffi’. Nice to see Cameron is following in Tony Bliar’s shoes, selling arms and protecting Bliar, Britain’s biggest Liar, protecting the Greedy Bankers, not the taxpayer, allowing corruption to rage the same as ever and being as arrogant as any COCKY-POODLE could be. Bliar is a worse War Criminal than Gaddaffi as he INVADED Iraq illegally and AGAINST the will of the British people. Cameron should stop protecting him and see Justice is done as it should be for Gaddaffi.

– George Ward, Harpenden, 25/2/2011 10:29
Rating   11

He’s running out of people to blame! It is rumoured that in his next ranting speech, he will accuse Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa and Po….!

– Andy, Frodsham, 25/2/2011 10:15
Rating   23

I have just had a cup of Nescafe! and you know what he’s right, I feel like heading to Libya to join the revolution. It’s amazing what Nescafe does to the mind. I think all oppressed people should drink Nescafe and how about the slogan ‘Nescafe sets you free’.

– X-20, London , England, 25/2/2011 10:13
Rating   6

This mad dog should have been put down years ago. Instead, he has been appeased and even feted by sycophantic politicians, mainly from the UK.

– Bob Baillie., Hedge End, Hampshire., 25/2/2011 10:12
Rating   5

“WHY is this front page news!? Everyone wants to know what exatly is going on with the NZ earthquake which is far more important then this rubbish, which has nothing to do with Britian! Let them sort out their own mess. – charlie, west sussex”… Charlie how about you stop talking nonsense. You have no clue what’s going on do you? With all respects to our fellow NZ’ders, earthquakes happen frequently and all that can be done now is send aid. However, the toppling of dictators who have a 40+ year reign does not happen that often! So that is why THIS IS NEWS and deserves to be on the front page. Charlie go back to sleep in your fairy fantasy land.

– Jim, London, 25/2/2011 10:11
Rating   5

Nice headline – ‘bin Laden’! I think we all would like to ‘bin’ this Mr Laden, whoever he is…

– Roger, England, 25/2/2011 10:06

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Said Al-Islam Gaddafi is awaiting his fate as of this date.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=266853

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3 Articles on Africa/African persons : Tuaregs gain sovereignty seek formalization, Apartheid state’s angry citizens have no heart for convenient scapegoat Africans stepping out of line, Food/Drought Crisis in Africa – reposted by @AgreeToDisagree – 8th April 2012

In Africa, ending starvation, Immigration, lack of focus, land sequestration, Oyango Obama, sovereignty, Starvation, Wealth distribution, Weather Asylum on April 7, 2012 at 5:51 pm

ARTICLE 1

Mali’s Tuaregs ‘ready’ for talks amid huge gains – Al Jazeera – April 2, 2012

Mali’s Tuaregs ‘ready’ for talks amid huge gainsIn just a few weeks, Tuareg rebels in Mali have managed to achieve what has eluded them for more than 40 years. They now control a vast desert area that stretches from Kidal in the east to the ancient city of Timbuktu to the west – including the garrison town of Gao. Now the rebels say they are ready to negotiate. This comes after coup leaders who seized power last month asked their West African neighbours to help them halt the offensive by the Tuaregs seeking to create a separate homeland in the north. Al Jazeera’s Hashem Ahelbarra reports from Bamako.

Rebel group proclaims “independence of Azawad” following gains in northern Mali, as Algerian consulate staff abducted. Last Modified: 06 Apr 2012 15:54

Tuareg rebels in northern Mali have proclaimed the “independence of Azawad” in a statement on their website and through a spokesperson in Paris.

“We solemnly proclaim the independence of Azawad as from today,” Mossa Ag Attaher said on Friday, adding that the rebels would respect “the borders with other states”.

The Tuareg have declared the city of Gao as the capital of their new country.

Mali has been gripped by instability, following a coup by army officers in the capital Bamako and advances by Tuareg fighters and other armed groups that have seen a string of northern towns fall under their control in the broadly triangular area of desert in northern Mali

The MNLA statement on Friday stressed the group’s “firm commitment to create the conditions for lasting peace [and] to initiate the institutional foundations for a state based on a democratic constitution for an independent Azawad”.

Declaration questioned

However, the move was immediately questioned by the Ansar Dine, an Islamist group which also joined the fight against Malian government forces, who claim to be against independence.

Tuareg rebels claim the Azawad region of northern Mali

“Our war is a holy war. It’s a legal war in the name of Islam. We are against rebellions,” Ansar Dine military chief Omar Hamaha said.

“We are against independence. We are against revolutions not in the name of Islam.”

He was speaking in a video exclusively obtained by the AFP news agency and France 2 television filmed after the Islamist group’s takeover of Timbuktu, where they have imposed Islamic law, forcing women to cover themselves and burning down bars.

Hamaha said they had “more than 120 prisoners” including thieves.

“We have tied them up and taken their weapons. We beat them well and it’s likely we will slit their throats,” he added, while it was not clear if this threat was aimed at all prisoners.

In the city of Gao, Ansar Dine kidnapped seven Algerian diplomats, according to witnesses and the Algerian foreign ministry.

Ag Attaher, speaking on behalf of the MNLA, called the kidnapping “deplorable”, adding that his group had been against that action but finally went along with the move so as to spare lives.

“We are a liberation movement and we support the principles and values of democracy,” he said.

“We distance ourselves completely from any Islamist movement and their fight for religious law.”

International condemnation

A series of international condemnations of the group’s “independence” declaration rolled out as bodies around the world discussed the announcement.

Algerian consulate workers abducted

A statement from the office of Jean Ping, the African Union’s commission chair, called the announcement “null and of no value whatsoever”.

“[Ping] calls on the international community as a whole to fully support this principled position of Africa,” it said.

France, Mali’s former colonial ruler, dismissed the declaration of independence, French defence minister Gerard Longuet said.

“A unilateral declaration of independence which is not recognised by African states would not have any meaning for us,” Longuet told the Reuters news agency.

Ahmed Ouyahia, Algeria’s prime minister, was quoted by France’s Le Monde newspaper as saying the neighbouring country would “never accept questioning Mali’s territorial integrity”.

The UK Foreign Office released a statement saying they had temporarily suspended all in-country services, including consular services, and withdrawn their staff from the embassy in Bamako.

Alessandra Giuffrida, an anthropologist in the African Studies Department at the School of Oriental and African Studies in the UK, psoke to Al Jazeera about the legality of creating an independent state for the Tuaregs.

“They are taking advantage of a new situation, which is the lack of a constitutional government in Bamako, which means the MNLA was able to claim, according to international law, independence, and this is a new fact which has never occurred before in the history of the Tuareg,” she said.

“According to international law experts, this actually gives the Tuareg some ground to fight legally for the independence of their state.”

Giuffrida said the reaction of the international community was important because “they have an interest in maintaining the status quo”.

“There is economic interest in the north of the country after the discovery of mineral resources,” she said.

‘Strange situation’

“The coup leaders were of the view that they would get more support from the people because of the failure of the military establishment to cope with the situation,” said Al Jazeera’s Hashem Ahelbarra, reporting from Bamako.

“But they suddenly found themselves in a strange situation – the coup leaders lost control of half of the country, and they’re now hoping for international support.”

The MNLA, which on Thursday said it had halted military operations as a result of their capture of the Azawad, called on the international community to recognise its independence.

“We completely accept the role and responsibility that behoves us to secure this territory,” Ag Attaher said. “We have ended a very important fight, that of liberation … now the biggest task commences.”

But a Malian military source told the AFP news agency that Ansar Dine leader Iyad Ag Ghaly wielded more power in the north, with the backing of alleged regional al-Qaeda fighters.

“From what we know, the MNLA is in charge of nothing at the moment … it is Iyad who is the strongest and he is with AQIM,” the source said, referring to al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

Salafist Flag

Witnesses told AFP that raiders had hoisted the black Salafist flag that has been the emblem of rebels who had overrun Gao, Timbuktu and other northern towns.

Amnesty International warned that north Mali was on the brink of a “major humanitarian disaster” while Oxfam and World Vision said crippling sanctions against the junta could have devastating consequences.

“All the food and medicine stored by major aid agencies has been looted and most of the aid workers have fled,” said Gaetan Mootoo, Amnesty International’s researcher on west Africa.

“The population is at imminent risk of severe food and medical shortages  that could lead to many casualties especially among women and children who are less able to fend for themselves.”

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Congrats to the Tuareg on gaining their own homeland! Heres what Tuaregs need to do now.

a) Allow any diplomats who wish to, to remain. All those who do not recognize sovereignty should be put on the next flight out.
b) Allow all citizens from dissenting nations to put up their properties for sale and then depart, or take an oath of citizenship
c) Contingents and military outposts at all legal borders to guard sovereignty.
d) appoint ambassador to UN based in New York.
e) cut diplomatic ties with all nations who refuse to recognize, disallow all nations which do not recogmize to enter the Tuareg nation

Most importantly :

f) form a government with formal posts acceptable to and perhaps with UN/NAM advisors invited to oversee the process
g) redistribute (and use GPS for conformation of land title positions and locations, equally all available land not owned by foreigners via Allodial Title to all Tuareg nomads so that any invasion of Tuarag will be considered against individual owners  who do not want ‘invasion and occupation’
h) adopt Tuareg as the national language and perhaps send delegations to the OIC, BRICS and NAM if UN representation is overwhelmingly against Tuareg sovereignty

If the Tuareg are peaceful and non-violent in all actions, respect existing foreign citizens as above, Tuareg Sovereignty even if recognized by a handful of states (BRICS being most important), the Tuareg can still function with the rest of the world while ignoring all ‘Western nations’ and even be armed by BRICS nations.

The following link, AFTER all the above items have been established, I will leave for the Tuareg to consider. Speak for Saif-Al-Islam Gaddafi who’s father committed much human rights abuses but armed the Tuareg and even declare the man a constitutional monarch with limited powers? Or leave Saif-Al-Islam Gaddafi to his own fate at the Hague? – http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=138298

Tuaregs will decide Saif-Al-Islam Gaddafi's fate . . .

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Another killing: RELA time bomb explodes – the buck stops with Najib and Hisham Featured – Written by  Mathias Gomes, Malaysia Chronicle – Monday, 02 April 2012 06:09

The brutal murder of an alleged Nigerian rapist, Onachie Martins Nwanko a student, by seven RELA paramilitary members in Kajang, Selangor was a time bomb waiting to explode.

These partially trained volunteers are a real menace especially to foreigners. Ask any foreigner and they will all have tales to tell, which sad to say, will be 99% truthful.

In recent years, there has been a five fold increase of this RELA force in Malaysia and suddenly today, we have 2.5 million volunteers in the country – of which about 20% alone are in Selangor.

These paramilitary can run down the police force any time with their sheer numbers, and yet how qualified are they, is a question that badly needs to be answered by the authorities.

The fact is, you only need to posses only a legal Malaysian Identity Card to be a RELA volunteer. Is this enough and are any background checks performed? The response from the authorities so far seems to be “No need lah, only like jaga-kereta boys, so why need background checks?”

7 vs 1 in the true spirit of RELA 1 Malaysia

So this means we have 2.5 million jaga-kereta boys in Malaysia who are empowered to rope in the ‘illegal foreigners’ we allowed into the country legally in the first place.

Even the so called rapist is a 35-year-old student from Nigeria. Which College actually enrolled him? Indeed, Malaysia seems to be becoming the world’s largest college-hub in the world, with schools in every nook and corner teaching almost every available subject under the sun. No wonder, it is easy passage into the country for moon lighters.

What did Onachie Martins do to deserve death as a penalty? According to news reports, he hugged and kissed and showed his private part to a cleaner on the 15th floor of a condominium in Kajang. The terrified cleaner alerted the building management who allegedly sent the RELA men to investigate. The cleaner ran towards the approaching RELA personnel and barely minutes later, the Nigerian came down to the ground floor as well.

So our RELA guys caught the Nigerian and beat him up before tying him and informing the police. When the police arrived, he was motionless and the police then arrested the 7 RELA men. Just imagine 7 men raining blows on one man and he dies. FOLKS, THIS IS RELA 1 MALAYSIA for you.

It was a huge shame, with the African community in the Kajang community protesting the death of their compatriot. As usual, the Umno-controlled press has reported it in such a way that it was the unruly Africans who staged a riot. Would not Malaysians do the same if a Malaysian was beaten to death for senseless reasons by hooligans dressed up in official uniforms by a banana-republic dictator-government?

The buck stops with the cousins

This is the time bomb that a lot of concerned Malaysian citizens have been warning Prime Minister Najib Razak’s government was waiting to happen. But did he and his cousin, the Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein, listen?

Of course not. Instead, it is during Najib’s tenure as PM and Hisham’s as Home Minister that there has been such a huge jump in RELA officers. Ad if they continue to turn a blind eye and deaf ear, more such bombs will go off, that’s for sure.

The RELA recruitment jump has prompted speculation that Umno, which is Malaysia’s biggest political party, is involved and it has evil thoughts about using RELA to do a whole spectrum of dirty deeds, especially in Selangor, when the 13th general elections are held.

Should not the Pakatan Rakyat opposition and not to mention Bersih, the electoral watchdog, do something about RELA before the power-crazed cousins and their Umno-BN coalition go completely out of control?

Can the BN government justify the 2.5 million and growing numbers of RELA force? Do we really need these people on top of the police to safeguard the people? The Opposition has been crying foul for years, accusing the government of using these members to carry out fraud and even to stir up violence in the coming general elections.

Something stinks and is a huge drain on national resources

The question here is, do the government and the police need to have such a huge block of poorly-trained volunteers to safeguard the country against illegal foreigners when other arms of the same government had legally allowed them entry in the first place?

Under the pretext of issuing block approval for the outsourcing of permits to dubious foreign workers, local recruiting agencies have in hand thousands of calling visas for these foreigners. In other words, we actually brought in these illegals immigrants and in the 6P programme, we further registered about 1.5 million of them. And then, to control them lest they get up to mischief, Najib and Hisham recruited 2.5 million RELA members to protect the rest of the country.

No wonder, the Opposition smells a rat and  Idris Jala – the minister in Najib’s department – has predicted bankruptcy for Malaysia by 2019.

Malaysia Chronicle

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As of this posting Malaysia still has not complied with or amended laws to be compliant with :

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism (Article 1 Human Rights Charter)
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy. (Article 18 Human Rights Charter)
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution. (Surah An Nisa 4:75)

When migrants arrive in Malaysia, they are unaware of the extreme corruption, also socio-political conditions here, and the extreme prejudice and racism backed by fundamentalist attitudes (not a great majority but this African happened to step out of line and these ‘society sharks’ were just waiting to take out their anger on someone) . . . who better than the ‘black man’ . . . MLK would have turned in his grave . . .

Could we have some of those high profile anti-racism politicos (perhaps a black Senator, heck send Obama’s Uncle along for good measure, that guy looks like he needs the opportunity and though this suggestion smacks of nepotism, a speech or 2 and a small retainer (not 750K funeral big) for a several month stint addressing RELA type groups in Malaysia wouldn’t hurt, seeing as from all reports ‘Uncle Onyango’ (pictured standing far left) isn’t doing very well and hardly is able to retire, might even get deported from USA?!? . . . ) who are African AND Muslim AND American to educate or address RELA type groups, familiarise them with black persons so that this will not occur again?) that accompanies the same. Waddya say President Hussein (Obama)?

Obama and Family

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‘We couldn’t even eat the seeds’: Drought affecting millions in Africa’s Sahel – 2012-04-05 05:01:00

UNICEF correspondent Chris Niles reports on Executive Director Anthony Lake’s visit to Chad highlighting the looming nutrition crisis in the Sahel. The emergency threatens over 1 million children with deadly malnutrition.

Ndjamena, Chad (CNN) — The Arabic nomads in central Chad always have moved from place to place, following the rains with their camels and cattle. But in that parched stretch of Africa, some nomads have stopped moving, saying the droughts now come too often.

‘We couldn’t even eat the seeds’: Drought affecting millions in Africa’s Sahel

Ndjamena, Chad (CNN) — The Arabic nomads in central Chad always have moved from place to place, following the rains with their camels and cattle. But in that parched stretch of Africa, some nomads have stopped moving, saying the droughts now come too often.

Chad is one of eight countries on the Sahel, a belt of arid land that stretches across Africa below the Sahara Desert. The region has always been prone to drought, but residents and aid workers say this year is the worst they’ve known.

The situation has prompted the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) to launch a global social media campaign to raise awareness about the region’s children, who are now in urgent need of food aid.

One of those children is an 18-month-old boy named Goni, who lies in a nutritional center, his hands bandaged so he doesn’t pull out the feeding tube that keeps him alive. His mother, Saidi Mohamed, sits next to him in despair.

“This year, I didn’t harvest anything. Even the seeds didn’t grow. We couldn’t even eat the seeds because everything was lost,” says Mohamed.

Like others at the center, Mohamed used to depend on money sent by relatives working in Libya — but when the revolution took place there last year, her family fled and the help disappeared. Now, she can’t afford food at the market because the prices have risen so high.

“I have some hope because my child is feeling better,” Mohamed said. “When he arrived, he couldn’t even open his eyes. (But) when he recovers fully, I will have no other option but to go back to our village.”

Across the Sahel, the crops have failed and hunger and malnutrition loom large. UNICEF says more than 10 million people are in danger of starving to death, and that 1 million children are at risk of malnutrition.

Halima Adoum says she had to watch her son die because he didn’t have enough to eat. After locusts and droughts destroyed her crops, she wasn’t able to pay for food.

Adoum resorted to feeding grass to her 4-year-old son Ahmed, who then died.

“When my son died, I was in shock. I was just in shock,” Adoum said.

She said she has nothing for her remaining four children. Her one thought is of getting by.

“Every day, I am just thinking, ‘How am I going to get food?’ Again and again, ‘How am I going to get food? How am I going to get food?'”

The crisis was set in motion last year with a lack of rains and drought, and it has grown worse because the drought has continued, UNICEF officials say.

With less food being grown, people are starting to sell their personal belongings and livestock so they get by in the coming weeks — but that doesn’t take care of their needs long-term, said UNICEF Executive Director Tony Lake, who spoke to CNN on a dry plain in Banda, south of Chad’s capital, Ndjamena.

Rising food prices are another problem. And Mali, another country in the Sahel, is coping with thousands of refugees after a military coup there last month.

Lake said it’s clear the region is on the threshold of a crisis and that now is the last chance to act.

“If you have an earthquake, or if you have a flood, you don’t have much in the way of advance warning — a little with a flood, none with an earthquake — so you have to respond as quickly as you can,” he said. “Here we know it’s coming. Here, there’s absolutely no excuse.”

UNICEF’s campaign, called #SahelNOW, asks users on Facebook, Twitter and other social media to post messages to spread word of the problem and raise funds for affected children.

Read more about the campaign

The fund hopes to raise $120 million to treat and feed the region’s children. At this point, UNICEF says it has about $30 million on hand.

In Chad alone, more than 6 million people have been affected by the crisis, with 3.5 million of them younger than 18. An estimated 127,300 children under age 5 are already suffering from severe acute malnutrition, UNICEF says.

The country also has the highest numbers of polio cases in Africa and is dealing with a meningitis outbreak, diseases that could complicate children’s needs amid the crisis, the organization says.

For more information about the situation in the Sahel and how UNICEF is involved, please visit: http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/sahel_62137.html

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10,000,000 for all drought stricken African nations (not just Chad alone, none of the geopolitical favouritism please . . . ), divided by 192 nations means 52,000 people per hosting nation. This could mean at 1 acre allotments, 52,000 people divided by 4 (each acre can support 4 very comfortably, less comfortable would be half an acre, rather uncomfortable would be a quarter acre) acres of land needed per hosting nation to be distributed FOC at 13020 acres per host nation. Throwing money at the problem will not work as YEARLY this shortage of REAL ‘aid’ can occur and no country can afford to do this, though to GIVE 13,020 acres of land is a PERMANENT solution. Giving LAND in farmable areas by the hosting nation is a permanent solution.

Giving people fish or merely teaching people to fish is never going to work, much like a degree that causes debt without jobs available means nothing no matter what country, and harms the now indebted young person, that above people need a FISH POND *TO FISH FROM* or land to farm on.

Or access to a society or climate that they can work or grow crops in, doing jobs that ACTUALLY produce REAL GOODS, not shuffle papers, push pens or count beans – all quite useless and a waste of effort. Any non-technical Education sectors are NOT goods producing jobs, and cannot in themselves contribute to an economy, much like corporate raiding or printing of useless fiat paper currency with lots of zeros amounts to no real wealth but inflation – fiat in fact being not even needed if barter paradigms are considered – are not properly accountable to citizens, can be printed and distributed in secret to cronies and between governments unaccounted for as access to records are NOT open and under ‘Official Secrets Act’ type laws which ensure opacity and non-transparency!

Freedom of Information Laws need to include these considerations of PUBLIC ACCESS to how much fiat is being printed, otherwise corruption between governments at the top level will doubtless occur (See note 1 below) , we would never guess how much ‘money’ (these are worthless scraps much like India was likely being BRIBED with recently by England but honestly turned down the ‘cash aid’ . . . http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096628/British-foreign-aid-India-tells-Britain-dont-need-peanuts-offer-us.html . . . those scraps of paper do not quantify wealth, England is drowning in public and external debt as of now from salaries of civil service that are increased many times more than GDP growth (salary increments cannot be higher than GDP growth otherwise the Private Sector will be destroyed by taaxpayer funded subsidies written into law – a vicious cycle ) . . . printing scraps of paper of course is easy so lets add a few zeros to ‘Monopoly Money’ hold flashy ‘World embracing (more like smothering)’ conferences with golden parachute over-paid Fat Cat bankers (who take bonuses from banks that have made no profit in the past 10 years – impoverishing the stockholders) full of monetised debt repackaged  as wealth, and generously ‘give aid’ . . . ). Try BARTER and REAL Goods. 90% of the world’s economies could well collapse as the (0.1 to 5% real value) stock market, parasite banking system and fiat money system (that includes reserve Currencies) which supposedly represent ‘wealth’ is an empty shell of lies.

Note 1 : Take Thaksin Shinawat / Lee Kuan Yew Telecoms USD$2.2 billion tax evasion case to cite an example . . . http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/world/asia/01thai.html – with the Lees ‘getting’ away with the offence internally in Singapore as there is no Opposition in Singapore to file suits and also because Singapore is a military base more than anything else to ‘Western interests’, Thailand of course could file law suit but a larger global ‘cartel’ issue renders any such law suits quite useless even as IMF itself only serves to bankrupt nations ‘helped’ . . .

In Bani Walid, Kadhafi loyalists thirst for revenge – by Imed Lamloum (AFP)

In Uncategorized on January 18, 2012 at 2:24 pm

BANI WALID, Libya — Members of Libya’s powerful Warfalla tribe say they are thirsting for revenge after their bastion Bani Walid was looted and pillaged by anti-Kadhafi fighters. “Tomorrow is another day. We will get our revenge sooner or later,” said a Warfalla tribesman, pointing to shelled and burnt-out buildings in the oasis town, southeast of Tripoli. Refusing to be filmed, and giving his name only as Suleiman, he said he fears the new regime’s fighters, who defeated Moamer Kadhafi’s beleaguered loyalists in Bani Walid two weeks ago after more than a month of fierce fighting. “We stopped fighting when we ran out of ammunition.

Then we secured a safe passage for the volunteers,” he said, referring to loyalists who had come from other regions. “Most of the town’s residents hid their weapons and stayed in their homes; others joined the rebels,” he added. Lingering tensions between supporters of the National Transitional Council and former Kadhafi strongholds are potentially one of the biggest problems facing Libya’s interim government. The point was highlighted in a Human Rights Watch report released on Sunday that accused NTC militias of revenge attacks on the displaced residents of Tawargha because of their alleged participation in atrocities committed by Kadhafi’s forces in the nearby town of Misrata. Jubilant NTC fighters entered Bani Walid on October 17, after weeks of fierce resistance, astonished by the sudden capitulation and disappearance of the pro-Kadhafi fighters.

The town was virtually empty. “When the thwar (revolutionary fighters) failed to find the Kadhafi brigades they had been expecting, they were furious. They shot at dogs, at houses, they looted and burned apartments and public buildings,” said Suleiman. “Now the whole town is angry. The thwar punished everyone, by destroying their homes, stealing their cars and killing their relatives,” he added, in a voice full of hatred and sadness. “Bani Walid is a tribal society. We don’t have foreigners here. There is only the Warfalla tribe and no one can govern us… We will act sooner or later, here and even in Tripoli,” he warned.

The Warfalla, Libya’s largest tribe with one million members, in a country of six to seven million, are divided into dozens of clans spread across the nation, with other strongholds in the eastern Cyrenaica region. Warfalla opposition towards the ousted despot, mainly in Cyrenaica, dates back to the 1990s, when dozens of army officers were rounded up, charged with conspiracy, and some executed. But Bani Walid’s inhabitants were staunch supporters of the Kadhafi regime. Now the town, just 170 kilometres (105 miles) from the capital, epitomises the problems the NTC must resolve, especially the reconciliation process it must undertake if it is to bring cohesion to the liberated but fragile nation.

Despite an air of desolation hanging over Bani Walid, efforts are underway to repair and rebuild. “But it is very difficult,” said Mohammed Ahmed, his hands covered in paint as he attempts to make his apartment inhabitable once again. He says gunbattles are still common between the residents and NTC fighters. Unlike in other Libyan cities, the red, black and green flag of “Free Libya” is barely visible, while there are signs of normal life resuming, but only very slowly. In the town centre, where volunteers sweep away the bullet cases and rubble, one young man, Al-Sahbi al-Warfalli, sells vegetables from an improvised stall. Speaking under his breath, he admits to fighting alongside the Kadhafi loyalists. “Yes, I fought against those thieves. It is a revolution of thieves. They destroyed everything, they stole everything,” he said. “Bani Walid paid the price for supporting Kadhafi. But we love him, and we are waiting for the sign to take up arms again,” he added. His cousin agrees. “We have defended our houses and our honour. We will avenge every person killed and every house raided,” he said.

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I’d suggest that the Warfalla tribesmen, if they love Gaddhafi so much, clearly define and barricade portions of Libya they still control and consider their own, and in a snub to the world of NATO invaders, crown Gaddafi’s remaining son Mutassim, King of that Warfalla clan and other Gadaffi friendly controlled regions claimed by themselves. Also severing diplomatic ties with all who refuse to acknowledge your sovereignty, though with a very strict adherence to peaceful ceasefire with the rest of Libya, this is the best revenge they can get – secession and formation of another sovereign state WITH a Gaddafi at the helm.

Do not try violence, it won’t work with the technology and heavy weapons behind them, try diplomacy instead via UN or NAM or even BRICS. Wrangle carefully enough and who knows Libya could reunite with the ‘State of Gadaffi’ (look at Monaco for example, or Lietchtenstien) in time to come. Still wondering though, was Gaddfi’s rant on nanotech particles to induce mind control in Nescafe type beverages true?!? Otherwise those purported murders and abuses by Gadaffi (until properly identified, documented and proven) are not too defensible !