ARTICLE 1
People the winner in Chinese debate, says Soi Lek – by Yow Hong Chieh – February 18, 2012
Lim (left) and Dr Chua greet each other warmly at the end of their debate. — Picture by Jack Ooi
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 18 — Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek has called his debate with DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng this evening a victory for the public, who got to hear views from both sides of the political divide.
The MCA president, whose hour-long debate in Mandarin with Lim was shown live on Astro, stressed that the public should not see the event as a “school debate” with winners and losers but a chance to better understand the two parties.
“The winner is the people, and not Lim Guan Eng or Chua Soi Lek, because they are the ones who know the true position of the parties,” he told reporters after the debate at the “Malaysian Chinese at the Political Crossroads” conference here.
Dr Chua hoped the debate held at Berjaya Times Square Hotel here would serve as starting point for similar events between the MCA and DAP in future, but said that it would be up to individual politicians to decide if they wanted to do so.
Lim also said today’s debate on the two-party system in Malaysia had benefited the people as such exchanges were part and parcel of a healthy democracy.
This was because debates helped to air advice and dissent, which is crucial to building consensus through a process of public consultation, he explained.
He wished to see other leaders from Barisan Nasional (BN) and Pakatan Rakyat (PR) take part in such debates, singling out Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak.
“We hope this small step will be followed by a big one, that is (a debate) between Datuk Seri Najib and opposition leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim,” Lim said, joking that the public would get bored if only he and Dr Chua debated each other.
Najib has baulked at several offers from Anwar to debate on policy issues, which the PKR de facto leader has said would let voters decide for themselves if the opposition pact’s plans for the country had merit.
The Umno president had previously demurred by saying debates were not necessary as political parties were more important than individuals in Malaysia’s parliamentary democracy.
Both Dr Chua and Lim said they would debate each other again soon in Bahasa Malaysia and English on another topic.
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If the below 3 items are not granted by either MCA or DAP, the people will not be the winner of everything no matter how many times DAP and MCA debate. We did not vote for MCA or DAP to debate, we voted for MCA or DAP to grant :
1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy.
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution.
Debate among yourselves for what? 3rd Force Chinese parties, are you ready tp trounce these 2 hegelian dialectic parties? As long as APARTHEID persists, the people (especially minorities or persecuted Malays who are not ‘Muslim enough’ – it is actually true that Malays wishing to counter the fundo mentality here in some quarters are depending on the Orang Asli, Indians and Chinese to ensure UNHCR Article 1 and by extension UNHCR Article 18 will be assured in Malaysia) are the loser. So end the APARTHEID before saying anyone won, it is the MPs who won, since they get to keep the salaries that taxpayers pay for. End APARTHEID and stop debating! File lawsuits. refer to the Reid Commission or the UNHCR Article 1. Contact the UN about apartheid. Contact the homelands India and China to send a Commissar to help MCA and DAP think clearly, it’s just equality not destruction of the Malay race we ask for DAP and MCA to do!
ARTICLE 2
No point addressing lies, says Guan Eng – by Shannon Teoh – February 19, 2012
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 19 — Lim Guan Eng dismissed today criticisms that he failed to reply to questions from the floor in yesterday’s debate with political rival Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek, saying he does not respond to lies.
The Penang chief minister told reporters in the island that he did not touch on whether the state government had increased local assessment fees; why DAP supported hudud; and if land was allocated to Chinese vernacular schools as the allegations made were untrue.
“Did we increase?” the DAP secretary general asked local Penang reporters. “Chua Soi Lek said we support hudud. We have already said many times we oppose hudud and that is why you don’t have it in Penang. You know and I know.”
“If you want to reply to lies, you will have no time to present your policies,” the Bagan MP said.
The highly anticipated debate saw Lim attacking Dr Chua’s MCA for being unable to stop graft within the Barisan Nasional (BN) coalition.
But the former health minister took DAP to task for being “a slave” to PAS, the Islamic party in the opposition Pakatan Rakyat (PR) pact.
The debate, themed “Chinese at a Crossroads. Is the 2 Party System Becoming a 2 Race System?” was also screened on Astro in Mandarin with Malay translation provided.
The floor largely backed a stern-looking Dr Chua whose opponent smiled throughout most of the debate despite enduring heavy fire from questions by the audience.
Lim added today that as the debate was organised by MCA, “eight or nine out of the 10 questions” were directed towards him instead of the MCA president.
“You get six minutes of questions but only three minutes to answer. Even Chua Soi Lek agreed there was no time. A debate should not be a forum to spew lies and personal attacks,” he said.
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No point addressing lies? Heres a huge lie in the making by an inwrd looking slip in the language by LGE. Waddya mean *in Penang* LGE? We are interested in the assurance of protection of all minorities in the whole of Malaysia. If DAP’s reach is only *in Penang* then MCA or any 3rd Force party has already won. LGE said *in Penang* there are minorities ALL over Malaysia. Is this how far DAP aspires for equality *in Penang*. A satrapy under the Lim Clan? That is why the 3rd Force or indie candidates will form the backbone of Malaysia’s minorties’ future.
ARTICLE 3
And now for the truth about Tee Keat: It’s a red herring! Impossible for non-Malay to be MB Featured – written by Jackson Ng (retired ?streetpounding? journalist), Malaysia Chronicle – Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:33
And now for the truth about Tee Keat: It’s a red herring! Impossible for non-Malay to be MB
I READ with amusement the Malaysia Chronicle (MC) report titled “Tee Keat to be the first ever Chinese ‘Mentri Besar’ of Selangor?”
At the point of writing, the report attracted 275 comments from MC readers, testimony of the interest and excitement over such an appointment coming true.
Also, at the same time, I have also yet to come across any news report of a response from Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak, who is also Selangor Barisan Nasional (BN) chairman, or Pandan MP Ong Tee Keat.
I also note the maturity of the majority of MC readers in expressing their disbelief of such an appointment being realised.
Red herring
Why is it unbelievable? Section 51 of the Selangor Constitution is the reason:
…no person shall be appointed to be Menteri Besar unless he is of the Malay Race and professes the Muslim Religion. So, is it a wonder that both Najib and Ong have yet to respond or any follow-up from the mainstream media?
It is just too unbelievable and too stupid to respond. It is obvious the speculation was generated as a red herring to lure Tee Keat out of Pandan where he had served as MP since January 1989 or 23 years.
The work of Tee Keat’s enemies – MCA is certain
Speculation is swirling on both sides of the political divide that Tee Keat, a former MCA president, will be made the first Chinese Mentri Besar or chief minister of Selangor, if the Umno-BN coalition manages to retake the state in the coming 13th general election.
It is clear the speculation is the work of people who don’t want Tee Keat to defend Pandan but to go for a state assembly nomination. Who are they? MCA is certain or perhaps Umno or both?
One thing is almost certain. After 23 years in politics, Tee Keat cannot be that stupid to take such bait when Section 51 of the Selangor Constitution is so clear on the appointment of a Mentri Besar.
It looks and more and more like Tee Keat is in the wrong coalition!
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We do not care who is the MB. It is more important to have :
1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy.
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution.
If the WHOLE cabinet and dewan were Malay and the above 3 items with a few other freedoms assured, Malaysia would be more perfect than it is with a Chinese lapdog in every MB seat but without the above 3 items.
ARTICLE 4
Bukit Aman storms ‘stubborn’ spa – by Aizat Sharif – Wednesday, February 15, 2012 – 14:57
NABBED: Foreign masseuses were arrested during a raid at a massage centre yesterday. The centre is believed have been operating body-to-body massage as an extra service for its client
KUALA LUMPUR: A health centre in Desa Hartamas must have a “stubborn streak” in it for continuing to operate illegally as a massage parlour despite being raided by state and district police several times last year.
On Monday night, the Federal anti-vice police turned up at its doors on the first floor of a shoplot in Jalan 20/70A at 10.45pm.
The raiding party, led by Chief Inspector Wiryanti Abdul Wahid, nabbed a local man suspected to be the operator and four foreign women.
Three customers, who were also detained, were released after their statements were recorded.
“The place, believed to be operating for the past six months, had been raided several times by the state and district police last year,” said Wiryanti.
She said from now on, police and City Hall would monitor the premises to ensure it would not revert to its illicit business.
She said the foreigners, an Indonesian and three Thai nationals, aged 20 to 30, did not possess any identification documents.
“We also found out the premises to be operating illegally and a local operator, in his 30s, was also detained. The masseuses are also believed to provide extra services, like ‘body-to-body’ massage and sex, for clients.” she said.
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This is getting tedious. Legalise the adult services outlet or districts and just make sure no Muslims are allowed to use the services. It is a human right for both the non-Muslim client and the sex worker. Malaysia cannot take away non-Muslim rights to a legalized adult industry without falling afoul of the UNHCR especially for outlets that stick strictly to non-Muslims.
ARTICLE 5
PAS Sacks Religious Teacher Who Joined PPP – 19 February 2012 00:19
KOTA BAHARU — The People’s Progressive Party (PPP) is disappointed over the Kelantan Government’s decision to sack a religious teacher after she and her husband joined the PPP in Pasir Puteh, four days ago.
PPP vice-president Nik Sapeia Nik Yusoff said the PAS action was unprofessional and was tantamount to practising political revenge, which did not reflect upon an Islamic-based party.
“I urge Kelantan Menteri Besar Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat to take this matter seriously.
“Barisan Nasional (BN) does not sack those who do not support the coalition. This is evidence of PAS despotism,” he told a media conference here on Saturday.
Eighty PAS members in Wakaf Village, Pasir Puteh, including the religious teacher, Siti Rokiah Mohd Zain, 53, quit the party and joined PPP.
Nik Sapeia said, after joining PPP, a PAS leader had informed Siti Rokiah that she was sacked from her position as religious teacher and not eligible to receive her monthly allowance of RM200.
The PAS’ high-handed decision has upset Siti Rokiah.
“I have been teaching Islam since 2004. I am not really concerned about the allowance, but this small amount was withdrawn because I joined the PPP,” she said.
Nevertheless, Nik Sapeia disclosed, PPP would help Siti Rokiah receive a similar allowance, beginning this month, and urged her to continue teaching the residents.
He also handed over RM1,200 to Siti Rokiah as six-month allowance.
(Bernama)
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After the string of successes in ethics, a very bad and unethical move by PAS. Firings must not be politically motivated and citizen choice of political party cannot be used as a weapon or to sideline citizens by. This is a democracy, not the jaguh kampung’s backyard. Firings can be done on meritocracy but this firing smacks of Theocracvy and politicised Islam. Islam is not to be sullied by politics. Reinstate the religious teacher but make sure Siti does not talk politics in religion class either.
ARTICLE 6
Billionaires Became Rich Because Of Our Policy – Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:12
KUALA LUMPUR — Malaysian billionaires became rich bacause of the country’s policy and stability, said Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak.
“I looked at (Friday’s) newspapers… the list of Malaysian billionaires. I studied each one of them. Maybe some in this room today. Every one of them became rich because of our policy,” he said when opening the one-day “Malaysian Chinese at the Political Crossroads” conference jointly organised by the Asian Strategy and Leadership Institute and the MCA think-tank, Insap, here yesterday.
Najib said these billionaires either hold concessions or were in the right place and at the right time.
He said that the billionaires benefited from the stability of Malaysia and the government would continue to ensure growth and create more and more opportunities.
According to Najib, the Malaysian Chinese are more entrepreneurial compared to the Bumiputeras and the government would continue to make Malaysia a better place to do business.
“Even if they don’t get concessions, they have to be in the right place and at the right time. They benefited from our policy, they benefited from the fact that we give stability to this country.
“We will continue to ensure that the nation will grow and will create more and more opportunities,” he said.
Najib also said that the government would continue to listen to the problems of the Malaysian Chinese.
“We will make sure there are more opportunities for them to advance in this country,” he added.
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Najib said these billionaires either hold (were selectively given) concessions or were in the right place (political families) and at the right time (political alliances currently in power). Thats not meritocracy, but political cronyism . . . Najib shouldn’t hire speech writers then talk as if he believes in the material he’s reading, a sense of doom for the country darkens the political scene when articles about statments like these appear. Does the Royal Collective of Malay rulers know that the nation of Malaysia’s helm is on autopilot? What IS Najib doing??? Probably still thinks hes the Defence Minister during dr.Evil’s time . . . end the apartheid at least if you can’t focus Najib, the country could at least attribute something worthwhile to your Premiership, the next generation of BN leaders looks very uninspiring overall especially if apartheid still cannot end . . . PM shows the ‘out of touch’, ”pre-scripted’ side of himself here . . .
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